Oh as a Jaws user I disagree with that! I would find it much better if you
could select what is listed in Item Finder. One keystroke you can use to
find all sorts is so much better than all those ones in Jaws. This is one
area where Window Eyes beats it hands down!
Cheers
Dave
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It won't make me angry if we can work efficiently without them. They cause
all sorts of problems with dynamic content!
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 12:15 PM
To:
I suspect it needs each nation's braille authority to tell Apple what needs
doing in terms of code, and for standards to be created in terms of
representing things on braille displays, which Apple can then implement. The
UK Association for Accessible Formats will be looking closely at this area,
as
Use m.facebook.com
Cheers
Dave
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of chad baker
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:30 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: facebook with safari
Hi i just got friend requests o
Do you know, I was thinking about that very issue earlier and decided that
yet another ms feature has to be ditched right now. I know of a PC search
that will work better, but the idea of one OS that just does what I want it
to in a pretty consistent way gets more appealing by the day. I get my han
There is also a problem with Google Groups. Sometimes, when you join a list,
however you set it, it will not send you any email. I'm afraid I think they
could be the problem. I have spam set to be delivered so I can check it
myself!
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.co
Hey, I haven't converted yet, but I know from this thread that it does what
Outlook does and more. I wish I had some of the keystrokes Apple Mail does!
I won't say anything about a certain interface that begins with the letter r
and how dreadful it is on here lol!
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From
It is possible to reply to comments on your status, wall posts etc, but not
to inbox messages. You can receive emails to which you can reply on other
people’s comments once you have commented on a status. Your other option is
to set up text messaging. With texts, you can reply to inbox messages,
ac
I can’t tell you the exact quality, but I’m really impressed with my new
iPhone for audio recording. It is crystal clear. To be honest, I haven’t
found anything major I don’t like yet!
Cheers
Dave
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Well, I'm mighty impressed with that site and everything I've tried from it,
but I've added a load of free apps I found on iTunes for music and radio as
well, and they *all* just work. I know there will be plenty that don't, but
in general, I've never seen so much accessibility in mainstream softwa
They are both very expensive though. I would urge working out which tasks
you can do on the Mac side. The more you can do on the Mac side, the cheaper
the screen reader you will need. If you can use iWork and built in Mac apps
rather than touching Outlook, for instance, you can probably get away wi
I don't know anything about this side of using a Mac at all. Is there a good
place to learn about it, right from scratch? I'll probably hardly need it,
but would certainly like to know just in case.
Cheers
Dave
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar.
documents. You can find
it at www.bean-osx.com.
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From: "Dave Taylor"
To:
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 12:15 AM
Subject: RE: Need Mac User's advice on which Windows screen reader to
purchase and learn
> They are both very expensive though. I woul
Hi,
I had started to experience this with 4.0.2 in the past couple of days, and
hadn't changed any settings either. Using phonetics at least the phonetic
always speaks.
Cheers
Dave
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behal
This seems to be a problem with speaking rate at 75 or over. Cut to below 70
and it will be noticeably better. Think it might be a voice thing but will
be contacting them.
Cheers
Dave
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Beh
Chris,
Good to see you hear. Bear in mind that, though you would pay more over all,
you can spread the cost of a Mac, so this might actually be the most
affordable way for people to buy an accessible system!
Cheers
Dave
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:ma
I sync my notes to Outlook, but have the Documents App which allows you to
work with text files as well, over wifi at least!
Cheers
Dave
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Allison Manzino
Sent: Sunday, September
Oh, does this have any advantages over Where To, which is free and
excellent?
Cheers
Dave
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Braille
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:27 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
S
UK, and for us Europeans
it's useless. It has no maps for Europe.
Cheers,
Anne
On 18 Sep 2010, at 01:16, Dave Taylor wrote:
> Oh, does this have any advantages over Where To, which is free and
> excellent?
>
> Cheers
> Dave
>
>
> -Original Messag
That'll teach me to read conversations from the start rather than the end
then! Blooming Outlook! I can't wait to have a ail client that works well
with threads, but I know that won't be long now!
Cheers
Dave
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...
s just a feeler by Sendero to
see how much interest is generated on the IOS platform. Hopefully a good
showing will make them want to develop a full turn by turn GPS app like
mobile geo for IOS.
>
> hth
> On Sep 17, 2010, at 7:16 PM, Dave Taylor wrote:
>
>> Oh, does this have
ust a feeler by Sendero to
see how much interest is generated on the IOS platform. Hopefully a good
showing will make them want to develop a full turn by turn GPS app like
mobile geo for IOS.
>>>
>>> hth
>>> On Sep 17, 2010, at 7:16 PM, Dave Taylor wrote:
>>>
If you Google "Google Accessible Search" it will take you to the page. It's
a very simple interface and it gives results based more on accessibility but
they are still good. In Windows I find it loads much more quickly than the
regular Google search, but I do quite hope iGoogle works better for me
If they are to put a male voice on, I think it would have to be one of the
other Mac voices. I still prefer UK Eloquence to anything personally!
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel McGee
Sent: Sunday, Septe
Hi, I finally received the keyboard I ordered through Amazon.co.uk, they
just call the Mini Bluetooth Keyboard. This is the one with the arrows on
the A, S, D, and W keys. I must say, the reviews on all the lists have been
really helpful, this is a great keyboard and I'm very impressed. I didn't
th
Hi,
This explanation doesn’t make sense to me. What do you mean by transferring
mail into appropriate formats? What will Apple Mail import from? I must
admit I’m wondering if a MobileMe trial is the best way to do this now?
Any help appreciated as Mac expected any day!
Cheers
Dave
From: m
efore through tb. I googled an article on
how to do it and that was the best free way to do it.
S
On Sep 23, 2010, at 2:56 AM, Dave Taylor wrote:
Hi,
This explanation doesn’t make sense to me. What do you mean by transferring
mail into appropriate formats? What will Apple Mail import from? I
They are impressive figures indeed. For the sake of productivity,
accessibility, and for many other reasons, I hope companies look at Mac to
go with their iPads more seriously. They generally go for expensive laptops
anyway, so I suspect costs would be lower after the transition!
From: macvisio
Dave
On 26/09/2010 09:00, Simon Fogarty wrote:
Dave,
Is there not an export option within outlook 2k7 that lets you create
an archive file in a mail format?
*From:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Dave Taylor
*Sent:* Friday, 24
I bet that if they tried, they would soon realise that the ribbons would be
difficult if not impossible to implement with VO anyway. As it is, their
insistence on these awful things is one of my key drivers for making the
switch, though there are many others too. Mike, the podcast where you
install
All I will need to do is basic text editing, reading of word documents and
some fairly basic spreadsheet work. I'm hoping that Text Edit and Open
Office will get me through that!
Cheers
Dave
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com]
esday, September 28, 2010 12:52 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver
Text edit will certainly handle the word processor side of things, and open
office should handle the spreadsheet.
On Sep 27, 2010, at 5:22 AM, Dave Taylor wrote:
> All I will need
uot;Kawal Gucukoglu"
>> To:
>> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 4:27 AM
>> Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver
>>
>>
>>> I too will be switching to I works rather than working with Microsoft
Products in the future.
>>>
>>>
&g
Hi
Just because your login said that this morning, doesn't mean it is gone. It
may have been down for a while. You should always try again later,
especially with Facebook, and you'll often find your problem has gone lol!
Cheers
Dave
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.c
s.com
Subject: Re: Facebook and Safari 5?
Tried several times over the c9urse of the morning.
Best,
Donna
On Jun 10, 2010, at 1:37 PM, Dave Taylor wrote:
> Hi
>
> Just because your login said that this morning, doesn't mean it is gone.
It
> may have been down for a while. You should
www.apple.com/accessibility then select by product. You can view a user
guide which include VO for each one. I've certainly looked at the Snow
Leopard and iPhone ones!
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon Fog
I
As a stream user I would say this. Remember you will also have to pay for a
storage card. That being the case, if I didn't have one I would regard any
Apple device with 16 GB, or even better 32 or the incredible 64 GB of
storage as a better bet. Synchronising will be much easier and I can't thin
If I didn't have a stream now, and I liked the way the apple products work,
which I hope I will when I get my hands on them in a few weeks, I would say
a 64 GB iPhone 4G would meet so many needs that a Stream would not be worth
the money. Given that I bought one a couple of years ago when VO wasn't
I have a 32 GB card in mine
Cheers
Dave
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ana G
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 6:26 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Victor Stream
The nice thing about a Victor Strea
Must admit, from every demo I've heard, the lack of automatic reading of
certain items is one of my concerns about switching over. Whereas a sighted
person can just look anywhere on screen, requiring more keystrokes or
gestures than needed is counterproductive and could even contribute to RSI
in ex
Hi
Does tabbing around not make VO automatically interact?
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joel Zimba
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 6:00 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How To Get VoiceOve
ay to navigate with VO.
Many ex-JAWS users get themselves into a muddle by tabbing everywhere. As a
very very long-term Mac user, the tab key is the last thing I think about
for navigation.
Cheers,
Anne
On Jun 16, 2010, at 7:03 PM, Dave Taylor wrote:
> Hi
>
> Does tabbing arou
ves into a muddle by tabbing everywhere.
As a very very long-term Mac user, the tab key is the last thing I think
about for navigation.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Anne
>
>
> On Jun 16, 2010, at 7:03 PM, Dave Taylor wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Does tabbing around not mak
Here are some specific questions on areas where it appears Jaws is ahead.
1. In messenger programs, is it possible to have a set of keystrokes that
will read messages and stay within the history area while being able to type
in the edit area at the same time and review that typing? I would want to
Apple hopefully iChat will work just as well. As for other
IM applications, we are best writing to the developers directly.
On 17 Jun 2010, at 10:35, Dave Taylor wrote:
> Here are some specific questions on areas where it appears Jaws is ahead.
>
> 1. In messenger programs, is it po
o. and saving
locations you can use hot spots that can defying what you want to do but
they are not app specific sadly.
>
> Sorry I could not answer everything.
>
> Take care.
>
> S
> On Jun 17, 2010, at 2:35 AM, Dave Taylor wrote:
>
>> Here are some specific ques
e is a better way. I think iChat supports VO +J but as I
was about to try it Safari 5 seemed to mess up my iChat experience. I have
seen JAWS use MSN Messenger for Windows and it is far superior, if we keep
the pressure up with Apple hopefully iChat will work just as well. As for
other IM application
a viable alternative, just as APple has proven the Mac and its
OS are viable alternatives.
On Jun 17, 2010, at 5:27 AM, Dave Taylor wrote:
> Here is where I think one of the biggest issues is though. As a
prospective
> Mac user, from the demos and manuals, there seem to be an awful lot of
>
links
menu and items menu. and if you have the newer ones and are familiar
with using a mouse you can do a lot of things with the track pad
commander feature. good luck with your decision, max
On Jun 17, 2010, at 4:27 AM, Dave Taylor wrote:
> Here is where I think one of the biggest issues
owever, you won't get any idea of VoiceOver by just asking questions. If
you can get to an Apple Store or Apple reseller, try one out.
Cheers,
Anne
On Jun 17, 2010, at 7:13 PM, Dave Taylor wrote:
> Wish you could lock the VO keys with an arrow based command, that would
m
n 17, 2010, at 10:35 AM, Dave Taylor wrote:
Hi
Quick Nav certainly sounds excellent but doesn't appear to mimic things like
VO J. I in fact instigated the BCAB Apple day in July after Sight Village
Birmingham which seems to be very popular, so will be doing exactly what you
suggest as well. I&#
fficult if scripts broke,
or programs were updated, or I was simply trying to explain to a non-
JAWS user how I did something. Now I tell them what steps I take, and
in most cases, they can replicate them.
On Jun 17, 10:35 am, "Dave Taylor" wrote:
> Here are some specific questions o
I've tried those voices. The samples sound great, but they pronounce so many
real words wrong it's untrue. I'd be interested to know how responsive the
computer is when using them on the Mac side as in Jaws it's a problem. I
suppose it's possible also that the Mac version is better than the Windows
Hi
Do bear in mind that it can be the speech synth dying. Try another speech
synth and see if you still have the same problems.
Cheers
Dave
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicolai Svendsen
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 1:26 PM
To: ma
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