In case David Walters had not noticed, the Russian advance through Donetsk and Lugansk have reached the borders of those provinces and stopped there. There is a fraction that has yet to be liberated from Kyiv yet, although these facts are proof of the respect for Ukrainian Right to Self-Determination. The problem being that Kyiv does not support the same Right for others like the Russian-speaking nationalities that had co-existed when Ukraine was a Confederation and not a Nation-State, as it is now.
The same holds for the Zionist State which claims to be a Jewish Nation-State, even without the 55% of the Jewish People who were not taken into consideration in anything. Dr abraheim From: marxmail@groups.io <marxmail@groups.io> On Behalf Of David Walters via groups.io Sent: Monday, February 24, 2025 7:34 PM To: marxmail@groups.io Subject: Re: [marxmail] The Reality of Ukraine Abraham wrote: As for the Ukrainian National Identity; that was recognized by Lenin ‘s Right to national self-determination, was it not. Putin even referred to this precedent to offset the accusation that the Russian Federation does not recognize Ukraine. �Ha! This is a joke. Yes Lenin did recognize the right of UKRAINE'S right to self-determination and in 1919 they reversed the previous Bolshevik government's attempt at Russification. Putin noted this to criticize Lenin, not to praise him. He BLAMES Lenin for inventing Ukraine. Putin has written many times and never once mentioned the right of self determination whatsoever. Abraham's attempt to amalgamate Putin and Lenin is as sad it is laughable. As for the People’s Autonomous Republics of Donetsk and Lugansk, there is not a word here. I addressed this years ago. Where have you been. Sudetenland anyone? The Germans in then Czechoslovakia also voted for Abschluss with Nazi Germany. So did Austria. The Bonapartist referendums were nonsensical since none but Crimea included the whole Oblasts. No campaigning against Russian Abschluss was allowed. Your absolutist view, for polemical reasons, of "Self-determination" is undermined by your false analogy with the Zionist state. David -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#35518): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/35518 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/111367768/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. #4 Do not exceed five posts a day. -=-=- Group Owner: marxmail+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/13617172/21656/1316126222/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
