[mailop] Amusing and Convoluted Request

2024-08-26 Thread Rhys Ferris via mailop
Hello All, Thought you may enjoy this one. At my day job, as part of the internet mail team, I work with a section that handles bulk outbound. They don't handle the MTAs, just the servers that generate that mail and pass it to our MTAs. They only just recently finally implemented proper unsubs

Re: [mailop] Amusing and Convoluted Request

2024-08-26 Thread Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. via mailop
> I check the logs to find the user it was sent to based on the message ID > since the ISP helpfully removes it, and forward that to the bulk team so they > can remove the user from the database. Surely, instead of "so they can remove the user from the database" you meant to say "so we can c

Re: [mailop] Amusing and Convoluted Request

2024-08-26 Thread Michael Irvine via mailop
Now this gave me a chuckle, but sadly is commonplace. I have been in IT for about 20 years, and I still find those that will ask requests that are just plain wrong. Sadly, most of these users are in a position of policy/decision making (C-Suite & Directors). Thanks,   Michael Irvine -Ori

Re: [mailop] Amusing and Convoluted Request

2024-08-26 Thread John Levine via mailop
It appears that Rhys Ferris via mailop said: >Recently, having finally gotten on board with unsubscribe headers, but >still getting some Spam complaints from some ISPs, our bulk department >asked if we could please redirect the inbound spam complaints back to >the ISP to ask the ISP to reach ou

Re: [mailop] Amusing and Convoluted Request

2024-08-26 Thread Anthony Howe via mailop
On 2024-08-26 16:11, John Levine via mailop wrote: It appears that Rhys Ferris via mailop said: Recently, having finally gotten on board with unsubscribe headers, but still getting some Spam complaints from some ISPs, our bulk department asked if we could please redirect the inbound spam compla

Re: [mailop] Amusing and Convoluted Request

2024-08-26 Thread Michael Rathbun via mailop
On 26 Aug 2024 16:11:30 -0400, John Levine via mailop wrote: >This strikes me as yet another aspect of BMS, Bad Marketer Syndrome, the >totally unwarannted belief that the entire world wants to hear what you >have to say. All the way back to '95, with those SoundCity guys in Altoona. The wisdom

Re: [mailop] Amusing and Convoluted Request

2024-08-26 Thread Jay Hennigan via mailop
On 8/26/24 08:49, Rhys Ferris via mailop wrote: Hello All, Thought you may enjoy this one. At my day job, as part of the internet mail team, I work with a section that handles bulk outbound. [snip] [W]e've always had the following process for Spam Complaints: our NOC has the published addre

[mailop] Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-26 Thread Bryan Holloway via mailop
... if there's anyone from Google Mail lurking, I have a customer trying to get back into their account, and there's a back-up recovery e-mail ready and waiting, but the usual g-mail processes just don't seem to want to utilize it. The password is correct, but it insists on verification from t

Re: [mailop] Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-26 Thread Michelle Sullivan via mailop
Good luck… I’ve had the same issue for the last 7 years. Michelle Sullivan http://www.mhix.org/ If we don't find a way out of this soon, I'm gonna lose it. Lose it... It means go crazy, nuts, insane, bonzo, no longer in possession of ones faculties, three fries short of a Happy Meal, wacko! > O

Re: [mailop] Super dumb gmail request ...

2024-08-26 Thread Viktor Dukhovni via mailop
On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 06:18:01AM +0200, Bryan Holloway via mailop wrote: > The password is correct, but it insists on verification from this user's no > longer existing cellphone. Yet the back-up account exists. For some reason > gmail refuses to try and use it, which would solve the underlying