On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 6:23 AM Carsten Schiefner via mailop <
mailop@mailop.org> wrote:
>
> <...@icloud.com>: host mx01.mail.icloud.com[17.56.9.31] said: 554 5.7.1
> [CS01] Message rejected due to local policy. Please visit
> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204137 (in reply to end of
On Mon, Nov 25, 2024 at 9:51 AM Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
wrote:
>
> Certainly you aren't meaning the spam going *out* of Google servers, and in
> particular from their own mailing lists at Google Groups. It has been noted
> here multiple times as a major source of spam.
>
> No, I was only talking
On Mon, Nov 25, 2024 at 3:27 AM Carsten Schiefner via mailop <
mailop@mailop.org> wrote:
>
> So, I would like to solicit your view points and comments on the
> trade-off of running a mailing list that is email-address-wise as
> inclusive as possible, and having to constantly clean up after the
> l
On Mon, Nov 25, 2024 at 12:12 AM Simplelists - Andy Beverley via mailop <
mailop@mailop.org> wrote:
>
> We only rewrite the from address if required because of DMARC, but the
> statement above implies that a special case needs to be made when
> delivering to Yahoo.
>
>
For years, Yahoo has rejecte
Hi All,
Thanks for the responses and suggestions. I've deleted the old DKIM DNS
record, and will be implementing a system to rotate the keys every 14 days,
as a starting point.
To answer some questions: I don't think the emails have been modified in
any way, although I haven't seen a complete cop
Hi All,
I run groups.io, an email groups hosting service, similar to Google Groups.
Over the past couple of years, we've had several instances of the following
behavior:
- Someone controlling several Yahoo/Hotmail/Gmail accounts will sign them
up to mailing lists. Each address will sign up for 1-
On Fri, Jul 5, 2024 at 5:31 AM Jeff Pang via mailop
wrote:
>
> When an user requests to join mailing list, which address should we
> take? The envelope address, or the header From address?
>
> For email subscriptions, we use the header From address.
For email to a list, we look at the header Fro
On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 9:11 AM Scott Mutter via mailop
wrote:
> Trying to add an IP address to our SNDS accounts at:
>
> https://sendersupport.olc.protection.outlook.com/snds/index.aspx
>
> Is resulting in a lot of failed page loads, a lot of having to refresh,
> authorization emails seemingly no
Hi All,
ICloud started deferring a lot of Groups.io email this afternoon, so I
contacted their postmaster address. They responded promptly. I am just a
simple unfrozen caveman lawyer, and I'm not sure I understand what's going
on. I'm hoping someone might be able to help (Groups.io is an email gro
On Tue, May 7, 2024 at 10:29 AM Jarland Donnell via mailop <
mailop@mailop.org> wrote:
> Hoping it’s not just me, looking for a sanity check. Our queues today
> are packed with these responses from Microsoft’s mail servers:
>
> 451 4.7.500 Server busy. Please try again later
>
> We are not seeing
On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 5:09 PM David Landers via mailop
wrote:
> Beginning today, we've observed a spike in asynchronous bounces --
> messages initially accepted for delivery but then returned as a
> non-conversational bounce -- at Outlook domains (e.g. outlook.com,
> hotmail.com, etc.) with the
On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 4:30 PM Gerald Oskoboiny via mailop <
mailop@mailop.org> wrote:
> We are planning to move the system that hosts our email
> discussion lists from its old home where it has been for decades
> to an EC2 instance on AWS. It does about 15k deliveries per day,
> most of which go
On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 8:18 AM Al Iverson wrote:
> Mark, the path here is the normal contact channel for Microsoft OLC
> issues - http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=614866&clcid - and
> requesting pre-emptive accommodation:
> More on that here:
>
> https://www.spamresource.com/2021/05/request
Hi All,
As we continue to warm up some new mail servers, we're getting rate limited
on one of them, with the following error:
451 4.7.650 The mail server [45.79.224.9] has been temporarily rate limited
due to IP reputation. For e-mail delivery information, see
https://postmaster.live.com (S775) [
On Fri, Mar 1, 2024 at 8:46 AM Cyril - ImprovMX via mailop <
mailop@mailop.org> wrote:
>
> Upon investigation, we discovered that indeed, checking the DKIM signature
> was failing because of a body mismatch. Digging further, we discovered that
> a dot was removed from the message when going throug
On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 3:09 PM Jay Hennigan via mailop
wrote:
>
> There are many systems that scan links in email and falsely unsubscribe.
> I'd make it two-click. When clicked, have it go to a page that says:
>
> You are about to unsubscribe [address] from mailing list [name of list].
> Are you
Hi All,
I run an email groups hosting service. For many years now, each group
message has included a one click unsubscribe link in the message footer. We
also include appropriate
List-Unsubscribe-Post: List-Unsubscribe=One-Click
headers. The problem with including a one-click unsubscribe link in
On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 10:12 AM Todd Herr via mailop
wrote:
>
> I've seen as yet unconfirmed speculation that this might be the error
> response Yahoo is using for those that don't comply with the new (as of
> today) requirements that mail be authenticated using SPF, DKIM, and DMARC.
>
> See also
On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 4:19 PM Randolf Richardson, Postmaster via mailop <
mailop@mailop.org> wrote:
>
> You'll likely be interested in the reputation score, which is
> presently showing as "Poor" for that IP address (66.175.222.108):
>
> Reputation Lookup || Cisco Talos I
On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 11:00 AM Udeme wrote:
> Mark: looks like as of seconds ago the SBL’s been resolved & removed from
> the SBL?
>
Yes! That's great, but unfortunately and confusingly, it's switched to a
different listing instead: https://www.spamhaus.org/query/ip/66.175.222.108
Thanks,
Mar
Hi All,
One of groups.io's servers was listed by Spamhaus starting Saturday
afternoon (https://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/query/SBL638016). I've been trying
to contact them ever since, but they've been silent. I am humbly asking for
help.
We're an email groups service, like Google Groups. Based on evid
Hi,
Is there anyone from Virgin Media here? We're seeing throttling with the
response:
421 4.1.1 MXIN503 Hourly ratelimit for your IP exceeded
Thanks,
Mark
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Groups.io
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On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 3:09 PM Anne Mitchell via mailop
wrote:
>
> From what I read into this, it likely means you are already on a paid
> package, and that package includes the individual reports, and also that
> now they are offering aggregated reports and you will be able to get
> thosealso
On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 11:19 AM Anne Mitchell via mailop
wrote:
>
> We just wrote up everything that we know about this, including how much
> it will cost, what it actually means, what's still free, etc. It's too long
> to quote here (and it contains quotes from Validity) but here it is in case
On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 6:36 AM John Stoffel wrote:
>
> I've been using digital ocean and then moved to Linode to home my
> personal domain @stoffel.org, but then I'm spending time looking to
> move again because charter.net is my town Cable company and a bunch of
> neighbors use @charter.net emai
On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 1:15 PM John R Levine wrote:
>
> If you need a big VM there's always AWS. They do a surprisingly good job
> of managing outbound mail. You get 62K messages/mo for free, then 10c per
> 1000 messages sent from a VM.
>
For the amount of email we send, that cost structure wo
On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 10:20 AM John R Levine wrote:
>
> I've been happy with a small provider called Tektonic. If you've never
> heard of them, that's a good sign.
>
> Thanks for the recommendation; unfortunately they wouldn't work for us.
Their largest VM is less than half the size we would ne
On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 8:53 AM John Levine via mailop
wrote:
>
> I am reasonably sure that no serious mail system uses UCEPROTECT as
> anything
> other than a very weak signal. It's not surprising they list what other
> people list, since they list about half the net.
>
> Agreed. I think one of
Hi All,
I'm trying to warm up some new email server IP addresses, and I'm getting
the following error sending to Microsoft addresses:
[redacted].mail.protection.outlook.com 550 5.7.511 Access denied, banned
sender[45.79.227.220]. To request removal from this list please forward
this message to de
On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 9:21 AM Jesse Hathaway via mailop
wrote:
>
> 1. Rewrite the RFC5322.From address to be an address from the mailing
> list domain, place the original RFC5322.From address in the Reply-To
> header. Sign the message with the mailing list's DKIM key.
>
> This is what we do.
2.
Hi All,
fyi, over the next week or two, we'll be warming up 6 additional mail
servers, to complement the two that we already use. Below are all 8 IP
addresses; the first two are our original servers.
Cheers,
Mark
66.175.222.12
66.175.222.108
45.79.227.220
45.79.224.9
45.79.224.7
192.53.124.123
1
On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 9:13 PM Benny Pedersen via mailop
wrote:
>
> https://multirbl.valli.org/lookup/66.175.222.12.html sorbs listed not
> spamhaus
>
The sorbs listing dates back to the great Yahoo Groups migration of a few
years ago. One of the groups that migrated over (I'm guessing), had a
Hi All,
Over the past couple of days, the two servers that send email for groups.io,
66.175.222.12 and 66.175.222.108, have been listed on the Spamhaus CSS
blacklist a couple times each. We're an email groups hosting service, like
Google Groups. Nothing has changed on our end for quite a long time
On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 8:29 AM Miles Fidelman via mailop
wrote:
> It's been over a month now, since Google became hostile to email lists.
> I'm still dealing with the aftermath.
>
> How so? We haven't seen any issues.
Mark
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On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 11:47 AM Grant Taylor via mailop
wrote:
> On 6/15/22 6:19 PM, Ángel via mailop wrote:
> > There is a fallback of connecting to the A record on port 25 if there
> > is no MX.
>
> When was the last time that anyone has seen the fall back to A record work?
>
> Just did a quic
On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 10:04 AM Geoff Mulligan via mailop <
mailop@mailop.org> wrote:
> 1. If a recipient on an email message is both in the To: or Cc: and on
> the mailing list, should the listserver send the message to the recipient:
> a) By default
> b) Not by default (but configur
On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 6:54 PM Mary via mailop wrote:
>
> I'm hosted at linode and I manage 100+ mail servers there. To be honest, I
> would highly suggest linode for mail server hosting, since over the past 6
> years, this is the first time I encountered a problem.
>
> No blocks, emails to gmai
On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 2:16 PM Marcel Becker via mailop
wrote:
>
> We only send FBL/CFL reports if the user actually hits the "Report as
> Spam" button in our apps.
>
> This is very good to know, thank you for sharing this. Only going by users
telling us they never clicked the spam button, I ass
On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 11:24 AM Douglas Vought via mailop <
mailop@mailop.org> wrote:
>
> Does anyone have any tips on handling abuse complaints on legit email?
>
> When we (Groups.io) receives an FBL report, we automatically unsubscribe
that person from all email groups they're subscribed to. We
On Thu, Sep 2, 2021 at 2:31 PM Ken Johnson via mailop
wrote:
>
> The kind of answer I was expecting was along the lines of "Obviously your
> data has been mis-interpreted as XYZZY encoding. You can read about XYZZY
> encoding here ." (I did not say so, not
> wanting to launch preconceptions.)
>
Hi Lena,
On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 2:27 AM Lena--- via mailop
wrote:
> According to Юлия П. in Abuse Team Mail.ru,
> they'll not change their new unannounced policy:
> messages from mailing lists (at groups.io) from authors @yandex.ru
> are rejected by mail.ru though DMARC for yandex.ru is p=none.
Hello,
Is there anyone from Symantec here that could contact me off-list? Our
server at 66.175.222.108 is receiving '500 5.7.1 Symantec Zodiac' responses
from some addresses. Going to https://ipremoval.sms.symantec.com/ipr/lookup
and entering the address, it says that the host has a negative reput
Hello,
We're getting this response when sending to att.com from 66.175.222.12 and
66.175.222.108. This is a Proofpoint response, yes? I've looked up our IP
addresses on their site, and we are not being blocked. So maybe it's a rate
limit? I was unable to find a technical contact on their website.
On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 9:33 AM Michael E. Weisel via mailop <
mailop@mailop.org> wrote:
> Hi Mailop group, I hope everyone is well. I was wondering if others are
> seeing much higher mail queues to @yahoo and @aol then normal that started
> late yesterday but got progressively worse this morning
On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 9:53 PM Rob McEwen via mailop
wrote:
>
> The moment "spam" gets away from "consent" and goes into "content"
> (specifically *legal* content) - there are enormous problems - because
> it then becomes one person's often very subjective opinion - against
> another' subjective
On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 1:54 PM Grant Taylor via mailop
wrote:
>
> > Mail servers are online all the time,
>
> Are they?
>
> Can you /guarantee/ that your mail servers are accessible between three
> (~9 hours a year) and four nines (~1 hour a year)?
>
>
If this is really an issue, why don't we ha
On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 8:35 AM Dave Shevett via mailop
wrote:
>
> We're looking at groups.io as well - any other suggestions?
>
>
> I'm the guy that runs groups.io. Feel free to email me off-list if you
(or anyone else) have any questions.
Cheers,
Mark
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Hi All,
It appears our mail server at 66.175.222.12 is being blocked from sending
charter.net email. I haven't been able to locate a contact address for
them. Is anyone from there on here?
Thanks,
Mark
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Hi All,
Cox.net is throttling our new email server for groups.io, at
66.175.222.108, with "server temporarily unavailable" messages. If there's
someone from Cox on here, can you please take a look?
Thanks!
Mark
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Hi All,
I'm bringing up a new mail server for groups.io, 66.175.222.108. I've been
slowly sending email through it for the past two weeks or so. But it's
being throttled by Outlook (sample: 451 4.7.500 Server busy. Please try
again later from [66.175.222.108]. (S77719) [
DM3NAM05FT012.eop-nam05.pr
Hello,
Long shot, but is anyone from mixmax.com on here? It appears they are
generating emails with incorrectly escaped Content-Type headers for
attachments with quotes in their file names, which is causing us to reject
their (otherwise valid) messages.
Thanks,
Mark
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On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 2:47 PM Lyle Giese via mailop
wrote:
> ATT doesn't like Linode. I know I have a server there and have not been
> able to get ATT to clear their inhouse rbl entry.
>
>
> Fair enough, but according to the abuse response I got from them, we're
not on their RBL. And they're n
Hi All,
I think bellsouth.net is throttling the groups.io server at 66.175.222.12
(timeouts either on connect or after we've sent the message, but not
always). I've gone through the normal channels, but there's been no
response. Is there anyone here with them?
Thanks,
Mark
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Working here:
$ telnet mx01.t-online.de 25
Trying 194.25.134.72...
Connected to mx01.t-online.de.
Escape character is '^]'.
220-mailin71.aul.t-online.de T-Online ESMTP receiver fssmtpd2025 ready.
220 T-Online ESMTP receiver ready.
quit
221-2.0.0 mailin71.aul.t-online.de closing.
221 2.0.0 Closing.
On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 11:37 AM rps462 wrote:
> You could be hitting connection limits, recipient limits, maybe people are
> flagging your stuff as spam .. who knows? If you wouldn't mind posting some
> IPs that you're sending from so people can look, that'd be a start.
>
>>
>> Sure. We've been
On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 3:33 PM Michael Rathbun via mailop <
mailop@mailop.org> wrote:
>
> Our normal advice is to put simultaneous connection / hourly volume
> throttle
> limits on the wanadoo and other finicky domains so they don't defer. We've
> had no success in getting limits raised. In som
Hi all,
Is anyone on here with Secureserver/GoDaddy or Wanadoo/Orange? We are
regularly bumping up against their message/connection limits, and I was
hoping we could get those raised.
Also, this is my first post here, so hi. I run Groups.io. If you ever have
any issues with us, please feel free t
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