[marxmail] Labor and Working class historians . . . .

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Re: [marxmail] Jack Rasmus: Trump's executive orders and possible coup strategy

Unlike Ford after Nixon, Biden would not be taking office with a Congress going for Trump's throat. In this case, the Democrats simply have to not go after Trump. This is so easily done because it's a position they've pretty much taken since his inauguration. What was done on the emoluments? O

Re: [marxmail] The Celestial Afterlife of Karl Marx | National Review

Probably misdated. 1890 is the year of its publication. See the Matxist Internet Archive. On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 10:52 PM wrote: > The author says; > Our contemporary Marxists are not as embarrassed by Marx’s racism and > anti-Semitism as they should be — or, indeed, even as embarrassed as some

Re: [marxmail] The Celestial Afterlife of Karl Marx | National Review

Right-wing intellectuals just aren't. Almost always, they're just not worth the time. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#289): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/289 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/76114853/21656 -=-=

Re: [marxmail] Jack Rasmus: Trump's executive orders and possible coup strategy

Biden has refused to say whether his administration will investigate Trump (which means it won't), but he also said he wouldn't interfere with other investigations and possible prosecutions. That doesn't mean he won't act if they indict Trump, of course . . . . . . . but all of this seems to reac

Re: [marxmail] Is the Band’s “The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down” really a pro-Confederate anthem?

Yeah, the night they drove old Dixie down was the night that Virgil Caine looked up to find himself up to his necks in bluecoats. He took the train to Richmond, it fell. Yeah, there was a date you can put on that. The day that the first Union soldiers streamed into what had been the Confederate

Re: [marxmail] Is the Band’s “The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down” really a pro-Confederate anthem?

The "best" that was taken is obviously his brother. On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 7:09 PM audradavid via groups.io wrote: > I still find it to be a whiney complaint about the destruction of > something that needed to be destroyed. > > What the fuck is "the very best"? > > David Berger > > > -=-=-=-=

Re: [marxmail] Is the Band’s “The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down” really a pro-Confederate anthem?

; is everything the Caine's had > > (I think, anyway ) > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 6:13 PM Mark Lause wrote: > >> The "best" that was taken is obviously his brother. >> >> >> > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You re

Re: [marxmail] Transitional Programme | A Transition to Nowhere | Prometheus

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Re: [marxmail] Is the Band’s “The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down” really a pro-Confederate anthem?

This does. No justice to the discussion this far and has now gotten to the point of mischaracherizations worthy of com IU c book fantasists. Count me out. On Sun, Aug 16, 2020, 12:13 AM wrote: > Good one. How about, "The night they drove old Hitler down"? I'm sure > there are people around tha

Re: [marxmail] Charlotta WHO?

They modify this claim by saying women on a "major party" ticket. Remember Belva Ann Lockwood on the Equal Rights ticket in several campaigns from 1884 on, and her old comrade and predecessor, "Mrs. Satan"--Victoria Woodhull in 1872. First on the same ticket. On Wed, Aug 19, 2020, 9:13 AM Alan Gi

Re: [marxmail] Left Unity?

I posted a graphic for the Hawkins-Walker campaign on my Fb page yesterday and, within hours, I was getting unfriended, blocked, etc. A union official told people I was actually a Republican, and someone I knew actually said that my supporting anybody but Biden would be "a crime against humanity."

Re: [marxmail] Left Unity

Yeah, Trump's different. Not the key point. The comparison is between the contending parties at the time of the election. So, yeah, Trump isn't Tom Dewey. . . . On the other hand, people who think that Trump is the only potentially authoritarian danger in this election gloss over the fact that

Re: [marxmail] America's best-known open fascist backs Biden

I'm sure there's an interesting backstory to this. But clearly anyone who's not supporting Biden will still be labeled a closet right-winger. :-) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#815): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/

Re: [marxmail] Richard Spencer supporting Biden

Spencer says that, at this point, Biden and his coalition (including a ton of rather right-wing Republicans) will be more "competent." That sounds like a quite straightforward pseudo-Prussian motive. :-) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/R

Re: [marxmail] About "Thoughts triggered by the 80th anniversary of Leon Trotsky’s assassination"

I thought I was fairly familiar with Marx's biography, but I sure can't remember ever encountering "a Marxist idea of what party-building is ". He was at the edges of a few very contradictory formations. Do you mean the German Social Democracy? I think Trotsky was familiar with it. Am I missing

Re: [marxmail] Kenosha Shooting: 17-Year-Old Kyle Rittenhouse Arrested In Connection With Shooting That Left 2 Dead, 1 Wounded – CBS Chicago

Rittenhouse was also present at the January Trump rally in Des Moines. https://thehill.com/homenews/news/513858-kenosha-shooting-suspect-attended-trump-rally-in-january-report Media coverage of the shootings have been rather smudged, implying that protesters may have also been armed, and referrin

Re: [marxmail] About "Thoughts triggered by the 80th anniversary of Leon Trotsky’s assassination"

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Re: [marxmail] NPR stumps for adventurism

I've had almost exactly the same experience over the early failures locally to even announce and publicize demonstration when they started. This was "too catch the police by surprise." My suggestions went denounced as the efforts of an old middle class white liberal boomer trying to throw cold wa

Re: [marxmail] NPR stumps for adventurism

It should be assumed that there are always provocateurs. The organizers have a political responsibility to make sure that anything such provocateurs might do can be used to recast the purpose of the demonstration--to make the people who responded to your call think twice before coming out next tim

Re: [marxmail] At what stage do United Frontists vs Trump pull the plug on Biden?

The question boils down to what ballot will most encourage the working class and its allies to rely on, cultivate, and exercise their independent power. The rest is just stale haggis. Whatever they put on the label, it's stale haggis. > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all m

Re: [marxmail] At what stage do United Frontists vs Trump pull the plug on Biden?

As to when the Democrats drank their version of the kool aid, I've addressed the unchallenged facts of this every election. It didn't come out of Carter but the defeat of George McGovern, something the DNC at the time preferred rather than to lose power within the party. Leaders of American politic

Re: [marxmail] At what stage do United Frontists vs Trump pull the plug on Biden?

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Re: [marxmail] At what stage do United Frontists vs Trump pull the plug on Biden?

Sawant did well but SAlt seems to have abandoned an entirely successful project for reasons that were never explained clearly . . . other than wanting to do other things. On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 10:07 AM Marv Gandall wrote: > John, I'd be interested, and I'm sure others would be too, in your vie

Re: [marxmail] Why did the Supreme Court - unanimously - enable Trump to stand?

This way of blocking Trump's reelection was doomed. Section 3 of the 14th Amendment had no teeth in it because it wasn't really effective at keeping "insurrectionist" from returning to office. The Confederate general whose troops burned part of the town I grew up in wound up the governor of the sta

[marxmail] Self-immolation at the Trump Trial

The authorities--and the media--claim that they don't know anything about the motives behind the self-immolation outside the start of Trump's trial. They're just saying that the fellow probably had some personal issues. (Ya think?) He was hoping to draw attention to something he saw as important

Re: [marxmail] Self-immolation at the Trump Trial

Alas! The notorious NY Times subscription linke. I'll check it out though. I did hear a general reference to this belief in "conspiracy theories," but it never ventured into specifics. On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 10:09 AM Glenn Kissack via groups.io wrote: > [image: 20fire-profile-top-01-vgbq-fac

Re: [marxmail] Self-immolation at the Trump Trial

Thanks for the article. It is minimally informative. Much of the country has--to one extent or another--figured out the two-party flim-flam. It is a big leap between recognizing that and setting yourself on fire. I didn't raise the issue because I expected a solid answer, at least not in the nea

Re: [marxmail] An Interview with Jill Stein

He comes close to saying that at different points, for example: https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-evangelical-christians-are-israels-best-friends/ But if anyone has a better source more specifically disparaging young American Jews, please share it. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links:

Re: [marxmail] to "Never Biden" voters: We need a plan

How is this not just another scare tactic to push people into voting for Biden? I don't think there's a lot of reliable evidence to indicate that Trump is headed to a victory, though I frankly concede that I don't understand how he could have defeated a garden gnome in 2016. For this reason, I th

Re: [marxmail] On Tuesday, Biden demonized the protesters as hate groups.

Yes, the Populists succumbed to racism in 1896, but they did so by largely folding themselves into the Democratic party--THE PARTY OF SLAVERY, SECESSION, AND SEGREGATION! Every time Democratic apologists try to appeal to a progressive legacy in the party, they wind up cherry-picking. :-) The Dem

Re: [marxmail] The Lesser Evil Gambit - CounterPunch

The assertion that a vote for A is actually a vote for B because it wasn't cast for C is just an excuse to wallow in the systemic mass hysteria of self-deluded hard cider partisanship currently fueled by all the BS that mass media can produce for us. Those on the left also enjoy a straight shot fro

Re: [marxmail] On Juneteenth, Freedom Came With Strings Attached

Juneteenth is celebrated for understandable reasons. But its existence strikes me as a rather sad sign where things were going to go in the Reconstruction. Texas slaves were actually emancipated with the other enslaved people in those areas in rebellion against the United States on January 1, 186

Re: [marxmail] Here is a survey of editorial comment from quarters that have been broadly supportive of Biden.

All of this is a media-generated panic. The first polls after the debate actually indicated that there might have been a slight bump up for Biden . . . not based on his performance but on the assholiness of the Orange Jesus. It's just too late to replace Biden. And it'd be pointless. The same lu

Re: [marxmail] email from list member re: "Never vote for a Democrat"

Nobody's saying there all the same. This is just the drunken drum major leading the partisan parade of straw men goose-stepping ahead of the float with the emperor modeling his new clothes. On Fri, Jul 5, 2024, 6:10 PM Charles Keener via groups.io wrote: > I am Green Party and don't say Biden a

Re: [marxmail] Drop Out Biden

What I don't understand is the big carfufle over something that means nothing. John is in California, which is going to Biden, so a vote for him is just a wasted throwaway that won't carry any weight at all as to the victory or defeat of Trump. The alternative would be to use the ballot to send a m

Re: [marxmail] Drop Out Biden

As the laws are, people with this kind of money have ways of making what they favor rather secretive. They are clearly divided. If th we y weren't, they'd have probably already picked a president for us. 😀 On Tue, Jul 9, 2024, 11:07 AM Michael Pugliese via groups.io wrote: > *Michael Meeropol* <

[marxmail] Thoughts on the West and Stein campaigns

A few thoughts here on the campaigns of West and Stein. 1. We need a real, militant independent party, not just one-shot protest votes. It might make people feel better to "speak truth to power," but the real question is seizing power. That means organizing, an engaged mass membership, a leadersh

Re: [marxmail] Thoughts on the West and Stein campaigns

ted officials of the > Republican Party were mostly former Whigs, like Lincoln, who were united > (loosely) under a new platform. > > I wonder if there are any studies of the formation of the Republican Party > from a Marxist perspective. > > SR > > On 07/10/2024 8:06 AM PD

Re: [marxmail] Thoughts on the West and Stein campaigns

successful insurgency unless it grows from mass movements in which people are voting with their lives 24/7 to defeat an inhuman order. For the present, we are capable of making the point that needs to be made. On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 1:34 PM Mark Lause via groups.io wrote: > You'll find som

Re: [marxmail] Thoughts on the West and Stein campaigns

I see the revolutionary core of it as the direct action activists engaged in undermining the security of slavery by aiding runaways. This started small, among mostly free blacks but it esclated to the point where you had groups like John Brown's, raiding into Missouri. There are analogies to late

Re: [marxmail] Split from the CPUSA? CPUSA replies

I suspected as much. Some sort of online alleged CPs were swapping officers positions a few years back. Of course, there are MAGA Communists who think Putin is a Communist, just like the Democrats regularly describe him. Trumpthink. It come from polluted water. On Tue, Jul 23, 2024, 6:20 PM Char

Re: [marxmail] Split from the CPUSA?

Are the Moonies doing entry work? On Fri, Jul 26, 2024, 11:16 AM Mark Baugher via groups.io wrote: > > > > On Jul 26, 2024, at 5:42 AM, workerpoet via groups.io earthlink@groups.io> wrote: > > > > The CPUSA split off from the Socialist Party back in 1919 over support > for the Bolshevic rev

Re: [marxmail] Don't support Jill Stein for president: a reply to Howie Hawkins

I really hesitated to pitchin into this again, because it's like arguing with someone coming to the door with a Bible or the Book of Mormon trying to save your soul. Still . . . Come election day, residents of most states will already know how their states are going to vote. Illinois will go D

Re: [marxmail] Don't support Jill Stein for president: a reply to Howie Hawkins

It's official DNC bullshit, and the math doesnt begin to sustain it. Ot was an excuse for having run a poor campaign and, having won any way, not having to backbone and brains to prevent its being stolen. On Fri, Aug 2, 2024, 5:04 PM Dennis Brasky via groups.io wrote: > On Fri, Aug 2, 2024 at 5:

Re: [marxmail] JD Vance and looming fascism

The media interest exaggerates the strength of Vance, etc., but they'e nothing particularly new. Opportunist politicians pandering to what they think will win them elections. I don't think Vance can tie his own shoes without an instruction manual to consult, an advisor to read it for him, and two

Re: [marxmail] Don't support Jill Stein for president: a reply to Howie Hawkins

There's plenty available from this list on why the Green Party is the way it is. The only way for any insurgent party movement to emerge in the U.S. is begin winning local victories . . . and to demonstrate that the voters get something out of those local victories. This is why the course of Sawan

Re: [marxmail] Can the Republicans steal the election?

The question as to whether an electoral decision is "tactical" misses the entire essence of the issue. "Tactical" to what purpose? To what end? What do you expect it to achieve? It seems evident right now that, barring some big surprises, the Trump house of cards is tumbling. That leaves the qu

Re: [marxmail] Many More than I predicted: C. West/M. Abdullah on ballot in 16 states

He's only on the ballot in six states. The campaign web page indicates the status is pending in another seven but it's been saying that for a long time. The West campaign doesn't even respond to emails. One can only conclude that ot fizzled quickly and too thoroughly to give any notice of it. On

Re: [marxmail] Many More than I predicted: C. West/M. Abdullah on ballot in 16 states

That's how I would read it, but I suspect they posted it while they were collecting signatures, because it's been saying it since, I think, early summer at the latest. On Wed, Aug 14, 2024, 3:40 PM Mark Baugher via groups.io wrote: > > > > On Aug 14, 2024, at 12

[marxmail] Review of my latest book--relevant to the current election

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Re: [marxmail] Re; All it says in Jill Stein's platform regarding Ukraine

Not to spring any surprises on anyone here, but Stein or West are going to be in no position to promulgate anything on Russia or Ukraine. On Sun, Aug 18, 2024 at 11:51 AM Duane Filan via groups.io wrote: > Dr Abe - "What Ukraine solidarity? Does this mean solidarity with the > Russian Ukrainian

Re: [marxmail] Forum assessing US 2024 elections

So, the basic divide is whether we vote Democratic or "ignore the the overt threat of fascism and MAGA." If we can't have a more honest discussion here, we're just wasting our time. On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 9:00 AM hari kumar via groups.io wrote: > Dear Anthony: I think your idea for such a for

Re: [marxmail] Why do so many workers live Trump?

There were studies back in 2016 indicating that the average Trump voter was worth somewhat more than the average Clinton voter. I suspect the skewered numbers in terms of race had much to do with that, but the ideas that workers are particularly inclined to Trump seems dubious. The demographics o

Re: [marxmail] Why do so many workers live Trump?

The flaws in the policies of FDR and Truman are not arguments for accepting them in the Clinton-Obama-Harris incarnation of the Democratic Party. They're apples and oranges . . . and actually rather rotten apples and moldy oranges at that. Both Build-back-better and negotiations over drug prices

Re: [marxmail] GOP operatives back Cornel West's candidacy in battleground states | AP News

I've heard this stuff about the West campaign (and Stein's) for months. We'll hear more of it. In and of itself, it doesn't necessarily tell us anything about the campaign. My last book (_Counterfeiting Labor's Voice_) talked about how Democrats (and Republicans) regularly infiltrated every major

Re: [marxmail] GOP operatives back Cornel West's candidacy in battleground states | AP News

No idea what on earth you could possibly base that suggestion on, Abraham. Certainly not anything I wrote. The point I made was that no independent candidate that gets any kind of following in a U.S. election can expect not to have one or other of the major parties or a faction thereof from trying

Re: [marxmail] GOP operatives back Cornel West's candidacy in battleground states | AP News

nce and the United Front that just won the > election. > > > > > > Dr abrahim > > > > > > > > > > *From:* marxmail@groups.io *On Behalf Of *Mark Lause > via groups.io > > > > No idea what on earth you could possibly base that suggest

Re: [marxmail] GOP operatives back Cornel West's candidacy in battleground states | AP News

Yes, but what does that do? The class criteria might suit European political parties, but what we have here are a corporate capitalist duopoly and a series on non-party one-shot protest candidates. (I'm not including RFK who was always just trying to slip into one or the other of them.) No sectio

Re: [marxmail] GOP operatives back Cornel West's candidacy in battleground states | AP News

On Marv's questions. (1) yes, given the electoral college, it only matters in swing states. My vote for Harris or Trump would not matter in Ohio which will go for Trump or in Illinois, where I now live which will go Democratic regardless of my vote. (2) Theoretically, yes. It did not happen on 2000

Re: [marxmail] GOP operatives back Cornel West's candidacy in battleground states | AP News

The Labour Party of the 1920s isn't the same as the Democratic Party of 2020s. I shouldn't have to spend a post pointing this out. :-) On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 8:38 PM Marv Gandall via groups.io wrote: > On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 03:28 PM, Charles Rachlis wrote: > > So why would Debs, Lenin and Trot

Re: [marxmail] Jill Stein, Cornel West: stalking horses for Trump, Putin and Assad, Part 1

If you actually believe #3, you seem to have lost your ability to count or handle numbers. The vast majority of Americans who regard themselves as "socialists" take your position. If you actually believe #2, you are a classic conspiracy theorist--not in the sense of believing there might be a cons

[marxmail] The Ghost of Roy Cohn

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Re: [marxmail] GOP operatives back Cornel West's candidacy in battleground states | AP News

No illusions, Marv. I think you are changing the subject without realizing it. That is, you seem to think that a working class party that doesn't advocate the overthrow of capitalism is a "bourgeois" party. To re-jump the century to get back to 2024 . . . Trump is the symptom of a disease that h

Re: [marxmail] GOP operatives back Cornel West's candidacy in battleground states | AP News

7;t recall Lenin's suggestion that we should support Woodrow Wilson on that basis. And, if so, Lenin would have been dead flat wrong. He would not have been the true heir of Lenin. :-) On Wed, Sep 4, 2024, 10:39 AM Marv Gandall via groups.io wrote: > On Wed, Sep 4, 2024 at 07:46 AM

[marxmail] interesting and humorous review of political history since the 1980s

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Re: [marxmail] GOP operatives back Cornel West's candidacy in battleground states | AP News

So you think that Lenin would have us support Harris . . . . :-) On Wed, Sep 4, 2024, 3:11 PM Marv Gandall via groups.io wrote: > Again, Mark, the Democrats only acquired the support of the AFL and CIO > unions from the 1930's, and it was only then that the CPUSA oriented to it > in much the sa

Re: [marxmail] GOP operatives back Cornel West's candidacy in battleground states | AP News

I have said repeatedly that they are different. God knows why since it doesn't register. Partisan politics is a sports team decision for most. When you move into the Left, it becomes a religious question . . . I do think we should celebrate the election with a brass band leading a parade of straw

Re: [marxmail] GOP operatives back Cornel West's candidacy in battleground states | AP News

That is an honest description of the similarities. A recognition of those similarities is essential to an honest evaluation,isn't it? You do not challenge the reality of those similarities but translate them into a denial of any differences, which they are not.. I don't need or want the final wo

Re: [marxmail] Will the Post-DNC Pivot on Palestine Hurt Harris?

Never take on face value what politicians might say in a campaign. Just like you can never take on face value what a government at war might say. On Fri, Sep 6, 2024, 12:17 PM Charles Keener via groups.io wrote: > > Since her speech at the DNC , Kamala > Harr

Re: [marxmail] Political Collapse: Lessons From Fallen Empires

Let me second the recommendation for the Fall of Civilizations. It is superb. On Sat, Sep 7, 2024 at 3:43 PM stevencolatrella via groups.io wrote: > Anyone here who doesn't know "The Fall of Civilizations" channel on > YouTube, it is arguably the best thing on the whole Internet. > > Great doc

Re: [marxmail] AOC, let’s drop the DNC talking points & have a real debate

Stein's rather noisy about Gaza, which I didn't know was in the U.S. A. Learn something new every day , I guess. On Sat, Sep 7, 2024 at 6:04 PM Avram Rips via groups.io wrote: > Not through Jill Stein basically for pennant occupancy of Ukraine by > Russia and certainly doesn’t care about the des

[marxmail] Just offered as Food for Thought (on the election, from a Facebook post)

The recent Biden-Harris embrace of the Republican positions on the border illustrate how the American political system works. The innate media predisposition to hype fear and conflicts (bigger audiences and more profits) massages everything to the right in reaction. It also caps a long train of R

Re: [marxmail] Just offered as Food for Thought (on the election, from a Facebook post)

Thanks, Dennis. On Sun, Sep 8, 2024 at 12:27 PM Dennis Brasky via groups.io wrote: > An excellent response Mark. I put it on my FB page! > > > On Sep 8, 2024, at 12:13 PM, Mark Lause via groups.io gmail@groups.io> wrote: > >  > The recent Biden-Harris embrace of

Re: [marxmail] Is Trump Building an Army of Modern Blackshirts? | The Nation

Brother Reimann acknowledges " that the present situation does not fit the Marxist formula for Bonapartism or fascism." Nevertheless, he then hallucinates a crime committed by "almost all socialists - Marxist or otherwise" in not "warning about the dangers of the fascist connected Trump and his Re

Re: [marxmail] Is Trump Building an Army of Modern Blackshirts? | The Nation

The fact is that the Democratic leadership also favors a restricted franchise and the exclusion of all but itself and the GOP. It's what they have been doing for decades, and they're showing no signs of changing it this year. The idea that its victory in the election will somehow open up politics i

Re: [marxmail] Remarkable Documents Lay Bare New York’s History of Slavery

Perhaps the most famous product of slavery in New York was Isabella Baumfree, born in the 1790s and grew up speaking Dutch in Ulster County, New York. She had to escape enslavement in 1826 and waged a long fight to get her children free. She became a follower of the self-described Prophet Robert M

Re: [marxmail] Post-mortems on the Sep 10 debate

That and the fact that the climate only came up because they were asked. And that at the end. As Jane Fonda pointed out last night, we can't afford another four years of inaction on this. On Wed, Sep 11, 2024, 9:31 AM hari kumar via groups.io wrote: > I did not watch it - A mix of I could not b

Re: [marxmail] "The Great Debate"

I'd be more interested in this discussion if there were any hope that a pragmatic approach would actually be addressed. Instead we get Marv's sock puppets and other sweeping generalizations that are innately ahistorical in that they ignore the necessity of addressing these questions in their spec

Re: [marxmail] "The Great Debate"

The Congressional ballot is a district where the seat is in play is not the same as presidential vote in a solid blue (or red) state. On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 3:14 PM Michael Meeropol via groups.io wrote: > I admit, I did that in Pennsylvania last time around and am sending > postcards this time

[marxmail] Green Red Podcast

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Re: [marxmail] "The Great Debate"

Marv deliberately failes to engage in any subtles necessary to address this subject honestly,. The fact is that Dubya's hack lawyer who wrote the justification for torture now endorses Harris. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/alberto-gonzales-kamala-harris-endorsement/ . . . and he joins Dick Cheney.

Re: [marxmail] "The Great Debate"

To throw a spanner in the works here, let's acknowledge that Trump is nothing but the symptom of the MAGA disease. If he is defeated, as I'm fairly sure he will be--and trounced at that--what will the new administration do to clear the loonies out of the Congress, nobble together something to prop

Re: [marxmail] "The Great Debate"

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[marxmail] Should Harris repudiate the support of war criminals like Cheney and practicing fascists like Gonzales?

Many of us agree with Democratic politicians that Trump should repudiate the support of David Duke and the worse of the MAGA morons for their putrid "extremist" rhetoric. The endorsements of Harris by Dick Cheney and Alberto Gonzales raises a question as to whether Harris should repudiate them be

Re: [marxmail] Colorblind Proletarian Brotherhood:,African Americans, American Indians,,and Racial Inclusivity in the,Oklahoma Socialist Party

At the close of this process, Seminole and African American residents participated disproportionately in the "Green Corn Rebellion" with which Oklahoma radicals greeted the U.S. entry into World War I and the announcement of conscription. IN turn, what the Socialists did in this regard built upon

Re: [marxmail] Movement For A People's Party - A Party For Us

I can't recall seeing ever seeing something like this at this point in a presidential campaign. Or the sort of open discussion about the nature of the Democratic Party. We have no investment in this particular game, and have had to make do with watching it from afar. I think it'll be useful and

Re: [marxmail] The Wages of Whiteness | by Hari Kunzru | The New York Review of Books

Indeed, this is the problem with all concepts cooked in the oven of academe. However well-intentioned, however accurately focused they start out, the more they are taken up and commercialized, the more the meaning will be translated into something useful to the power structure. Cheers, Mark L. -

Re: [marxmail] Movement For A People's Party - A Party For Us

The Greens are not a capitalist party--which is a matter of class not their stated platform. The class composition is pretty much what the old Socialist Workers Party used to be in the 1970s, disproportionately representing the more educated elements of the working class--probably a little more a

Re: [marxmail] Women and people of color make up the majority of the Trump coalition

Another important trick they've used on this is to give us a breakdown of who supports who by party. What does that mean? They don't check voter registrations. They just ask people "Are you a Democrat or a Republican?" People who like Trump will say Republican generally and those who don't will

Re: [marxmail] Black, Native American and Fighting for Recognition in Indian Country

I covered a lot of this in my book on _Race and Radicalism in the Union Army_. In a nutshell, African slavery existed under native peoples in the Indian Territory the way it did because the whites imposed it. The U.S. peopled the territory with Indian "nations" (particularly the Cherokee, Choctaw

Re: [marxmail] Division of Labor

We have to understand that where the future goes may not at all be up to us. My darkest fear for decades has been that the inevitable triumph of socialism might boil down to the last few survivors gathering in the ruins to share the last can of cat food. Between the pandemic and the wildfires, w

Re: [marxmail] Black, Native American and Fighting for Recognition in Indian Country

The subject of the article was the old indian Territory (present Oklahoma) and I was clear that the nature of slavery even there was difficult to generalize. On Sun, Sep 13, 2020, 7:24 AM Roger Kulp wrote: > > https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/how-native-american-slaveholder

Re: [marxmail] "How Trump is losing his base"

At this point, the key is really not a socialist labels or even winning elections and governing, but whether you build a membership based party. Without that, any of these other things are going to be meaningless or transient. With it, other problems will be favorably resolved. On Sun, Sep 13,

Re: [marxmail] Why can't all academics learn to write like John Bellamy Foster?

The real question: why cant academics become employed academics writing like that? On Sun, Sep 13, 2020, 10:32 PM Roger Kulp wrote: > John Bellamy Foster is my second favorite academic.In my opinion,he is > only topped by Gerald Horne. > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive a

Re: [marxmail] Movement For A People's Party - A Party For Us

Perhaps it's in the nature of an American civic culture steeped in the fetish for advertising labels, but it's worth remembering that a formation that does not call itself working class is not necessarily a capitalist party. Or that a self-designation as socialist in a society that hasn't much of

Re: [marxmail] Modertor's note

You know what "non-partisan" means, dont you? You seem to think it means something like "objective." It just means that it's not formally connected to either party. On Wed, Sep 16, 2020, 9:30 AM Carol Stokes wrote: > "The company behind the non-partisan news site RealClearPolitics has been >

Re: [marxmail] Why Won’t the US’s Largest Labor Federation Talk About a General Strike?

At this point, though, Trump's threat not to leave the White House if he loses would place a general strike on the table as part of getting the kind of lackluster corporate Democrat the AFL-CIO loves into the White House. Now that's a paradox that should blow their gaskets. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Re: [marxmail] presidential election: Roger Stone urges Trump to declare martial law if election stolen by Dems

Neither party has the kind of attention span for anything like that kind of a deal. The sharpest of them hardly think past the next election. On Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 7:36 PM Dayne Goodwin wrote: > I doubt there is any truth to a claim that there was a literal quid > pro quo between Republican and

Re: [marxmail] Photography and Labor in Marx's "Capital"

The first presidential candidate on a socialist ticket was a photographer, an old abolitionist named Simon Wing . The rolls of the First International and the early social democratic organizations in the U.S. also included a number of photographers. That always struck me as suggestive of somethin

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