What's going on fellas? Take a chill pill
> On 17 Sep 2018, at 4:33 PM, Daniel Kelly <mys...@danielkelly.me> wrote: > > Not sure what it's going to take to have you take an ethical route. But > saying shit like: > >> or an apology from the developers indicating that they >> really didn't know what had gotten into them, it's like they were >> possessed or something and they're really really sorry for the attacks >> that they've been carrying out, and won't do it again (etc. etc.), >> *then* i would feel that there was a safe environment in which to >> actually contribute. > > They NEVER attacked you, in fact, you have been attacking everyone else > saying shit like "they are possessed", "they attacked you", "your > contributions are not welcome" - you are just making shit up. You are a liar, > troll, and a spammer. Buzz-off. > > >> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 7:19 AM Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <l...@lkcl.net> >> wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 11:09 AM, 0xb100d <0...@protonmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Luke you are spamming (which is worse than trolling) >> > posting links to your crowdfunding page. >> >> ok, so i apologise: and at the same time i feel compelled to point >> out three fundamental assumptions that you've made. (1) you've >> assumed that it's a profit-maximising business (2) you've assumed that >> it was deliberate and intentional (3) you've assumed that i want >> people here to know about that ethical eco-conscious project. >> >> it was definitely not intentional. think about this: given the >> ferocity of the attacks and the "blaming" that's occurred, do you >> *really* imagine that i would want people here to even *know* about >> the project(s) that i'm actively working on? do you think i want >> their negativity directed at work that i'm doing? do you think i want >> to risk having them contact people from the project and go, "oh, yeah, >> that fucking moron that keeps on attacking our project, yeah he's a >> total dick, don't buy anything from him, for god's sake!!!!" >> >> ... yeah? >> >> also: it's an ethical eco-conscious project. i'm not legally >> permitted to make a profit on it (not permitted to be directly >> associated with a profit-maximising business) during the fulfilment of >> the campaign. >> >> so it most certainly is *not* my intent to have people here even >> *know* about that project. the problem is, i'm barely able to keep up >> with the messages, having been caught off-guard by the ferocity and >> quantity of peoples' responses (even after having unsubscribed), it's >> a ".sig" from gmail, which is often "elided" (hidden), and i forget to >> explicitly look for it and remove it. >> >> so, apologies. >> >> anyway. the Titanian's Code of Honour. let me think for a bit about >> what you suggest, out loud so-to-speak. do i want to start a "blog" >> (where i would need to spend time and resources evaluating whether and >> how to set one up that complies with the ethical criteria that i set), >> with the specific intent and purpose, spending my time and energy, to >> write something about the Titanian's Code of Honour for people on the >> mimblewimble project to read, posting it here at some point in the >> future for them to consider? >> >> let's consider what the consequences of that would be. after spending >> my personal time and energy, taking up my resources to do so when >> there was no offer of compensation or reward or incentive (i.e. >> causing *me* "harm"), chances are quite high that i would then be >> accused once again of "spamming links" (which would cause me "harm"), >> or "advertising" (again, "harm" to me), and given that the project >> leader and others have been so vocal in "blaming" me, i honestly and >> seriously doubt that it would be read, i.e. my time would have been >> wasted (no possibility of reward, therefore "harm" done to me by >> having my time and resources wasted). >> >> which is pretty much the definition of violating the Titanian's Code of >> Honour. >> >> so a simple thought experiment shows that to do what you suggested >> would in fact be highly unethical. in the current psychological >> climate of this project, there would actually be significant harm done >> *to me* by taking the action that you suggest. >> >> now, if on the other hand there had been an offer of financial >> compensation, or an apology from the developers indicating that they >> really didn't know what had gotten into them, it's like they were >> possessed or something and they're really really sorry for the attacks >> that they've been carrying out, and won't do it again (etc. etc.), >> *then* i would feel that there was a safe environment in which to >> actually contribute. >> >> [ i have to tell you: right now i feel *really* intimidated and >> deeply alarmed by the behaviour of people on this list, and in >> absolutely NO WAY encouraged to contribute. would you? ] >> >> so that alone should be a quite useful demonstration of how the >> Titanian's Code of Honour can be applied. >> >> l. >> >> -- >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~mimblewimble >> Post to : mimblewimble@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~mimblewimble >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~mimblewimble > Post to : mimblewimble@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~mimblewimble > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
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