There are a whole number of things I've found I simply can't do, particularly in Outlook and Excel, simple things like read an email from the iTunes store without having to put it in the browser, which requires four individual keystrokes and a long wait!
-----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Justin Ekis Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 8:29 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Need Mac User's advice on which Windows screen reader to purchase and learn While I actually found office 2007 to be just as accessible and usable as anything else on windows, I agree that it is more pleasant to do anything on the Mac. I almost bought IWork, and might still do it, but so far I have found that a free word processer called bean does everything that I need to do when working with documents. You can find it at www.bean-osx.com. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Taylor" <davetay...@tafn.org.uk> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 12:15 AM Subject: RE: Need Mac User's advice on which Windows screen reader to purchase and learn > They are both very expensive though. I would urge working out which > tasks > you can do on the Mac side. The more you can do on the Mac side, the > cheaper > the screen reader you will need. If you can use iWork and built in Mac > apps > rather than touching Outlook, for instance, you can probably get away > with > NVDA. Office 2007 is slow and, in my view, doesn't work that well with > screen readers. Office 2007 and 2010 use an entirely different > interface > than anything else out there and I think are slow and hard to learn. > This is > the main reason I won't be surprised if I make that order in the next > couple > of weeks and go over to a similar situation where I use Mac for > everything I > can and only cross back when I have to. > > Nothing works like VO, and nothing has a voice to match Alex, I think > you'll > hate everything about the way Windows is going, personally! > > Cheers > Dave > > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados > Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 5:20 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Need Mac User's advice on which Windows screen reader to > purchase and learn > > Jaws is more or less the standard in terms of you'll run in to that > more > than others. > > Window-eyes is another great option. I haven't used it but many many > people > > think very highly of it. > > What I would do if I were you is take that Mac, set yourself up a > virtual > machine and try the demo copies of all the options you listed. Read > the > manual / ask questions and you should be able to bootstrap yourself. > You > may need help creating the VM for Windows I had a help desk not sure > your > situation although there is a podcast that details this process. > I like Jaws myself but I have heard Window-eyes can be more stable > and > leaner on resources. Costs differ, JFW is probably the most > expensive. > Window-eyes comes with an option where you can pay for the software > in > installments which is a fantastic feature on a budget. > > Hope that helps. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bryan Jones" <openses...@me.com> > To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 8:52 PM > Subject: Need Mac User's advice on which Windows screen reader to > purchase > and learn > > > I realize the question might sound strange and even off-topic, but I > really > want to hear this advice from fellow Mac and VO Users. When I last > used > Windows I was able to get by with a screen magnifier and didn't use a > screen > > reader. By the time I needed to start using a screen reader I had > already > moved to the Mac full time so VO was the natural choice. Now I'm being > required to start using Windows again, along with Office 2007 and > Internet > Explorer 8 and I'm not sure which Windows screen reader I should > invest my > time and money to learn, or if one of them is more like VO than the > others. > I will be running either XP or Windows 7 under Fusion. > > Please send your replies directly to me off-list as this probably > isn't a > thread that needs to grow here. I would be grateful for your thoughts > on the > > following questions: > 1. I've heard of Jaws, Window-Eyes, System Access, and NVDA. Any > others I > should consider? > 2. Is there a Windows screen reader that works like VO? > 3. Is there one Windows screen reader that is easier to learn than the > others? > 4. I was intimately familiar with XP but don't know Windows 7 at all. > Are > they similar enough that I should get Windows 7, or should I try to > get XP > so that I don't have to learn a new operating system along with the > new > screen reader? > 5. I will probably only need to use Windows for the next 2 years and > most of > > my work will still be done on the Mac. Given this limited time frame, > is one > > of the Windows screen readers less expensive to own over that time > period? > > TIA for any assistance, > Bryan > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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