On Mon, Nov 25, 2024 at 3:27 AM Carsten Schiefner via mailop <
mailop@mailop.org> wrote:

>
> So, I would like to solicit your view points and comments on the
> trade-off of running a mailing list that is email-address-wise as
> inclusive as possible, and having to constantly clean up after the
> latest non-delivery burps of these certain ESPs for X, Y, or Z email
> addresses.
>
> Mailing lists are our business. Not being inclusive, ESP wise, would be a
non-starter.

For the most part, in my experience, the largest ESPs are very good. Gmail
is the best, both for delivery as well as keeping messages out of spam. But
Yahoo is very good as well (and Lili @ Yahoo is great to deal with). Apple
iCloud is also good, although their bounce reasons are very opaque.
Microsoft/Hotmail, for the most part, is decent, although we'll sometimes
see throttling and it can be very difficult to find someone there to
address it.

We make it easy for our users to see any errors their ESPs are sending
back to us when we try to deliver email. That helps, because they can take
it upon themselves to address any delivery issues.

Cheers,
Mark
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