Re: [mailop] Recommendation for inbox provider?

2021-09-07 Thread Philip Paeps via mailop
On 2021-09-07 23:24:48 (+0800), Andre van Eyssen via mailop wrote: On Tue, 7 Sep 2021, Michael Peddemors via mailop wrote: She should find a local hosting provider, someone that she can pick up the phone and call, but of course you get what you pay for. I've found this thread a little amusing

Re: [mailop] Gangs scanning mailboxes for quick cash

2021-09-07 Thread Jay Hennigan via mailop
On 9/7/21 11:05, Mike Hammett via mailop wrote: Fail2Ban to the rescue!  ;-) In some cases. In far too many others, the mailbox user ends up getting spearphished and responds to an official-looking spam email asking to verify credentials, warning of mailbox errors, over quota, etc. Bad guys

Re: [mailop] Recommendation for inbox provider?

2021-09-07 Thread Bill Cole via mailop
On 2021-09-07 at 11:24:48 UTC-0400 (Wed, 08 Sep 2021 01:24:48 +1000 (AEST)) Andre van Eyssen via mailop is rumored to have said: On Tue, 7 Sep 2021, Michael Peddemors via mailop wrote: She should find a local hosting provider, someone that she can pick up the phone and call, but of course yo

Re: [mailop] Labour Day Weekend, Very Large Increase in SnowShoe Spamming..

2021-09-07 Thread Al Iverson via mailop
On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 4:08 PM Jarland Donnell via mailop wrote: > > I've got that whole AS46573 on my internal RBL. Just a complete trash > network. You can blindfold yourself and throw a dart at any of their > /24s and every single one looks like this: > https://bgp.he.net/net/23.247.86.0/24#_dn

Re: [mailop] Labour Day Weekend, Very Large Increase in SnowShoe Spamming..

2021-09-07 Thread Michael Peddemors via mailop
I was just being nice and not calling out the more reputable hosting companies, that also probably found out this week that they gave IP space or found a hacker taking over IP space on their networks. So used one of the bad reputation networks ;) On 2021-09-07 1:59 p.m., Jarland Donnell via ma

Re: [mailop] Labour Day Weekend, Very Large Increase in SnowShoe Spamming..

2021-09-07 Thread Jarland Donnell via mailop
I've got that whole AS46573 on my internal RBL. Just a complete trash network. You can blindfold yourself and throw a dart at any of their /24s and every single one looks like this: https://bgp.he.net/net/23.247.86.0/24#_dns On 2021-09-07 15:37, Michael Peddemors via mailop wrote: It's always

Re: [mailop] Recommendation for inbox provider?

2021-09-07 Thread Bill Cole via mailop
On 2021-09-06 at 20:18:07 UTC-0400 (Mon, 06 Sep 2021 20:18:07 -0400) yuv via mailop is rumored to have said: But what motivates expert mailops to only reccomend the oligopolists as an inbox host? The parameters of the request: tech challenged customer, business domain, was fine with GD. I

Re: [mailop] Google and IPv6, was Recommendation for inbox provider?

2021-09-07 Thread John Capo via mailop
On 2021-09-07 14:20, John Levine wrote: It appears that John Capo via mailop said: The only IPv6 issues I have seen, other than transit only via HE, is delivering to Google. Google seems to assume that mail via IPv6 is spam. The same mail flow via IPv4 is OK with Google. Proper DNS and all

Re: [mailop] SNDS At Work

2021-09-07 Thread Mark Milhollan via mailop
On Tue, 7 Sep 2021, Mike Hammett wrote: I now manage another ISP with another set of e-mail servers I went to sign up for SNDS with my work e-mail. I don't want to use my existing account because I want some amount of separation of duties. What are the rest of you doing in these kinds o

Re: [mailop] SNDS At Work

2021-09-07 Thread Jarland Donnell via mailop
I actually use a free outlook.com address to manage mine. I'd hate for it to be tied to an Office 365 account and then a vendor change close the account later, seems like it would create a bit of a headache. On 2021-09-07 13:09, Mike Hammett via mailop wrote: I now manage another ISP with anot

Re: [mailop] SNDS At Work

2021-09-07 Thread yuv via mailop
On Tue, 2021-09-07 at 13:09 -0500, Mike Hammett via mailop wrote: > I went to sign up for SNDS with my work e-mail. [...] and "You can't > [...]." > Well, that's dumb. That's Microsoft: Size can compensate for dumb, unfortunately. > What are the rest of you doing in these kinds of scenarios?

Re: [mailop] SNDS At Work

2021-09-07 Thread Al Iverson via mailop
I dealt with that here by creating a new Hotmail account just for SNDS access. On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 1:12 PM Mike Hammett via mailop wrote: > I now manage another ISP with another set of e-mail servers (customers, > internal systems, alerts, etc.). > > I went to sign up for SNDS with my work e-

Re: [mailop] Google and IPv6, was Recommendation for inbox provider?

2021-09-07 Thread John Levine via mailop
It appears that John Capo via mailop said: >The only IPv6 issues I have seen, other than transit only via HE, is >delivering to Google. Google seems to assume that mail via IPv6 is spam. > The same mail flow via IPv4 is OK with Google. Proper DNS and all that >stuff, of course. Google has cl

Re: [mailop] Gangs scanning mailboxes for quick cash

2021-09-07 Thread Mike Hammett via mailop
Fail2Ban to the rescue! ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Simon Lyall via mailop" To: mailop@mailop.org Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 8:41:27 PM Subject: [mailop] Gangs scanning

Re: [mailop] Recommendation for inbox provider?

2021-09-07 Thread John Levine via mailop
It appears that Mary via mailop said: > >I don't know why nobody suggested it, but why not ProtonMail? > >https://protonmail.com/ Because they don't quite do what they imply they do: https://techcrunch.com/2021/09/06/protonmail-logged-ip-address-of-french-activist-after-order-by-swiss-authoritie

[mailop] SNDS At Work

2021-09-07 Thread Mike Hammett via mailop
I now manage another ISP with another set of e-mail servers (customers, internal systems, alerts, etc.). I went to sign up for SNDS with my work e-mail. We use Office 365 for the corporate mail and "You can't sign up here with a work or school email address." Well, that's dumb. I don't wan

Re: [mailop] Recommendation for inbox provider?

2021-09-07 Thread Grant Taylor via mailop
On 9/7/21 6:24 AM, John Capo via mailop wrote: The only IPv6 issues I have seen, other than transit only via HE, is delivering to Google. Google seems to assume that mail via IPv6 is spam.  The same mail flow via IPv4 is OK with Google.  Proper DNS and all that stuff, of course. I send and r

Re: [mailop] Off-topic re: hosting recommendation (contains a response pitching my firm) was Re: Recommendation for inbox provider?

2021-09-07 Thread Kevin A. McGrail via mailop
(Resending without the attachment per the Ops request but just email me if you are interested :-) ) I would love to throw my firm's hat in the rink.  For those who know PCCC, we are experts in open source work, cyber security, anti-spam and anti-phishing and have done so since 1998 including f

Re: [mailop] Recommendation for inbox provider?

2021-09-07 Thread Faisal Misle via mailop
+1 for FastMail, can't believe I forgot about them! They're awesome. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, September 6th, 2021 at 6:40 PM, Byron Lunz via mailop wrote: > What about fastmail.com ? > > On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 3:59 PM Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. via mailop > wrote: > >> All, >>

Re: [mailop] Recommendation for inbox provider?

2021-09-07 Thread Andre van Eyssen via mailop
On Tue, 7 Sep 2021, Michael Peddemors via mailop wrote: She should find a local hosting provider, someone that she can pick up the phone and call, but of course you get what you pay for. I've found this thread a little amusing in that we spend so much time railing against the power held by so

Re: [mailop] Recommendation for inbox provider?

2021-09-07 Thread Michael Peddemors via mailop
There are lots' of companies that do email hosting, but you mentioned she is 'tech challenged'. In this case, they should NOT be looking for a large hosting company. She should find a local hosting provider, someone that she can pick up the phone and call, but of course you get what you pay f

Re: [mailop] Recommendation for inbox provider?

2021-09-07 Thread John Capo via mailop
On 2021-09-06 23:58, Philip Paeps via mailop wrote: On 2021-09-07 08:54:51 (+0800), Andre van Eyssen via mailop wrote: On Tue, 7 Sep 2021, Neil Jenkins via mailop wrote: Obviously I'm biased, but our service Fastmail sounds exactly like what you are looking for. We have setup wizards for cust

Re: [mailop] Recommendation for inbox provider?

2021-09-07 Thread Alessio Cecchi via mailop
I also remember that GoDaddy was offering Open-Xchange email solution but on the page that you link GoDaddy said that: "All Professional Business Email plans include:" - Outlook web application So, probably they are still using Open-Xchange email solution but for the future want just only pro

Re: [mailop] Recommendation for inbox provider?

2021-09-07 Thread Edgaras Lukoševičius via mailop
I don't think GoDaddy is discontinuing all email solutions except O365 & GWS. They do offer Open-Xchange based email solution: https://uk.godaddy.com/email/professional-business-email On 2021-09-07 11:44, Dominique Rousseau via mailop wrote: Le Mon, Sep 06, 2021 at 04:47:16PM -0600, Anne P.

Re: [mailop] Recommendation for inbox provider?

2021-09-07 Thread Dominique Rousseau via mailop
Le Mon, Sep 06, 2021 at 04:47:16PM -0600, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. via mailop [mailop@mailop.org] a écrit: > All, > > I know someone who is setting up a business domain, and needs an inbox > host. Her registrar/webhost is GoDaddy and they are discontinuing > their free hosted email, and referring

Re: [mailop] Recommendation for inbox provider?

2021-09-07 Thread Alessio Cecchi via mailop
Hi Anne, I can suggest my own company https://www.qboxmail.com . We provide email hosting only. We provide Control Panel, API, Webmail and standard protocol for email client. Ciao Il 07/09/21 00:47, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. via mailop ha scritto: All, I know someone who is setting up a busin

Re: [mailop] Recommendation for inbox provider?

2021-09-07 Thread Wolfgang Rosenauer via mailop
Am 07.09.21 um 00:47 schrieb Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. via mailop: All, I know someone who is setting up a business domain, and needs an inbox host. Her registrar/webhost is GoDaddy and they are discontinuing their free hosted email, and referring people to paid Office365. It seems that all of t