On Sun, Mar 2, 2025 at 12:14 PM, Kristin Bayrd wrote:
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> Done and done.
Not really, as nothing has been done to reduce, much less minimize, much less
prevent the capitalists abilities, needs, to restart the war. Isn't that what
the Marxist obligation is? To reduce, minimize, prevent that re
On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 03:30 PM, workerpoet wrote:
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> Maybe you should research it beyond Wikipedia. Start with the Azov
> Battalions.
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Yes! As you wrote in another post, there are no good guys in this war.
It’s all well and good to debate everything that’s being debated in this
thread, bu
On Sun, Mar 2, 2025 at 11:31 AM, abraham Weizfeld PhD wrote:
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> Ukraine is a terrorist State and so is the Zionist State as well.
As opposed to "non-terrorist" states like Russia? Turkey? India?
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--"autonomy for Russian speakers and a defeat of NATO possible without an
equivalent revolution in Russia?
Is too late for the implementation of an Autonomous oblast in the Ukrainian
context since such Autonomy was denied by the transformation of Kyiv into a
centralized Nation-State. It is
On Thu, Feb 27, 2025 at 11:40 AM, David Walters wrote:
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> The part of the class struggle, in fact a combined and prerequisite for it
> is national liberation through the expulsion of foreign troops. While that
> occurs the class struggle in all its forms continues, unabated.
The reality, as opp
The part of the class struggle, in fact a combined and prerequisite for it is
national liberation through the expulsion of foreign troops. While that occurs
the class struggle in all its forms continues, unabated, at this point with the
bosses government in Kiev winning. The unions are back on t
What I don't get is the entire lack of class conscious perspective on the part
of both/either of the antagonists/proponents in this debate- like is anything
DW hopes for--"Ukraine liberating the eastern half of the country" possible
without a social revolution that deposes the current regime-- o
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even without the 55% of the Jewish People who were not taken into consideration
in anything.
Dr abraheim
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Abraham, the Russian invaders control about half of most of these Oblasts and
the Ukrainians control half or can't you read a map? The Ukrainians still
control almost 80% of the population of Kherson, Kharkiv, and Zaporizhzhia. The
Russian Imperialists haven't really moved anywhere in 3 months a
> On Feb 26, 2025, at 12:30, workerpoet via groups.io
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> Maybe you should research it beyond Wikipedia. Start with the Azov
> Battalions.
Workerpoet, you apparently didn't read the Wikipedia article in my post,
https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/35492, which has a section on t
Maybe you should research it beyond Wikipedia. Start with the Azov Battalions.
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> On Feb 26, 2025, at 09:43, workerpoet via groups.io
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> The Banderites that, with U.S. help, took over in Ukraine are fascists as
> well.
When did that happen workerpoet? From the reference that I got from chatGPT:
"During Ukraine's post-Soviet history, the far-right has remained
The Banderites that, with U.S. help, took over in Ukraine are fascists as well.
There are no good guys in this picture. Still even NATO's Jens Stoltneberg
admitted the invasion would not have occurred without the NATO push. I hope the
inter-fascist proxy war ends soon, though it looks like Trump
hi Mike
In your pamphlet "Putin's Poodles (my apologies to all dogs)" dated two
weeks before Putin's (second) invasion of Ukraine, did your apologies
include running dogs?
Back then you wrote, "Socialists have to oppose both sides in this
conflict.. their proxies in Ukraine"
Do you still believe
> On Feb 24, 2025, at 23:24, modulus via groups.io
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> The article does contain the infamous phrase that Lenin planted a "time bomb"
> in the form of the right of secession. Nonetheless, in its fashion, it also
> recognises the right to self-determination. I quote a bit more contex
For those interested, I have dealt with Putin’s essay titled “/On the
Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainians/” and the policy of the
Bolsheviks and Stalinists in chapter 5 and 6 in my pamphlet “/Putin’s
Poodles (Apologies to All Dogs)/”,
https://www.thecommunists.net/theory/nato-russia-con
On 25/02/2025 4:08, Mark Baugher wrote:
I didn't know it was from Putin and need the context. Was Putin referring to
the Russian annexation of the eastern Ukrainian provinces. I cannot tell. But
Putin has been disputing Lenin for some time now.
Right, I should have been clearer, sorry about
Why someone, calling himself marxist, defend and justify actions of a fascist,
Putin and his mafia state, is beyond me.
Obviously someone can call himself as he wants, but to be accepted as a marxist
in a marxist group is also beyond me.
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> On Feb 24, 2025, at 18:07, modulus via groups.io
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> The relevant part is at the end, where Putin states that when a people
> becomes conscious of its separateness that must be respected. That's
> self-determination, no?
I didn't know it was from Putin and need the context. Was
This not a serious response. Everyone of his comments on Ukraine not only
disrespect Ukraine and its people, but seeks to *subordinate* Ukraine to
Russia. The one above barely scratches the issue of Ukrainian
self-determination. And...he f'ing invaded Ukraine. So much for Putin's
"self-determin
On 25/02/2025 2:59, Mark Baugher wrote:
from their historical motherland.
Are you referring to the Russian Empire as the motherland?
Not me, I was quoting.
The relevant part is at the end, where Putin states that when a people
becomes conscious of its separateness that must be respected. Th
> On Feb 24, 2025, at 16:45, modulus via groups.io
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>> from their historical motherland.
Are you referring to the Russian Empire as the motherland?
Mark
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On 25/02/2025 1:34, David Walters via groups.io wrote:
Putin has written many times and never once mentioned the right
of self determination whatsoever.
Manifestly false. For example:
Of course, inside the USSR, borders between republics were never seen as state
borders; they were nominal wi
Abraham wrote:
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> As for the Ukrainian National Identity; that was recognized by Lenin ‘s
> Right to national self-determination, was it not. Putin even referred to
> this precedent to offset the accusation that the Russian Federation does
> not recognize Ukraine.
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Ha! This is a joke
This nationalist rant, soaked in delusions, reminds me of the Zionist
propagandists.
The first and evident contradiction here is first the claim that;
¨ In 2014, Russia invaded Ukraine anyway. ¨
Even while also stating that;
¨Ukrainians have fought for three years¨
which did not begin in 2014
The Reality of Ukraine - by Timothy Snyder
The divide in politics today is between unreality and reality. Those who seek
to rule the world blur human experience and smudge memory, making cooperation
and friendship laughable and unthinkable. Rather than possessors of truths, we
are to serve as l
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