I was always using the Ctrl+F5 keystroke in Windows Notepad to insert the date
and time quickly and easily. How can this be accomplished in OSx?
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If not, you will get a "... is not allowed to send keystrokes" alert.
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will get the same dialog when you use it with an application for the first
time only.
You also need to have any such application allowed to "control your computer"
in System Preferences->Security & Privacy->Accessibility.
If not, you will get a "... is not allowed to se
. It is
clearly not exactly correct, since the resolution of the image file was pretty
poor.
I’m open to suggestions from anyone else who can go to that web page and figure
out all the steps.
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For the benefit of listers who missed it, below you will find the web site
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Oh, this is so simple, and yet I didn’t know about the VO-Shift-C command.
Thanks very much.
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Jürgen,
Again thanks for that set of single commands to do what I wanted. So now I’m
wondering if there is a method in OS to record a sequence of keystrokes as a
macro, and then assign to a single command? Point me in the direction, and I’ll
see if I can figure it out.
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recognized?
Just some random thoughts, as I’m not an Apple Script person — yet...
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email message I hear the
numbers 100 and 500. How do I turn off this amusing (but not meaningful)
behavior? I suspect it’s a Voiceover issue and not Mac OS.
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Jonathan and E.T.
Juxtaposition seems to be the issue. If I separate the word appendix from the
letter C wit a comma, the problem stops. Having the “ix” close to d, c, x, or
even i would result in a roman numeral. Good old Eloquence!
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Okay, have sent the notice to Apple Accessibility.
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Laurie
Here’s what I found.
vo-m twice for extra menus
Vo-right until you reach notifications.
Vo-down to open.
Vo-space on the today checkbox.
Tab to hide alerts an banners.
if not checked, then check.
see if that works.
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I apologize for asking this again. I’d like to routinely copy photos
that are in iCloud and store them on my hared drive. Where again do I look for
photos that are usually in the cloud?
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Thanks. The Export option inside the photos app, I presume? Seems like a month
ago I was actually able to open the photos library folder and just copy the
latest ones from finder. Now all it says is “no permission to read”.
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Jonathan,
Okay, now you’ve given me enough rope to seriously hang myself. With the
correct script syntax in that OCR rendering, I’ll see if I can actually create
that magical single keystroke to accomplish the task. Not sure how soon I’ll
get to it today, but my appetite is whetted.
Dave
Here’s some more tips for that photo. Make sure you have room lights on. Then
switch your camera so that your flash is off (you want to see the LED lights
and their colors). You can press the shutter more simply by pressing one of the
volume up/down buttons.
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Yes. In a mail conversation with them now. They initially could not duplicate,
so I told them to use the Alex voice.
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No. The document I’m reading is plain text. It has to do with Alex, and the
juxtaposition of the “ix” to the “d” or “c”.
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Just got follow-up from Apple Accessibility. Thanking me for the additional
information (Alex, juxtaposition) and telling me that it has been sent to the
appropriate group.
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to pop up when I first start my Mac — can’t for the life of me remember where I
need to go and make changes. Any help?
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Aha. No way I would have remember looking there. Thanks.
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E.T. — Why do you say that about Catalina?
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Why not just do it via the Apple store on the web?
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Thanks! I’ll check it out, and if I have questions, will let you know.
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Amazing! I’ve usually ignored the Windows menu in all applications since it was
always so boring. I’ll have to change my habits.
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What do I need to change either in Excel or in VO to make this work? It’s a
game-changer.
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Wonder if you need to look at last names? I think the list is sorted by first,
last.
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Any takers out there? I still haven’t figured out a way to have VO specifically
verbalize parenthesis or minus signs in Excel. And this also appears to be a
problem using theNumbers app.
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Yes, Mine has been set to “some” and Also to “All”. Still no joy.
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You know, you have a way of hitting nails on the head. I didn’t even think of
that, even knowing what Alex does with the Roman numerals. Off to give that a
try.
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Just as the subject says, can I get good old Eloquence loaded on my Mac to use
for VO?
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Mary,
Okay, thought I’d ask.
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Wow! These voices are extremely good. The children’s voices are so realistic,
but I don’t think I’d want to have one for all the time. Thanks for passing
this along.
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Alex, or Alex Compact? I didn’t try the compact version.
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Yes I reported first when I had the problem, and then followed up with the news
that Alex was the culprit. Now I need to verify whether it’s limited to Alex,
vs. Alex compact.
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Hello Ann,
Sad to report that Fred is also a non-negative speaker, along with Alex and
Alex Compact. Sarina works, along with Tom. My quest for a voice that I can
live with, and for now one that I don’t need to purchase, goes on...
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Tim,
I am also wondering where is that mysterious setting that is haunting me. So
far, in all my wanderings through VO and Accessibility settings, I have not
found the holy grail.
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Oh, and your message did come through, loud, clear, and a success.
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Absolutely okay. Any time is always better than “never."
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there’s a difference in
how I navigate. But for now Tom is performing well, though I’m not enthralled
with his voice.
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E.T.,
A question on these voices. I see that a single credit is US$14.99. So one
credit allows me to download one voice. I get that. But if I wanted to change
to another of their voices, can I trade in the one I don’w want in exchange for
another, or do I need to buy another credit?
Dave
Tim,
Did I ever mention to you that I use the minus$ method of negative number
marking, since the parentheses do not work unless I set punctuation to “all”?
What is your negative indicator set to?
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Not sure you got the point. I’m cheap, so $14.99 would be my limit for
investment right now. I get one voice for that, correct? Can I turn in that
voice later and get a different one without shelling out another $14.99?
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Good suggestion. I haven’t spent any time looking at activities yet. Hope
they’re not complicated.
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Barry,
And do I presume that you are also using Alex and that he is able to pronounce
the negative values?
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Dan,
Just caught your pun. Yes, I need to find a grumpy, cantankerous voice.
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the web sites to set up a link have failed.
Am I doomed to use Numbers, simply because it’s the only app that will read
those headers while navigating? Or has someone developed scripts to handle it?
Help!
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headers speaking is
essential. Heigh-ho, off to Numbers, I go!
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a specific set of such, that I should learn?
Thanks again for putting me back on the right trail. OMG! Hope I don’t have
another round of issues with negative numbers...
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I have mine set the same, except I can’t find where you have the mouse cursor
speaking after a 0 second delay. Where is that?
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I found a mistake in your instructions. When you want to add another to the
selection, it’s VO+Command+Return. Not simply Command+Return.
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an app I can run on these files that
will search (like Shawm)and identify the artist, album, and title, and “fix”
the meta data?
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Yes, a Google search did not bring up any specific app. Lots of discussion on
CDDB. Seems like an automated app or program, reading a list of audio files,
and running a virtual comparison using a Shazzam process could be a real
opportunity.
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tips?
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Tim,
If, Any, From, USPS…
I’ve used similar criteria for moving and copying messages to other folders, so
that part is set up properly.
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Yes, I’d also like to know the process, and why it never seems to work for me.
I consistently get the “xxx cannot be dopped on yyy”.
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It’s not just that she doesn’t get the messages (and they occur each weekday).
They never show up in my sent items folder, either.
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used to work on a
Windows PC, but not sure it’s working on my Mac.
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Agree, and I can’t get this method to work, either. Is it certain that the
correct keystroke is VO+Command+Shift+Spacebar? A lot of fingers, and it’s not
working for me.
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Okay, I’ll give that a try. The instructions given earlier said
VO-Command-Shift-Space, so the command key is not involved.
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Barry,
I’m confused, and this is likely in not correctly interpreting your layout of
keypresses. When you write VO-command you are actually saying VO
(Control+Option)? Is that correct?
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E.T. so the syntax VO-command-shift-space literally means holding down the
Control, Option, Command, Shift keys and pressing spacebar?
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find any menu item or command that would sort them all. And yes, I’m careful to
make sure I create each new folder connected to my original mailbox “Dave’s
Mail”.
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Sounded promising, but it did not work. I even shut down the mail app
in-between, and still they are not sorted. Strange. Maybe I need to export the
mailboxes, and sort them somewhere else, then import?
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About a dozen. I got one, and only one to actually move. But now I’m batting
.000
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Managed to move a mailbox into correct position. But just one time. I’ve not
managed to repeat the process yet.
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do. I move the VO
cursor so that it is focused on Inbox, and ensure that the Mouse cursor is also
focused, and then drop. Nothing. The folder will not move.
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Yes, I make sure that the mouse cursor is also positioned at the same point as
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appear to be correctly connected to a single account.
I wonder if there is somewhere that sorting is being treated as in groups, and
via creation date rather than alphabetical?
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Ar-har, mayties! Avast, ye squabs, and walk the plank!
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HOw would I know?
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Definitely imapp.
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Tim, it’s IMAPP on the Mac, as well. So not sure what your suggestion means.
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that road.
And no guarantee that later additions to the mailbox would not mimic what is
currently happening...
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E.T., yes, I’ve been considering that, as well. Would save me from hitting the
bottle.
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E.T., To get the badge in the dock…
Mail settings, general, look for something like dock count and then select
unread mail in the list.
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, again empty.
Irritating, and I want to make it go away. Any idea how I managed to turn on
this beast?
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, and be still, my heart, was now in its proper location.
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And actually I was able to disappear it while I was reconstructing all my
folders last night.
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I seem to accidentally insert rows with Control+downarrow and columns with
control+rightarrow.
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Okay, that is definitely a problem I’m having at times, coming from the Windows
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On Sep 23, 2019, at 06:26, Phil Halton wrote:
The command for inserting rows and columns is the option key plus the arrow
nav back on. It’s a
bit irritating to have to switch in off and on constantly. Is there any setting
that will automatically disable quick nav when there’s a form field in focus?
Sort of like the auto forms mode in JAWS.
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John,
To make sure I understand, I should have either single key nav on, or quick nav
on, but not both?
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On Sep 24, 2019, at 05:56, John Panarese wrote:
It’s probably that you turn the single key Quick Nav on or
Jonathan,
Yes, it’s very likely that my having single letter navigation turned on that is
messing things up for me.
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Okay, I admit I was once told how to read from the current cursor position to
the end of a document, but forgot. Can anyone toss me a keystroke combo?
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Julie,
Thanks. That worked.
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Slide to type will anticipate words as you drag your finger across the
keyboard. You don’t lift your finger to select the letter, you just continue to
drag around your desired letters and the word magically occurs. Have not tried
it yet, but that’s the hype.
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Donna,
Slide typing is a very sighted thing. It would allow sighted users to type even
faster. They can see where the next letter is located, and drag around to
create words without lifting their finger. I’ve not tried it yet, but it sounds
difficult to me.
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Donna,
No insult taken. I’m a very experienced iPhone user. Have been using Touch
typing for years. I’ll have to give that slide typing a test-drive, in any case
since now the gauntlet has been thrown (-*.
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Tim,
Well, I sure manage to come up with the weird ones, don’t I?
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But, Phil…don’t you first have to find the status bar before you can do a
three-finger upward swipe to open the Control Center? Since I found the status
bar in the first place, it makes no sense to then open the Control Center. It’s
a Catch-22.
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Confirmed. iOS 13.1.2 has a larger (or at least easier to locate) Status Bar.
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