> On Dec 18, 2024, at 5:10 AM, Atro Tossavainen via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> > wrote: > >> Indeed, they could list the Message-ID on their website. That would >> make it much easier. > > If spamtrap operators provided data unequivocally identifying the > messages they had received that would simply out the spamtraps. > > It's kind of contrary to the intention. > > Speaking as a spamtrap operator.
To add to this, since time immemorial blocklists and spam trap operators have taken the view that it's up to the sender to clean up their mailing lists, opt-in levels, etc., it's not the blocklists' job to help the sender - it's the sender's job to tighten up their mailing practices which led to the listing (or in the case of an ESP to tighten up policing their customers and enforcing best practices). I'm not saying whether that's right, wrong, or anything else. I'm simply pointing out why blocklists aren't going to help senders identify who their spammers are; and thus it has always been. Anne -- Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. Email Law & Policy Attorney; Legislative Advisor Author: Section 6 of the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (the Federal email marketing law) Creator of the term 'deliverability'; Co-Founder of the deliverability industry Board of Directors, Denver Internet Exchange Dean Emeritus, Cyberlaw & Cybersecurity, Lincoln Law School Counsel Emeritus, eMail Abuse Prevention System (MAPS) _______________________________________________ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop
