> On Apr 22, 2025, at 07:14, Benoit Panizzon via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> Had a Zoom Meeting with John today and learned he is the sales person,
> not a tech. He does not know why we keep getting those reminders after
> having reached an agreement, he can not stop them.
> 
> He reckons this is most probably caused by our customers still
> accessing the lists from our caching DNS servers we had (unsuccessfully
> - still got rate limited after registration) registered with Validity.
> 
> So indeed, each customer wanting to use their services has to operate a
> dedicated DNS resolver on a distinguished public ip registered with
> validity which is directly sending queries to their DNS server and not
> using some uplink caching server like the ISP's caching server or
> google and others.

This is valid advice if you run a mailserver anyway.  I'm not taking any sides 
in Validity's sales or business practices, but if you're using ANY rbls at all, 
you're going to hit rate limiting if you use an upstream DNS server, and it can 
be tangly to debug because the blocking (which is sometimes via a REFUSED error 
code, and sometimes via just a weird PTR/A response) can ebb and flow so your 
internal monitoring may not see it.

And also, you want to be able to look at the logs/debugs on that DNS server, 
and pop a tcpdump if necessary.

This statement not at all sponsored by my day-job :)

-Dan

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