Re: [mailop] Off-Topic - VMWare ESXI 7.0

> On Apr 15, 2024, at 16:40, Kevin A. McGrail via mailop > wrote: > > Hi All, > > We have four servers where we can't retrieve our free ESXi VMWare license > after Broadcom shut things down and they are in evaluation mode for about 30 > more days. > > Does any one have any advice? Is ther

Re: [mailop] Gmail users on mailing lists

> On Sep 24, 2021, at 12:49 AM, Gregory Heytings via mailop > wrote: > > > Apparently Gmail is now using very strict rules for replies sent to both the > mailing lists and the OP (aka Reply to all): > > to=<...>, relay=alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[142.251.9.27]:25, > delay=73156, delays

Re: [mailop] DMARC and pure SPF

> On Oct 4, 2021, at 3:24 AM, Slavko via mailop wrote: > > Signed PGP part > Hi, > > please i want to ask how to deal with pure SPF when DMARC is in use. I > understand how to deal with SPF within DMARC checks and i do not want to > diskuss this. > > But what if domain owner specify eg. -all

Re: [mailop] Google Postmaster Tools - No data since October 4th

> On Oct 13, 2021, at 12:11 PM, Alex Irimia via mailop > wrote: > > Hello all, > > Anyone here from Google who can unplug GPT and plug it back in? > It seems to have stopped working on October 4th. Alex, your post reminded me: I have *never* seen any data in my postmaster tools, FWIW, and g

Re: [mailop] IMAP and SMTP in the same or separated IPs?

I will say, as a data-point, that dayjob has had one customer that required us to use a CA for our SMTP server that’s on a whitelist-approved by a certain automaker industry consortium. To the point where when they decided they couldn’t communicate with a secure SSL cert (even though SSL was th

Re: [mailop] Reporting/detecting google groups spam

> On Oct 18, 2021, at 1:02 PM, Atro Tossavainen via mailop > wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 01:04:53PM -0700, Dan Mahoney (Gushi) via mailop > wrote: >> All, >> >> For years now I've been the target of a number of resumes from >> UAE-based google-groups. > > Have a look at these two thi

Re: [mailop] Bro, do you even VERP?

> On Nov 7, 2021, at 7:18 AM, Larry M. Smith via mailop > wrote: > > On 11/6/2021, Dan Mahoney (Gushi) via mailop wrote: >> All, >> I have email for my whole domain. I'm typically known to sign up for >> services with vendor@mydomain, so that when an email gets retired or leaked, >> I route

Re: [mailop] Gmail rejects multiple From:'s. Who else?

> On Dec 13, 2021, at 9:44 AM, Slavko via mailop wrote: > > Signed PGP part > Hi, > > Dňa Mon, 13 Dec 2021 18:19:07 +0100 Alessandro Vesely via mailop > napísal: > >> Is it customary to reject messages with multiple addresses in From:? >> Why? > > AFAIK, DMARC works with only one From: addr

Re: [mailop] Gmail rejects multiple From:'s. Who else?

> On Dec 13, 2021, at 1:55 PM, Vsevolod Stakhov via mailop > wrote: > > On 13/12/2021 17:19, Alessandro Vesely via mailop wrote: >> Hi, >> I assume everybody knows that RFC 5322 allows multiple mailboxes in the >> From: field. This feature existed in RFC822 already. I think it is to be >>

Re: [mailop] Privacy research spam apparently from a grad student at Princeton

We saw similar at the dayjob: To Whom It May Concern: My name is Mary Clark, and I am a resident of Roanoke, Virginia. I have a few questions about your process for responding to General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) data access requests: Would you process a GDPR data access request from m

Re: [mailop] Privacy research spam apparently from a grad student at Princeton

Which domain? Feel free to encode it out as need be. > On Dec 14, 2021, at 6:49 PM, John Levine via mailop wrote: > > It appears that Simon Arlott via mailop said: >> On 14/12/2021 18:53, John Levine via mailop wrote: >>> I think this is different and really is a botched survey from a grad >>

Re: [mailop] not a way to do abuse contacts, What am I supposed to do with abuse complaints on legit mail?

> On Jan 17, 2022, at 11:06 AM, John Levine via mailop > wrote: > > It appears that Grant Taylor via mailop said: >> What if we had something like an MX record published for the IP >> address(es) in reverse DNS / in-addr.arpa for >> ... and configure those MX records to route to a mail

Re: [mailop] sorbs DNS problems

> I collect related NS records and try to ping them from another IP > (different ISP), to be sure that they are not blocked by me nor by my > ISP, and results corresponds with my experiences: > >ns0.sorbs.net. 113.52.8.11 ping fail >ns2.sorbs.net. 87.106.246.125 ping fail >ns4.sorbs.ne

[mailop] Can someone from google/gmail contact me offlist?

Day Job (ISC.org) is having delivery issues to gmail due to our “very low” reputation. I call shenanigans. Mar 30 07:21:58 post postfix/smtp[75122]: D7B673AB008: to=, relay=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[2607:f8b0:400c:c14::1b]:25, delay=1.7, delays=0.31/0/0.85/0.52, dsn=5.7.1, status=bounced (ho

Re: [mailop] $GOOG

[Note that I'm replying to add a datapoint or two to this whole thread, rather than to just one person's comments. (The in-reply-to header has to be set to something, it might as well be the first post).] To add to a long (looong) thread, let me add something indecipherable, but it requires lo

[mailop] Deep dive into the dayjob's mail servers and SPF/DKIM tightening

Dayjob (you know who) has been doing DKIM/DMARC for a few years now, but at the hinting of some knowledgeable users on this list, there were a few discoveries we made. We use dmarcian, and I also dogfood the same service for my personal domain. They’ve been good to us and were involved in th

Re: [mailop] [E] $GOOG

> >> I am not >> familiar with the lawsuits, but the general solution to all reputation >> services, whether IP-reputation, consumer credit, or any other business >> that collects information about other subjects (the building block of >> surveillance capitalism!) is consent: if the subject does

Re: [mailop] SMTP line wrapping breaking DKIM signatures when forwarding

> On Apr 26, 2022, at 10:18 AM, Robert L Mathews via mailop > wrote: > > We've recently been getting more complaints about seemingly valid messages > that are rejected when we forward them. Tracking down the problem, it happens > when: > > 1. The message that we receive from a third party h

Re: [mailop] forwarding to gmail - problem

I've told any of my users to not forward to gmail instead, but rather to just use their pop-fetcher. Two problems I had there. 1) Not a goog issue, but Microsoft effectively discontinued this feature for hotmail, for some reason, so it's not universal advice. 2) Gmail started hitting MTU/ipv6

Re: [mailop] forwarding to gmail - problem

Two inline thoughts. > On Apr 30, 2022, at 4:48 PM, Ángel via mailop wrote: > > On 2022-04-29 at 10:28 -0700, Brandon Long wrote: >> There have been other reports on this list of Gmail requiring >> authenticated email. >> >> We don't require authenticated email... but we vastly prefer it, and >

Re: [mailop] forwarding to gmail - problem

> On May 6, 2022, at 8:14 AM, Luis E. Muñoz via mailop > wrote: > > On 6 May 2022, at 3:48, Dan Mahoney via mailop wrote: > >> If you’re already doing DKIM and SPF anyway, arc is another milter in the >> chain that gives you that benefit. (You want i

[mailop] Question for Google -- how am I able to be added to google groups without opting in?

All, I'm getting regular spam from google groups. (This week, it's in Arabic). Since it's google groups, any abuse reports would just be devnulled. Sender: -2040---_...@googlegroups.com List-Archive:

Re: [mailop] Question for Google -- how am I able to be added to google groups without opting in?

> On Jun 16, 2022, at 3:55 PM, Brandon Long via mailop > wrote: > > You should get a welcome message when a user direct subscribes you to a group > that should have an unsubscribe link in it. The welcome message part of the > flow that the group manager can set should be added to that message

Re: [mailop] Question for Google -- how am I able to be added to google groups without opting in?

> On Jun 18, 2022, at 12:59 AM, Brandon Long via mailop > wrote: > The opt-out link is https://groups.google.com/d/optout > This required adding freebsd@ as an alternate address to my profile. I *hope* that does it. > Does any other reporting method you

Re: [mailop] Question for Google -- how am I able to be added to google groups without opting in?

y situation but it seems closely related > to what this thread is about. Hopefully, sharing an EML will bring some light > on the issue. > > Best, > Cyril > > Le jeu. 16 juin 2022 à 17:59, Dan Mahoney via mailop a > écrit : > All, > > I'm getting regula

Re: [mailop] Google's Request to the FEC about Allowing Political Email to Bypass Spam Filtering

> On Jul 14, 2022, at 3:42 PM, Brandon Long via mailop > wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 10:28 AM Andrew C Aitchison via mailop > mailto:mailop@mailop.org>> wrote: > > On Sun, 10 Jul 2022, Anne Mitchell via mailop wrote: > >> On Jul 9, 2022, at 8:15 PM, Brett Schenker via mailop >>

Re: [mailop] So, Sendgrid / Zoom, planning on actually doing anything about webinar spams?

> On Jul 23, 2022, at 01:14, Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop > wrote: > > 23. Juli 2022 00:54, "Atro Tossavainen via mailop" > schrieb: > >> Er, I think you mean >> >> https://msbl.org/ebl.html > > Yeah, basically that, except that i'm thinking of a somewhat wider scope by > also covering

Re: [mailop] DMARC Stockholm syndrome, Reject vs spam folders

> On Sep 19, 2022, at 09:15, John Levine via mailop wrote: > > It appears that Jim Popovitch via mailop said: >> On Mon, 2022-09-19 at 17:07 +0200, Alessandro Vesely via mailop wrote: >>> >>> ARC is the authentication of choice in this case because, being devised for >>> this task, it is sup

Re: [mailop] two openssl (in OpenDKIM) questions for the masses

> On Sep 20, 2022, at 20:31, Philip Paeps via mailop wrote: > > On 2022-09-16 05:44:50 (+0800), Dan Mahoney (Gushi) via mailop wrote: >> I'm attempting to get a point release of OpenDKIM out that should include >> ecc key support (it's been in our develop branch for a while). >> >> In doing t

Re: [mailop] Postfix.org borked?

> On Nov 21, 2022, at 2:49 PM, Bill Cole via mailop wrote: > > On 2022-11-21 at 16:41:44 UTC-0500 (Mon, 21 Nov 2022 16:41:44 -0500) > Michael Orlitzky via mailop > is rumored to have said: > >> On Mon, 2022-11-21 at 11:12 -0800, Dan Mahoney (Gushi) via mailop >> wrote: >>> >>> ;; OPT PSEUDOS

Re: [mailop] OpenDMARC

> On Dec 29, 2022, at 20:38, Mark Foster via mailop wrote: > > Some reading that might be useful. > > https://github.com/vshymanskyy/StandWithUkraine/issues/135 > > https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/27/7zip_compression_tool/ > > https://pcper.com/2022/06/boycott-7-zip-because-its-not-on-gi

[mailop] Simple mailing list expander program for aliases files?

All, Sometimes a problem comes across your desk that you say “wait, how is this not solved yet?”. At the day job, we have a contact list for our customers that comes from our ticket system, and it’s stuffed into an alias file with :include:. The way postfix handles these aliases, is that it pr

Re: [mailop] New to mass mailings

> On May 8, 2023, at 8:45 PM, H via mailop wrote: > > On 05/08/2023 05:27 AM, Laura Atkins via mailop wrote: >> >> >>> On 8 May 2023, at 08:57, Dan Malm via mailop >>> wrote: >>> >>> On 5/6/23 17:28, H via mailop wrote: I am new to doing mass mailings to cus

Re: [mailop] sslv3 alert bad certificate and the fix.

> On Apr 6, 2025, at 11:14, John Levine via mailop wrote: > > It appears that Hal Murray via mailop said: >> -=-=-=-=-=- >> >> >> Lyle Giese said: >>> Let's Encrypt requires (according to documentation I have seen) Port 80 >>> TCP be in use for verification.� I have no other legit use for Po

[mailop] Emails sent by apple/testflight having invalid unsubscribe info

Hey there. Hopefully someone from Apple is on the list. I am getting regular notices for a product I opted in to beta test through their testflight, the Blink Terminal for iOS. The “unsubscribe” info for this email, causes my mail client to send a mail to r...@blink.sh —

Re: [mailop] Validity (return path blocklist)

> On Apr 22, 2025, at 07:14, Benoit Panizzon via mailop > wrote: > > Hi > > Had a Zoom Meeting with John today and learned he is the sales person, > not a tech. He does not know why we keep getting those reminders after > having reached an agreement, he can not stop them. > > He reckons this

Re: [mailop] GoDaddy / unsanctioned email policy changes

> On May 1, 2025, at 13:08, Alex Shakhov | SH Consulting via mailop > wrote: > > No, their UI doesn't support that. That's what I was told. > > On Thu, May 1, 2025 at 7:37 PM John R Levine wrote: > On Thu, 1 May 2025, Alex Shakhov | SH Consulting wrote: > > > Update: someone from the GoDadd

Re: [mailop] No more TLS client certificates from public CAs

Maybe I’m late to the game here, but is there code in OpenSSL or in Postfix, that will only let it either present, or accept, a cert that has the client EKU as a client certificate? (I mean, perhaps this is better asked on postfix-users, I’m sure there’s overlap between here and there). -Dan