Re: [mailop] Mandated Email Terms of Service (ToS) announcement

ore about that here: https://www.isipp.com/for-isps/ Anne -- Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. Email Law & Policy Attorney Legislative Advisor Author: Section 6 of the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (the Federal email marketing law) CEO Institute for Social Internet Public Policy Creator of the term 'deli

Re: [mailop] Mandated Email Terms of Service (ToS) announcement

is free to query / transfer. Anne --- Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. Email Law & Policy Attorney CEO Get to the Inbox by ISIPP SuretyMail Author: Section 6 of the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (the Federal email marketing law) Board of Directors, Denver Internet Exchange

Re: [mailop] DNSBL List

whether that's right, wrong, or anything else. I'm simply pointing out why blocklists aren't going to help senders identify who their spammers are; and thus it has always been. Anne -- Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. Email Law & Policy Attorney; Legislative Advisor Author: Section 6 o

Re: [mailop] Gmail emoji reactions

documents involved which are the subject of the correspondence. Anne -- Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. Email Law & Policy Attorney Legislative Advisor Author: Section 6 of the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (the Federal email marketing law) CEO Institute for Social Internet Public Policy _

[mailop] Crown Castle Fiber?

Is there anyone here who knows anyone at Crown Castle Fiber? They have an unrepentant spammer spamming impunity from their IP space, and apparently abuse@ goes to /dev/null, based on the complete lack of response. :~( Thanks for any assistance. Anne -- Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. Email Law

Re: [mailop] Google Blocking Mail Citing Low Domain Reputation

o that the email you send goes to the inbox, not the junk folder. Learn more at gettotheinbox.com Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. Email Law & Policy Attorney CEO Get to the Inbox by ISIPP SuretyMail Creator of the term 'deliverability' Author: Section 6 of the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (the Federa

Re: [mailop] Unsolicited messages from *.outbound-mail.sendgrid.net

l certify them, but we also educated them quite bluntly about collateral damage. Anne __ Get the Good Sender Seal of Approval! Our Good Senders List™ email certification and deliverability assistance is respected around the world so that the email you send goes to the inbox, not the junk folder. Le

Re: [mailop] Does anyone have a real human contact at unifiedlayer/hostgator/bluehost?

> buried in the mix.. It's not a sending spam issue, it's a hosting a heavily spamvertized site issue. :-(The spammer is sending through a cousin domain, or having people send through Gmail, so that their site is 'safe'. :-( Anne -- Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. Email Law & P

[mailop] Does anyone have a real human contact at unifiedlayer/hostgator/bluehost?

Does anyone have a real human contact at unifiedlayer/hostgator/bluehost? Or should we just blackhole them? Massive ongoing spam, we've given them the (constant!) IP address, they just do the shell game of which subsidiary is responsible. Anne -- Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. Email Law &am

[mailop] Akamai / Akamai Edge contact?

Is there anyone from Akamai here, or does anyone have an Akamai contact? Thank you in advance! Anne -- Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. Email Law & Policy Attorney Legislative Advisor CEO Institute for Social Internet Public Policy Author: Section 6 of the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (the Federal e

Re: [mailop] Amusing and Convoluted Request

ead hold your sending customer to account.) Anne -- Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. Email Law & Policy Attorney Legislative Advisor CEO Institute for Social Internet Public Policy Author: Section 6 of the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (the Federal email marketing law) Author: The Email Deliverability Handbook Board

Re: [mailop] How should we respond in this situation

the request. Definitely talk with legal counsel. Anne -- Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. Email Law & Policy Attorney Legislative Advisor CEO Institute for Social Internet Public Policy Author: Section 6 of the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (the Federal email marketing law) Author: The Email Deliverability Hand

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: AT&T Block

> On Jul 9, 2024, at 2:11 PM, Bill Cole via mailop wrote: > > On 2024-07-09 at 13:53:47 UTC-0400 (Tue, 9 Jul 2024 11:53:47 -0600) > Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. via mailop > is rumored to have said: > >> Receivers don't block email from new IPs by default; they bl

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: AT&T Block

roper authentication, spam complaints, or something else). What is the nature of the email which was being sent through those IP addresses? Instead of grumbling, if you can give us information, perhaps someone here can help you. Anne -- Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. Email Law & Policy Attorney Leg

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: AT&T Block

it right as a result of that. So, in fact, they were the only lawsuit that didn't go to trial. Anne -- Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. Email Law & Policy Attorney Legislative Advisor CEO Institute for Social Internet Public Policy Author: Section 6 of the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (the Federal email

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: AT&T Block

d law in the U.S. and has been for more than 20 years. In fact "my server, my rules" is enshrined in our Federal law (of course not so succinctly or in nearly as straightforward a manner). Anne -- Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. Email Law & Policy Attorney Legislative Advisor CEO Instit

Re: [mailop] salesforce phishing emails

> On Jun 12, 2024, at 11:40 PM, Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop > wrote: > > Am 12.06.24 um 18:04 schrieb Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. via mailop: >> >> >> I've also always found abuse@ to be responsive there, and it's peopled by a >> real person, w

Re: [mailop] salesforce phishing emails

d, which I'm > inclined to believe. I've also always found abuse@ to be responsive there, and it's peopled by a real person, who gives real responses (at least that was the case as recently as 12/21/23. Anne --- Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. Internet Law & Policy Attorney CEO

[mailop] Information About the Issue with Delivering to Gmail from Microsoft

so that the email you send goes to the inbox, not the junk folder. Learn more at gettotheinbox.com Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. Email Law & Policy Attorney CEO Get to the Inbox by ISIPP SuretyMail Creator of the term 'deliverability' and co-founder of the deliverability industry

Re: [mailop] Ongoing issue with sending emails to Gmail / Google hosted domains from our MS 365 Tenant

volumes of above 1million at least 3x a week. (So yeah, it could be the Microsoft domain about which Gmail is complaining but that somehow seems even less likely than the other theory.) Anne --- Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. Internet Law & Policy Attorney CEO Get to the Inbox by SuretyMail A

Re: [mailop] Anyone from Microsoft?

ul. Anne --- Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. Internet Law & Policy Attorney CEO ISIPP SuretyMail Sender Certification Author: Section 6 of the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (the Federal email marketing law) Author: The Email Deliverability Handbook Board of Directors, Denver Internet Exchange Dean Emeritus,

Re: [mailop] One click unsubscribe in mailing list messages

ght in on a case that turned on deciding what this language meant, I could argue either side, and convincingly so, I believe. Anne --- Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. Email Law & Policy Attorney CEO Institute for Social Internet Public Policy (ISIPP) Author: Section 6 of the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (the F

Re: [mailop] One click unsubscribe in mailing list messages

to. Where I think that it's going to get interesting is when senders start removing the visible, in the body, unsub link that people are used to looking for, and relying _only_ on the header-embedded unsub. And that is more likely from where the litigation will come. Anne --- Anne P. Mitch

Re: [mailop] One click unsubscribe in mailing list messages

: https://www.isipp.com/a-one-step-unsubscribe-is-required-by-federal-law/ Anne --- Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. Email Law & Policy Attorney CEO Institute for Social Internet Public Policy (ISIPP) Author: Section 6 of the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (the Federal email marketing law) Creator of the t

Re: [mailop] What am I supposed to do with abuse complaints on legit mail?

> On Jan 12, 2022, at 11:30 PM, Jay Hennigan via mailop > wrote: > > A single acknowledgement of a successful unsubscribe is fine, but don't make > them jump through another flaming hoop. It's also a violation of Federal law, which requires a "one-step unsubscribe method". Anne -- Anne P

Re: [mailop] Ethics Complaint to Princeton (was: Bizarre GDPR/CCPA scam spam from Princeton researchers)

P.S. These two notes from Jonathan Mayer are appended to the https://privacystudy.cs.princeton.edu/ site; the newest is from yesterday. Note from Jonathan Mayer, the Principal Investigator (Saturday, December 18 @ 11:30pm) Hi, my name is Jonathan Mayer. I’m the Principal Investigator for this

Re: [mailop] Ethics Complaint to Princeton (was: Bizarre GDPR/CCPA scam spam from Princeton researchers)

> > Yes they do communicate but they are now sugesting to spam everybody once > more with some explanation. ... And here is that follow-up spam (below), note that the novatormail.ru is the domain from which our client originally received the email, obviously the domain will change depending o

Re: [mailop] Ethics Complaint to Princeton (was: Privacy research spam apparently from a grad student at Princeton)

Yuval this is awesome, and an awesome result! FWIW, this is what I told Jonathan (after two previous replies/re-replies), yesterday morning, in part - cc:ed to the chair of the compsci department, and the Princeton legal department: He wrote: > Thank you for reaching out about our research on

Re: [mailop] Ethics Complaint to Princeton (was: Privacy research spam apparently from a grad student at Princeton)

Yuval, A good letter! That said, I would prefer you keep the link to my post (and ideally the mention of me) out of it, otherwise it just seems like you are writing it because of me. Anne > On Dec 16, 2021, at 8:53 AM, yuv via mailop wrote: > > Direct note just sent to Jonathan Mayer > belo

Re: [mailop] Ethics Complaint to Princeton (was: Privacy research spam apparently from a grad student at Princeton)

As a follow up, to my letter, I received the following: > Thank you for reaching out about our research on the European Union General > Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) and the California Consumer Privacy Act > (CCPA). A component of the study involves requesting information from > websites ab

Re: [mailop] Ethics Complaint to Princeton (was: Privacy research spam apparently from a grad student at Princeton)

FYI, I have sent my own letter, with my full signature (same one as below), to Princeton, including cc:ing the dept. chair, the abuse department, and the legal department. I do hope you send yours, and soon, as it would be a good 1-2 punch. Anne Anne P. Mitchell, Attorney at Law Dean of Cybe

[mailop] New "What is your GDPR" or "What is your CCPA" policy email scam?

On Friday, we received the following email, purporting to be asking about GDPR policies for our property The Internet Patrol: From: tomhar...@yosemitemail.com: Subject: Questions About GDPR Data Access Process for theinternetpatrol.com To Whom It May Concern: My name is Tom Harris, and I am a r

Re: [mailop] WhatCounts/Costco silliness

Here is what CAN-SPAM requires, following the updated rules issued by the FTC in May of 2008; this is the "single step" requirement: § 316.5 Prohibition on charging a fee or imposing other requirements on recipients who wish to opt out. Neither a sender nor any person acting on behalf of a send

[mailop] SendX?

We have someone asking us for info on SendX, their reputation, etc., and honestly we have never heard of them; while ordinarily we would consider that in and of itself as a data point, I'm wondering if anybody has any experience with them? Anne --- Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. CEO ISIPP Suret

Re: [mailop] Got any users in Texas? Better turn off your spam filters by Dec 2

> On Sep 23, 2021, at 9:08 PM, John Levine via mailop wrote: > > It appears that Jarland Donnell via mailop said: >>> * “the provider has a good faith, reasonable belief that the message >>> contains malicious computer code, obscene material, material depicting >>> sexual conduct, or material

Re: [mailop] Xfinity / Comcast / rsys5.com

> On Sep 15, 2021, at 12:55 AM, Daniele Nicolodi via mailop > wrote: > > I understand that industry back practice recommends to have > "unsubscribe" links in promotional bulk messages. Shouldn't these links > direct to some form that effectively allows to remove the recipient > address from th

[mailop] MailChimp to be Acquired by Intuit

So this is apparently happening: > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Ben Chestnut, Mailchimp > > Subject: Big News from Mailchimp: We're Planning to be Acquired by Intuit > Date: September 13, 2021 at 1:56:01 PM PDT > Reply-To: Ben Chestnut, Mailchimp

[mailop] Recommendation for inbox provider?

. Surely there must be others out there? Anybody have one they recommend? Bonus if they help with authentication setup because she is ..um...tech challenged. Thanks! Anne -- Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. Author: Section 6 of the Federal Email Marketing Law (CAN-SPAM) Board of Directors, Denver Internet

Re: [mailop] Anyone seen this "email warmup" pattern?

ike "MailShake", which gives the user an ESP-like interface, but then sends out the bulk email through the *user's* Gmail account, one at a time (and with no unsubscribe link, to boot). It's disgusting. Anne -- Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. Author: Section 6 of the Federal E

Re: [mailop] So uh... Zoom/Sendgrid... How's that webinar spam investigation coming?

rge" Mitchell -- Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. Dean of Cyberlaw and Cyber Security, Lincoln Law School Author: Section 6* of the Federal Email Marketing Law (CAN-SPAM) *Why yes, I *did* have a certain unrepentant coffee entity in mind when I wrote the vendor liability section of

Re: [mailop] Anybody know Anthony Mitchell or Inboxsys?

it's people looking for intel to use for nefarious purposes. I've also been provided with an intro through LinkedIn from another mutual contact. Thank you again! Anne -- Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. CEO ISIPP SuretyMail Dean of Cyberlaw and Cyber Security, Lincoln Law School Author: Sectio

[mailop] Anybody know Anthony Mitchell or Inboxsys?

they only spun up the service within the past 6 months. Does anybody have any insight into Mr. Mitchell (obviously no relation) and/or his inboxsys.com? Anne -- Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. CEO ISIPP SuretyMail Dean of Cyberlaw and Cyber Security, Lincoln Law School Author: Section 6 of the Fe

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Registered @ Microsoft JMRP - blacklisted without feedback received

> On May 11, 2021, at 11:45 AM, André Peters via mailop > wrote: > > because you MS guys are so clever, I'd like to suggest that personal attacks, *especially* on such a trusted, respected member of the community - not to mention one who is one of the good guys, is not only unwarranted, but

[mailop] EmailDeliverablityReport.com?

Does anybody know who is behind EmailDeliverabilityReport.com? I note it's only about a year old, and I want to know about the trustworthiness/reliability of what they are putting out - for example they are ranking ESPs based on deliverability... their data and info may be completely accurate b

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Some Days I think that Gmail isn't even trying to stop outbound spam..

> On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 9:18 AM Thomas Walter via mailop > wrote: > > You can not trust users to identify spam. Sure you can. You can trust them to identify what *they* consider to be spam. It just doesn't jive with what we consider to be spam. That is, always has been, and always will b

Re: [mailop] scam prevention

> Background: > > Some people at work fell for a scam email where the From line was > > From: =?UTF-8?Q?Darren_Smith=C2=A0?= We have been beating this drum for ages, most recently here: https://www.theinternetpatrol.com/warning-having-email-display-senders-contact-image-and-info-helps-scammer

Re: [mailop] Suddenlink Contact

> Is there anyone with Suddenlink on this list, or does anyone have any > contacts with them, if so please contact me off list. It seems that emails > sent to their postmaster account bounce. Having *just* gone 'round with them on this for a client, and (after many emails and phone calls) gett

Re: [mailop] [External] sendgrid.net

> I've been very saddened. Sendgrid was a reputable ESP that has fallen > from grace. About 6-7 months ago, we started seeing pretty large > amounts of spam from them. Exactly - this tracks with the timeline when a) they ceased being certified by us, b) certain key people who *had* been invol

Re: [mailop] This is..Concerning: DatabaseUSA Wins Case Against The Spamhaus Project

>> >> It was Mr. Charles Benn who, according to the service of process affidavit, >> was authorized to receive process on their behalf. > > It won't surprise you to learn that we have absolutely no clue who "Charles > Benn" is, literally never heard of the guy. Steve, my working theory is t

Re: [mailop] This is..Concerning: DatabaseUSA Wins Case Against The Spamhaus Project

> Another relevant piece of data. The organization that was named in the suit > and has received a permanent injunction against it has been voluntarily > dissolved and struck off the UK registry of companies. > > https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/05303831 > > There is no one covered

Re: [mailop] This is..Concerning: DatabaseUSA Wins Case Against The Spamhaus Project

>> From the judgement: >> "The plaintiff has shown that it has complied with the Hague Convention and >> personally served a representative authorized to accept service of process >> in London." > > Rule #1 of spam: Spammers lie. Absolutely. However, a court isn't going to take a party's wor

Re: [mailop] This is..Concerning: DatabaseUSA Wins Case Against The Spamhaus Project

>> Did you not read what I quoted from the Spamhaus website? They are based >> in Switzerland and Andorra, not the UK. My assumption is that there is >> basically no chance of any U.S. ruling being enforced in either of these >> two countries, unless it is related to a serious crime. I should ela

Re: [mailop] This is..Concerning: DatabaseUSA Wins Case Against The Spamhaus Project

> Did you not read what I quoted from the Spamhaus website? They are based > in Switzerland and Andorra, not the UK. My assumption is that there is > basically no chance of any U.S. ruling being enforced in either of these > two countries, unless it is related to a serious crime. From the judgem

Re: [mailop] This is..Concerning: DatabaseUSA Wins Case Against The Spamhaus Project

> default judgment, Spamhaus is not a US organization or wasn't properly served > or whatever. Right...the thing is that a default judgement is still a judgement. And because they are in the UK doesn't mean that it can't be enforced against them.. in the UK. Here are two good articles abou

Re: [mailop] This is..Concerning: DatabaseUSA Wins Case Against The Spamhaus Project

given 30 days to determine and account for monetary damages and file that with the court. Anne > On Aug 3, 2020, at 4:46 PM, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. > wrote: > > This is disturbing, although I don't know any of the back story. Is there > anything of which anybody is awar

[mailop] This is..Concerning: DatabaseUSA Wins Case Against The Spamhaus Project

This is disturbing, although I don't know any of the back story. Is there anything of which anybody is aware that would somehow change how concerning this is? -- DatabaseUSA Wins Case Against The Spamhaus Project DatabaseUSA, a provider of data and email marketing services, has won a victory

Re: [mailop] Google and Spam detection

Also, starting in this past week, Google (must have) changed their spam-detecting algorithm, as we are seeing that suddenly fully 50% of any day's load in the spam folder are false positives (i.e. has actually been legitimate email, even email that has a months - or even years - long history of

[mailop] SendInBlue Contact?

Does anyone have a contact at Send in Blue? Anne -- Anne P. Mitchell, Attorney at Law. Dean of Cyberlaw & Cybersecurity, Lincoln Law School CEO, SuretyMail Email Reputation Certification Advisor, Governor's Innovation Response Team Task Force Author: Section 6 of the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (the Fed

Re: [mailop] Urgently need contact at Facebook of Instagram and also Omegle

ll the platforms you mentioned > have abuse forms for that kind of reports, and it will be much more efficient > than passing thru a mailing list related to email industry. > > Le dim. 3 mai 2020 à 00:23, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. via mailop > a écrit : > There is a wom

[mailop] Also going on on TikTok (Re: Urgently need contact at Facebook of Instagram and also Omegle)

> On May 2, 2020, at 4:11 PM, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. > wrote: > > There is a woman torturing animals on Omegle, she is advertising it on her > Instagram account. Need to get this in front of the right people to have her > traced and shut down. > > Please let me k

[mailop] Urgently need contact at Facebook of Instagram and also Omegle

There is a woman torturing animals on Omegle, she is advertising it on her Instagram account. Need to get this in front of the right people to have her traced and shut down. Please let me know if you can provide a contact for either org. Anne --- Anne P. Mitchell, Attorney at Law Dean of Cybe

[mailop] Offer for Mailop *Only*: Waiving Application Fee for Email Reputation Certification

All, As more and more businesses are having to shut down their offices, and rely nearly completely on doing business online, making sure that business email gets to the inbox is becoming more important than ever to these businesses. While we of course are also a business, we don't want to profi

Re: [mailop] Any idea who wrote 'Spam Lawsuits: What's the Worst that Can Happen?' ?

Thank you, everyone, for helping solve this mystery! The document actually does have attribution in the Slideshare version (what I had found was a plain PDF file, with no attribution). Thank you again! Anne -- Anne P. Mitchell, Attorney at Law Dean of Cyber Law & Cyber Security, Lincoln Law

[mailop] Any idea who wrote 'Spam Lawsuits: What's the Worst that Can Happen?' ?

I came across a pdf titled Spam Lawsuits: What's the Worst that Can Happen? ...no author, no sponsoring org (although I suspect a connection with MailChimp owing to a line say saying "If you're a MailChimp customer" and another saying "As you're a MailChimp customer") You can see it here: http

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: [FEEDBACK] whose address, was Approach to dealing with List Washing services, industry feedback..

> On Jan 23, 2020, at 3:38 PM, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop > wrote: > > Ah... I always forget that people use mobiles nowadays for sending mail, > where you have separate contacts list at system level... By the way, isn't > mobile usage the root cause of most issues with sending messages to the >

Re: [mailop] [FEEDBACK] whose address, was Approach to dealing with List Washing services, industry feedback..

> I can't recall the exact quote but a key rule is basically this; > > "Spam is whatever my users say it is." And, delightfully, even CAN-SPAM says (essentially) that spam is whatever ISPs say it is. Anne --- Anne P. Mitchell, Attorney at Law, Dean of Cyberlaw, Lincoln Law School of San Jos

Re: [mailop] [FEEDBACK] whose address, was Approach to dealing with List Washing services, industry feedback..

While most of the misdirected email I get is just a nuisance, just last week a lawyer at a law firm in California, with whom I have no connection, emailed documents in a case, with which I have no connection, to opposing counsel, with whom I have no connection (are you a detecting a theme here?

Re: [mailop] A Facebook curiosity: lots of people suddenly have accounts at honet.com?

> Nadine, is that you? Please to provide a C&C warning next time (yes, I audibly snorted, loudly enough for my other half to hear it and ask what I was laughing at). Anne -- Anne P. Mitchell, Attorney at Law, Dean of Cyberlaw, Lincoln Law School of San Jose CEO/President, SuretyMail Email Re

Re: [mailop] Reasons to add plain text alternative to email?

ion customers to email us *only* in plain text (and there has never been any pushback, again, FWIW). Anne Anne P. Mitchell, Esq., Dean of Cyberlaw, Lincoln Law School CEO/President, SuretyMail Email Reputation Certification Author: Section 6 of the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (the Federal anti-spam law) Leg

Re: [mailop] Mailop made Hacker News

> > And the comments on Brandon about him being helpful and respectful are well > deserved. Indeed they are! This is also a reminder, however, that nothing said here is confidential, and that something you say here may end up repeated (and attributed) where you don't want it to be repeated.

Re: [mailop] Gmail marking email from me as spam

> On Oct 7, 2019, at 7:34 AM, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop > wrote: > > I asked on different forums and tried to follow the advices I got. > Previously I didn't have SPF nor DKIM (as I wrote, for long time it was > absolutely no obstacle in getting my messages received by Gmail users), so I > conf

Re: [mailop] Certified Senders Alliance

> In article <3827efcb-337f-4456-9fb8-6eff4a5d9...@isipp.com> you write: >> The CSA has, to the best of my knowledge, never been about best practices > > You're mistaken. Their criteria are here: > > https://certified-senders.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/CSA_Admission_Criteria.pdf > > I've

Re: [mailop] Certified Senders Alliance

> We were certified by ISIPP (as an ESP) many years ago, and I don't remember > going through an extensive check process for that. You did. :-) However it was all in the background, based on your responses to your application. > As we didn't see any improvement in the deliverability, we sto

Re: [mailop] Certified Senders Alliance

The CSA has, to the best of my knowledge, never been about best practices, let alone about enforcing them. The only two organizations anywhere that are truly about certifying email senders because they are following best practices are (again, to the best of my knowledge), Return Path and us. A

Re: [mailop] [ext] Re: Return Path / Sender Score

> On Sep 6, 2019, at 8:01 AM, Ewald Kessler | Webpower via mailop > wrote: > > Not short, but certainly sweet: > > I don't care what method people devise to make sure that people don't get > added to a mailing list without their consent, so long as it actually works. > I don't care if they

Re: [mailop] mailop Digest, Vol 142, Issue 35

> On Aug 24, 2019, at 7:03 PM, Al Iverson via mailop wrote: > > Wait. There was spam before Anne Mitchell defined it for the rest of us? > Actually it was Paul Vixie who defined it - then we worked together to refine the wording and put it up on the MAPS website. Anne --- Anne P. Mitchel

Re: [mailop] [ext] Re: Return Path / Sender Score

> Spam being unsolicited broadcast email, I would say that if you agree to > receive it, it cannot be spam. This definition has held up well over the > twenty-five years I've been involved in the industry. Indeed, and it was formalized in item (2) in the Vixie/Mitchell defintion of spam, which

[mailop] Issue with Mailop 'From' header

Something has changed in the past several weeks so that email from Mailop now comes: From: To: mailop@mailop.org Whereas before the change the email would come: From: Anne Mitchell To: mailop@mailop.org ..making triage, etc., of reading Mailop mail more onerous now, as one has to actually o

Re: [mailop] Lawsuit to watch: Tulsi v. Google

> Also, doesn't CAN-SPAM only apply to senders? No, there is a little-known (apparently) clause in CAN-SPAM that specifically states that ISPs can make any delivery decision that they want to, for any reason or no reason whatsoever. It’s nearly (but not quite) the codification of “their server

[mailop] Lawsuit to watch: Tulsi v. Google

While at first blush the big news about this lawsuit is that Google is being sued for suppressing presidential candidate Tulsi Gabbard's campaign's ads, there is also a piece of the lawsuit where they are suing Google because (they claim) a disproportionate number of her campaign's email was bei

Re: [mailop] More Visitors & More Sales

Oh..my..god...I am so sorry! I had deleted that entry, and how the heck it got in there again to default to mailop...I have no idea..going to strangle my Mac now... Anne..with a very red face. :-( > On Jul 23, 2019, at 8:07 AM, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. > wrote: > > Here ya go ;-)

[mailop] Fwd: More Visitors & More Sales

Here ya go ;-) > Sujata Sain > RE: More Visitors & More Sales > > X-Incomingheadercount: ⁨39⁩ > X-Ms-Exchange-Crosstenant-Originalarrivaltime: ⁨23 Jul 2019 05:28:27.5595 > (UTC)⁩ > X-Originatororg: ⁨outlook.com⁩ > X-Ms-Exchange-Transport-Crosstenantheadersstamped: ⁨PU1APC01HT241⁩ > X-Virus-Sca

Re: [mailop] How to identify source of email sent via Google?

> On Jul 19, 2019, at 12:30 AM, Angelo Giuffrida via mailop > wrote: > > I find it rich that Michael is in here throwing stones... can't exactly throw > stones when you live in a glass house there big Mikey! I find it rich that you would disparage Michael like this, especially when, to the

Re: [mailop] Crazy Sender-score value of 0 instead of 96-98

Relatedly, do we have any idea what is going to happen with SenderScore now that they have been acquired by Validity, and 200 RP employees have been laid off? Anne Anne P. Mitchell, Attorney at Law CEO/President, Institute for Social Internet Public Policy Dean of Cybersecurity & Cyberlaw, Linc

Re: [mailop] AT&T Abuse contact - messages being ignored

> On Jul 10, 2019, at 10:11 AM, Scott Mutter via mailop > wrote: > > I mean... seriously... how are we suppose to combat any type of abuse or > blacklisting when the methods of disputing those issues are ignored? It's unclear from the above whether you are trying to *report abuse*, or *tryi

[mailop] About to blacklist Marketo - has anyone received non-spam from them?

I'm pretty much giving up on Marketo - and about to BL them and also recommend to others that they do so - as I have *never* received anything other than spam from them, and while they may still have a few good people there, it doesn't seem to make a blind bit of difference overall. Does anyone

[mailop] DigitalOcean responds to DMCA takedown (was re: DigitalOcean calling for social media s* storm? (Re: Why is it so hard to have takedown's performed..))

Just an update on our own issue - which was that DigitalOcean is hosting privacy-formula.com, which is doing wholesale rip-off of content from places like Sophos, Washington Times, Medium, NY Times, etc... and one of our publications (The Internet Patrol). They are basically grabbing the RSS f

Re: [mailop] DigitalOcean calling for social media s* storm? (Re: Why is it so hard to have takedown's performed..)

> I Twittered to @digitalocean about the lack of responsiveness from their > abuse desk. > > They promptly replied via Twitter: > > "We apologise for the trouble. Our security & operation team is already > looking into it." > > As I still had a case open with them, I appended your nice list of >

Re: [mailop] Gmail Contact?

> On Apr 16, 2019, at 10:02 AM, Brandon Long via mailop > wrote: > > followed by "don't be too similar to the bad guys" THIS!!! ^^^ SO much this!! I would say that "trying to be 'clever' and 'fix' things themselves, making themselves look like bad guys in the process" is the #

Re: [mailop] charter.net contact

Hi Marc, We can probably help you with that if you haven't already found a contact. Anne Anne P. Mitchell, Attorney at Law CEO/President, SuretyMail Email Reputation Certification and Inbox Delivery Assistance GDPR, CCPA (CA) & CCDPA (CO) Compliance Consulting http://www.SuretyMail.com/ http:/

[mailop] Webroot contact?

Is there anyone here from Webroot? All of the contacts I have are returning 'not found'. Anne Anne P. Mitchell, Attorney at Law GDPR, CCPA (CA) & CCDPA (CO) Compliance Consultant Author: Section 6 of the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (the Federal anti-spam law) Legislative Consultant CEO/President, Ins

Re: [mailop] Anyone from Mandrill/Mailchimp here?

Paul, please pass the info to us offlist and we'll get it in front of the right person ASAP. Anne *Typed with 1.5 eyes as I'm recuperating from a torn retina, so apologies for any typos. > On Feb 27, 2019, at 10:47 AM, Paul Smith wrote: > > We've just received what I'm 99% sure is a phishing

Re: [mailop] iCloud abuse

Daniel - please see email that I have sent you offlist. Anne --- Anne P. Mitchell, Attorney at Law CEO/President, SuretyMail Email Reputation Certification and Inbox Delivery Assistance GDPR, CCPA (CA) & CCDPA (CO) Compliance Consulting http://www.SuretyMail.com/ http://www.SuretyMail.eu/ Att

Re: [mailop] Comcast Contact

> Is anyone from Comcast on this list or does anyone have a good contact for > email admins there? Looking to troubleshoot end users messages that are > being delivered to their MTAs but never arrive in the recipients’ mailboxes. > Rob, if you reply to me off-list (amitch...@isipp.com) wit

Re: [mailop] Contact at txt.att.net?

> On Jan 20, 2019, at 5:25 AM, Josiah Ritchie > wrote: > > We're trying to deal with what appears to be new rate limiting with domains > handled at txt.att.net. I'd really appreciate a contact who may be able to > help us get mail flowing again. > We may not be able to put you in touch di

Re: [mailop] If you're from Cox - check your SPF records

Cox has been notified and they are on it. :-) Happy Friday! Anne Anne P. Mitchell, Attorney at Law CEO/President, SuretyMail Email Reputation Certification http://www.SuretyMail.com/ Certified Sender DNSBL here: iadb.isipp.com Info here: https://www.isipp.com/email-accreditation/for-isps/ GDP

Re: [mailop] If you're from Cox - check your SPF records

David, may we share this with our Cox contact? Anne > On Jan 10, 2019, at 3:46 PM, David Carriger > wrote: > > If we have anyone from Cox on the list, I was doing some SPF lookups against > large mail providers and stumbled across this... > > "v=spf1 include:%{d}.7b.spf-protect.agari.com

Re: [mailop] Campaign Monitor Spewing Their Own Spam Now

Hello, Carissa, Generally we are used to dealing with an individual - upon receipt of the first spam from your Faye Nagpigkit to a role account (!), on January 8, I wrote to your abuse@ asking for Heather to contact me (this is how we have always worked with you guys in in the past). I never he

[mailop] Campaign Monitor Spewing Their Own Spam Now

Campaign Monitor is now spamming on their own behalf..and our original abuse contact there is unresponsive - in fact abuse@ is unresponsive..maybe gone...anybody have any reason why anything coming from Campaign Monitor's space shouldn't be rejected on sight? Anne Anne P. Mitchell, Attorney a

[mailop] Something VERY weird going on with BitBounce

We just sent out a mailing to a list of several thousand subscribers - we have *never* (at least for the past several years) had a user respond with a BitBounce auto-demand for the 5 cents. We sent out a mailing just a few days ago and there were no users using BitBounce. We *only* use COI so

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