Hi, Chad,
If you're using Lion, just arrow to the conversation in the list that you want
to read, then press tab. VO and arrow up and down, and you'll hear numbers
followed by the messages in the conversation.
Teresa
On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:52 PM, chad baker wrote:
> hi guys in mail how do i ge
When using a stand Apple keyboard a person can do vo shift end key to
get to the bottom of a list window or text, and to the top with vo
shift home key. How does a person do that with a laptop keyboard? A
friend of mine has such a machine and I have not clue as to how he
can do this same
Hi,
I think I'll end up with 3 or 4 basic activities. One will be the default
settings with one or two things changed that I have all the time. One will be
for navigation, where I'll have quick nav turned on, single letter enabled, and
so on, which will run by default in all browsers and in all
There is still the question about sorting your messages.
If you sort your messages by date in 1 order, messages in conversations are
sorted in reverse. For example, if all your messages are sorted in ascending
order, expand a conversation and the messages in that conversation are sorted
in desce
Does grade two input work with Lion? My download of Lion is proving a little
difficult yet.
On 23 Jul 2011, at 02:11, carolyn Haas wrote:
> Hey David:
> Had no idea! Wonderful! Thank you.
>
> Carolyn
> On Jul 22, 2011, at 6:31 PM, David Tanner wrote:
>
>> Well, go to your settings for Braille
Hi,
I thought it worth commenting on a couple of the new features in Lion.
Firstly, I haven't seen much coverage of the new support for ARIA Landmarks and
live regions. These additions give us two extra really powerful features on
many newer websites and web apps. Safari seems to support these
hi how do you uninstall a voice i went back to the vo utility
i unchecked the voice
it still shows up
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I wonder if this was actually intentional. Chord-g will let you switch between
either contracted or uncontracted braille. This allows people to use
contractions, but in the end it just seems to over complicate things if you
have to switch between the two while typing.
On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:22 PM
If you want to go back to SL, you will have to reinstall and you will (I'm
quite certain) loose that recovery partition. Of course since you purchased
Lion, you could always download it again in the future. It is unfortunate some
are having problems, but for me things have been pretty smooth. I
Hi,
its VO shift FN left arrow to go to the top and VO shift FN right arrow to go
to the bottom of a window.
Ricardo Walker
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On Jul 23, 2011, at 3:43 AM, Thomas McMahan wrote:
> When using a stand Apple keyboard a person can
YOu can change that in the viewing tab of mail preferences, and yes I like it
the previous way also.
On Jul 23, 2011, at 4:14 AM, Shen wrote:
> There is still the question about sorting your messages.
> If you sort your messages by date in 1 order, messages in conversations are
> sorted in rever
I wholeheartedly agree with Chris here. Calm down, folks. If there's an issue,
first check if there's a solution or workaround for the thing, if not, ask a
question here, after the frustration has settled, and if that doesn't help,
write a polite letter to Apples Accessibility team. I've got a c
Hi Shen and all,
The sorting of conversations can be toggled in Preferences, actually. Look at
the bottom of the view tab for "Show Most Recent Message at the Top." Uncheck
that and you'll get the old behavior.
Best,
Zack.
On Jul 23, 2011, at 1:14 AM, Shen wrote:
> There is still the question
Hi there.
Currently, i only have one activity set up and that is for social networking
apps that are in English and where i know i will only write in English, such as
Skype and Yorufukurou. Here i have an activity with an english voice as a
default instead of a swedish one. This makes use of di
Yes, the one thing that I have noticed is that it keeps saying Safari Busy when
I go to logoff of my banking website. I didn't have this problem before.
Chris
On Jul 22, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Quinn Haberl wrote:
> Just wondering if anyone else out there notice that there are a lot of
> witches with
Hi,
Let me also add that for every major upgrade of a program or an operating
system, especially if you add a lot of new features, there's bound to be new
bugs as well. I wouldn't dream of ever downgrading, despite the fact that i can
see some bugs, or things that are different from the way i wo
Hello Allison,
Any voices that are not showing up can be reactivated by going into VoiceOver
Utility, Speech, and clicking on the Default Voice popup menu. Select
Customise, and you'll find a table with all the voices. I think you'll find
that your missing voices have become unchecked in the ta
Hello Thomas,
On a laptop keyboard, you get the missing Home End, Page Up and Page down by
using the FN key with the arrow keys.
Cheers,
Anne
On 23 Jul 2011, at 09:43, Thomas McMahan wrote:
> When using a stand Apple keyboard a person can do vo shift end key to get to
> the bottom of a list
On the other hand, if we didn't pounce on a new operating system the day it
came out, but rather waited until som bug fixes came along, how would we know
what bugs needed to be fixed? How would we know how the system worked in
practice? Maybe we should demand that there were public betas of the
agree activities are good, but pealse dont joke... jaws scripts are
extremely more powerful than that! look at what is possible to do in
word excell with jaws command and compare what yuou cannot do in
number and pages... vo has a lot more to catchup...
On 23 Lug, 03:56, Zachary Kline wrote:
> Hi
Hello.
This whole discussion about live regions and the like starts to make me wonder
a bit. What are live regions and what are they supposed to do for us? I know
they are a part of the "area" or how it's spelled thing, but what are they
doing and why would we want them. This doesn't apply only
Hello,
Since Apple has introduced install apps and os-updates from the internet, we
don't need a dvd.
This is good but , gives sometimes problems about accessibility.
I mean: we can't decide before restart, with vo-support, what to do after
reboot.
We also can't hear when it's time to press the
Hi guys,
I've been forced to admit defeat and ask for help!
I'm finally starting to get my head around lion, well.. I think anyway. lol.
The 1 area I can not! get strait in my head is mail, I just seam to go in
circles with it. much to my self disgust I've had to switch back to classic
view fo
William,
The mac does make a sound every time it starts, so there is that queue so
you can know when to hold down certain commands to boot from CD's, external
drives, etc. I don't see any need to make another VO command, especially
since there's the startup disc option in system Preferences.
OK, this is totally awesome. Have any of you all who use external USB drives
to store your Time Machine backups noticed what Lion now no longer does?
Remember how before if the drive wasn't plugged in how it would every so often
keep nagging you, saying it couldn't complete the backup? Well n
Or Why not just make them options in the standard shutdown dialog? Maybe they
could put in an advanced button that opens up a dialog with the options so that
some one doesn't press one by accident and reck their computer.
Best,
Erik Burggraaf
Introducing the Ebony consulting announcements list
Hi all
before I upgrade to mac o s x 10.7 I used to press the option key with up and
down arrow to move from top to botom and versversa. But this comand seems no
longer available. Is there an alternitive?
kind regards.
ahmed.
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Does Anyone know why I'm not getting the usual "connect to windows or mac"
message when I connect an external drive to fusion under lion? does this work
for anyone else?
whenever I connect an external drive via usb, it automatically connects to my
mac. I'm not sure if that's because fusion has
how can i find lion in the appstore?
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Go to the mac app store, not the app store in iTunes. then do a search for osx
lion, that's what I did.
You'll need to have snow leopard 10.6.8 downloaded before you can get get it,
so make sure you do a software update before you install it.
On 23 Jul 2011, at 13:56, Hayri Tulumcu wrote:
> ho
Hi all,
Speaking of Skype, in SL, when someone called, I was immediately taken to the
answer button and thus able to quickly answer a call. In Lion, I find that I
hear VO say "Answer window" but cannot actually find the answer button, so have
been unable to answer calls. Have others experienc
Hi Ahmed,
you can press control+option with home to go to the first item in the table and
end to go to the last option.
If you're using a MacBook, you'll need to use fn+left arrow for home and
fn+right arrow for end.
On 23 Jul 2011, at 13:51, Ahmed Alomran wrote:
> Hi all
> before I upgrade to
He daniel, erik and others,
Daniel, perhaps you are right, sounds logic but, why if you need to choice an
option at startup with the arrow keys (without vo-support)?
e.g if you want to install linux/windows on a external partition or you want to
boot a linux live-cd?
I don't know if this kind of
That could be part of your issue. You didn't upgrade. I would wonder if
the version you're running of Skype is fully Lion ready. I actually
upgraded and don't know why so many say they're having issues. I personally
don't mind the new interface at all. It takes a little getting used to, but
Hi Donna,
In all seriousness, I would recommend upgrading to Skype 5.x. 2.8 is or soon
will be obsolete, and the problems can be worked around and aren't as
frustrating as some people make them out to be. Unfortunately, I've been using
Skype 5 for months, so don't have an answer for you as far
Hi,
Are you using FUsion 3.1.3? If so, this is indeed the newest version, and I
don't know why your USB drives should be acting up. Mine haven't since the
upgrade, and I've used them successfully with both my mac and VM.
Best,
Zack.
On Jul 23, 2011, at 5:53 AM, Gary Readfern-Gray wrote:
> Does
William,
Holding down the letter C at startup will always boot from a CD, and the
list that appears when you hold down the option key always starts with your
actual internal hard drive, just to give you a starting point to memorize so
you can boot from things with VO support.
-Original Mess
Hi Zack,
Yeh, I'm using 3.1.2 so that's probably it. Is there a way to update in the
program or do I get 3.1.3 from their website?
On 23 Jul 2011, at 14:14, Zachary Kline wrote:
> Hi,
> Are you using FUsion 3.1.3? If so, this is indeed the newest version, and I
> don't know why your USB drive
Hi Gary,
I would check for updates under the VmWare FUsion menu, though I'm surprised
automatic updates haven't already asked you about 3.1.3. Did you perhaps turn
those off? I don't myself, so updated when it first came out.
Hope this helps,
Zack.
On Jul 23, 2011, at 6:21 AM, Gary Readfern-Gra
In data Sabato 23 Luglio 2011 6.13.35, David Tanner
ha scritto:
How much of the problems that people are having is caused because the
OS is new, and things are done a bit different and it is too soon to
have learned the new ways of doing things in the new OS. There a
large majority of those w
Actually, whether I should upgrade was one of the things I've been wondering.
Good to hear that someone likes the current version, I had heard mostly about
people having problems. And, if I can't answer calls, I may have no other
choice. :)
Thanks for the feedback.
Donna
On Jul 23, 2011, at
Thanks, Zack. What you're saying makes sense. I actually didn't realize how
old my version was until I checked the number before posting my message.
Again, it's good to hear a positive user experience for the current Skype.
Best,
Donna
On Jul 23, 2011, at 9:09 AM, Zachary Kline wrote:
> Hi D
Zack,
Thanks a bunch. I don't specifically remember turning automatic updates off,
but I'm now downloading the latest update. Here's hoping that my usb support
comes back.
On 23 Jul 2011, at 14:23, Zachary Kline wrote:
> Hi Gary,
> I would check for updates under the VmWare FUsion menu, though
Well said, massimo.
Donna
On Jul 23, 2011, at 9:24 AM, Massimo wrote:
> In data Sabato 23 Luglio 2011 6.13.35, David Tanner
> ha scritto:
>> How much of the problems that people are having is caused because the OS is
>> new, and things are done a bit different and it is too soon to have learne
Hi all,
I don't believe that Acapela is available in the App Store. I purchased it from
Origin Instruments. I have had to reinstall Acapela multiple times due to my
Mac crashing. I hope I won't have to do that again. I'm not even sure how to do
that. Any ideas? Thank you for any assistance you
Wow, Haven't used it yet, but personally I like the look of the new Skype.
Thanks Chris and Zack for suggesting the upgrade.
Cheers
Donna
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Hi all,
I've noticed that when I start an app in Lion it kind of disappears after a few
second, and I have to go to the doc to get it back. Any idea why this is
happening and how to keep apps that I'm working on open so that I can command
tab between them?
Thanks,
Naama
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Hi Kari,
Well, like you, this has been bugging me but here's what I'm doing at the
moment.
In 3-column layout, you've got your mailbox table on the left, Your messages
table in the middle and a table containing all the messages in a conversation
on the right.
1. find the mailboxes table. I no
Cool, thanks, I knew it was a function key involved somewhere, now
will relay it to him if he hasn't already figured out.
On Jul 23, 2011, at 5:49 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
Hi,
its VO shift FN left arrow to go to the top and VO shift FN right
arrow to go to the bottom of a window.
Ricard
no, i mean turning the volume up or down without effecting voiceover or other
system sounds.
cheers
On 23 Jul 2011, at 03:52, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> You mean like turn up voiceover without turhning up the rest of the system,
> or vice versa? Please be a teeny bit more specific.
>
Hi Naama,
I have no idea what is going on here. My apps always stay open the same way as
they did in SL. I can't even begin to speculate on what might be going on, I'm
afraid. Can you try and describe the symptoms in more detail, please? What
happens when you command-tab for instance? ARe y
Thank you, will relay this along then, maybe one day he'll get in
here and can ask questions of his own. Not only is he a new Mac
user, he's never played with a computer since the 80s. Things have
changed since then slightly.
On Jul 23, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
Hello Thoma
aha, unfortunately, after going to input sources tab and interacting with the
table, i see a list of languages but they are not lab led.
cheers
On 23 Jul 2011, at 04:02, Braille wrote:
> It requires several steps.
>
> 1. add a new language input.: by going to preference, language and text, and
Hi Joseph,
I'm not sure what's going on here either. In my Input Sources tab the table
contains two columns, one for checkboxes and the other for sources. All the
languages have labels, starting with Afghan.
Best,
Zack.
On Jul 23, 2011, at 7:21 AM, joseph wrote:
> aha, unfortunately, after goi
Hi,
Well, I must admit, I'm tending to leave a load of pages I check regularly in
Safari open all the time now and quite like the feature. I think cmd-w is a
keystroke we might need to get into the habit of using in Safari. I'm sure the
option will be there soon if it isn't now, but cmd-w will
Hello,
Ok, I shall try to be more specific.
I generally have mail, yorufukurou and finder open and I can command tab
between those.
Until I upgraded, any other app that I opened, could be also command tabbed to.
Now, no matter which app I open, disappears after even a second of me not being
focu
Hi,
I must admit it took me a while to come to terms with the new Skype, but think
I'm there now. The trackpad is definitely my friend on this one!
On 23 Jul 2011, at 14:31, Donna Goodin wrote:
> Actually, whether I should upgrade was one of the things I've been wondering.
> Good to hear that
Hi David,
Glad to hear this. Can you say more about how you use the trackpad in Skype?
TIA,
Donna
On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:33 AM, David Taylor wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I must admit it took me a while to come to terms with the new Skype, but
> think I'm there now. The trackpad is definitely my friend on
Hi,
Qyite simple really. I touch on the left hand side of the trackpad to get to
the source list, and interact with it. I can then look at what I have in there
and select whatever I want. I then stop interacting and touch on the right hand
trackpad to get either to the HTML area or the contact
Same here. Had to force quit then reformat the source volume then it went well.
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
Skype name:
barefootedray
Facebook:
facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
On Jul 22, 2011, at 10:27 PM, louie wrote:
> Ray I had the same
Lion is different but I'm getting used to it. It seems to read more in some
cases and less in others. In Syrinx, I used to be able to move up and down the
messages table and it would just speak what had been written. Now VO announces
that it is a mention, retweet and so on. Thats a little anoyin
Hi All,
I've read some posts on list from people here who don't really want their
windows restored to the way they were, particularly in Safari. While I don't
know of a way to stop individual apps from acting this way, there is a global
preference to do so for all of them. The new General pane
This check box is broken.
I've tried it, and it doesn't have any baring.
Chris.
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To:
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 10:47 AM
Subject: For Those WHo Don't Want Window Restoration
Hi All,
I've read some posts on list from people here who don'
Hi Chris and All,
Very odd. I just tried a test with Safari, opening and quitting and reopening
again, and the checkbox worked as intended, and the homepage came up with no
extra tabs or windows open.
Best,
Zack.
On Jul 23, 2011, at 7:51 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> This check box is b
Okay, where in the voiceover utility do you go to get the additional voices?
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Hi,
I don't particularly care for this behaviour either so I did some research.
The method Zack mentioned in the General System Pref works great although the
first time I unchecked that box, it did not do what it was supposed to. I had
to also change the number of Recent Applications in the G
Hi Tim,
I'm not sure why you'd need to make that sort of recent items change. I
didn't, and all it took was an initial launch, quit, and relaunch of Safari for
it to work as intended.
Best,
Zack.
On Jul 23, 2011, at 8:05 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I don't particularly care for this behav
Hi Zack,
I'm not sure either. As mentioned by someone else here though, that checkbox
does not always apply the change. There is a thread in Apple Discussions where
sighted users have noted similar inconsistency with that option. I just
mentioned it as an option for those whose didn't work t
I haven't upgraded yet, but when you want to delete an entire conversation, can
you just hit delete on it, even if it's not expanded?
Thanks,
Caitlyn
On Jul 21, 2011, at 8:36 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> No no no no no. Hit right arrow and left arrow to expand or collapse. Not
> vo+
Yes, you can hit the delete key, and the conversation is gone. Also, you can
delete individual messages within a conversation, even within the preview area.
Teresa
On Jul 23, 2011, at 8:21 AM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:
> I haven't upgraded yet, but when you want to delete an entire conversation,
>
On my end, it sees everything as a mention, regardless of tweet-type. I've
switched back to the night owl accordingly. Also, it seems to be up to its old
DM quirk again.
On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:44 AM, Kevin Mattingly wrote:
> Lion is different but I'm getting used to it. It seems to read more in
Open the VO utility, find the Speech tab and tab over to voices popup. VO space
on that, and arrow down to custom… select that, and you're presented with a
list of all voices available, including those from Apple proper. Arrow up and
down through the list, until you locate one you like, tab ove
Hi all,
In the menu bar while in safari, go to the history menu. In there, there is an
item that says reopen all windows from last session. Uncheck that, and Safari
will no longer reopen windows when you quit it.
Brianna
On Jul 23, 2011, at 11:10 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> Hi Zack,
>
> I'm
Thanks, Shameless. there are times when I'm just not tuned in to it. Will give
it a go.
On 2011-07-23, at 11:51 AM, Shameless FanGirl wrote:
> Open the VO utility, find the Speech tab and tab over to voices popup. VO
> space on that, and arrow down to custom… select that, and you're presented
That is really odd. I would call apple and see if they have any suggestions.
after you reboot your machine at first and maybe repair disk permissions
although I'm not sure how that would have anything to do with it. Let us know
what happens.
On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:26 AM, Naama Shang wrote:
>
I do it a little differently now and I think easier. First of all, I have
created hotspots for the mailboxes table and messages table, that makes it
easier to find them. Secondly, when you are on a conversation, simply hit tab.
This will bring you into a content area and you can use vo+up and
Hi everyone,
I just tried to add voices and it worked. I'm downloading the Spanish voice
Monica since the AAcapela voices have gone on the blink. To add more voices
just follow these steps. I cannot take credit for this. I read this on this
list from someone.
1. Open System Preferences and tab
Chadic in the "accessibility," section of the General pane in Syrinx'
preferences. I believe there are check boxes there which allow date and type of
tweet to be read or not.
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I never look for accessibility in application preferences but I think I'm going
to have to start. The suggestion you made worked out fine. I unchecked the
tweet type and whala, it was just like it used to be. Does anyone know of any
other default apps that come on the Mac that has accessibility
Dave, somebody reported on this list that having "live regions" checked in the
vo utility web navigation area caused them to have "safari busy" messages all
the time. At least, that is what I thought they said. Are you finding then,
that this is not the case?
Mary
Mary Otten
motte...@gmail.com
Hello Allison,
If you have to reinstall your Acapela voices, you'll probably have to change
the permissions on the Preferences folder at root level. I had to change them
all to be Read and Write so that I could activate the Acapela voices.
The next time I repaired permissions, they were changed
How bout when you are in a list of messages, (say the sent folder), and need to
select from the second message down or the second to last message up? I'm told
that the command+shift+up and down we're used to using to do that doesn't work
anymore.
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
N
I'm not the person you're responding to, but it's checked here with no
discernible issues as well.
On Jul 23, 2011, at 12:45 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
> Dave, somebody reported on this list that having "live regions" checked in
> the vo utility web navigation area caused them to have "safari busy" m
vo+shift+home and end work just fine.
On Jul 23, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> How bout when you are in a list of messages, (say the sent folder), and need
> to select from the second message down or the second to last message up? I'm
> told that the command+shift+up and down we're u
That's helpful. I haven't been a big trackpad user in the past, so I probably
wouldn't have thought to do that.
Best,
Donna
On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:38 AM, David Taylor wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Qyite simple really. I touch on the left hand side of the trackpad to get to
> the source list, and interact
Hi, Ray,
You can hold down shift and up and down arrows to do this kind of selecting.
That's the only way I've found.
Teresa
On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:06 AM, Chris Westbrook wrote:
> vo+shift+home and end work just fine.
> On Jul 23, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>
>> How bout when you
I think you hit on the problem, and I still have messages to read, so perhaps
someone said this. Visibility seems to affect what shows up in the item
chooser. Go to the top of a problem page and try it. Remember the number of
items and some of the itemsthe in the list. Then go to the bottom and
Hi, all,
Has anyone worked with assigning Braille keys yet in Lion? I was able to assign
a few keys, but the command-b option for inputting the Braille keys doesn't
seem to recognize most of my key-presses on the Focus 40 Blue. Any ideas? I'll
be emailing this to accessibility at Apple, I'm afr
Hey. Check out my post a day and a half ago about using mail with activities, I
provide a good example there. Basically, you can set up hot spots to take you
to the different parts of the mail view, and thanks to activities those hot
spots only work within mail, making hot spots much more useful
Hi,
I wonder if activities are exportable? Also i wonder where they get saved and
if the operation of VO could be sluggish if you had many activities.
/Krister
23 jul 2011 kl. 19:33 skrev Austin Seraphin:
> Hey. Check out my post a day and a half ago about using mail with activities,
> I provid
I'm having the same problem with my Braillino. I've let Apple know about this
because it's driving me insane.
Cheers,
Anne
On 23 Jul 2011, at 19:31, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> Hi, all,
>
> Has anyone worked with assigning Braille keys yet in Lion? I was able to
> assign a few keys, but the com
I've noticed that terminal has begun truncating lines. If I use Vo-L I can hear
the line, or if in an editor I can arrow up and down and hear it sometimes, but
I wondered if anyone else has experienced this. I made sure I have the window
at full size, and the program not in full screen. has anyo
Hello,
Yes, you and I are having the same issue. Whenever I open Safari, I prefer to
have only my hope page open. But for some reason, it is now opening all the
pages I had open the last time I quite Safari. As far as I can find, there is
no setting to change that. The other little quirk I have
Dear AUstin,
Can you provide a concrete example of what happens when a line is truncated?
It's easier to understand if I know what you're hearing, so to speak. I
haven't noticed much odd in Terminal myself, but I don't use it all that
regularly.
Best,
Zack.
On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:45 AM, Austin
Hi, Guys. I am wondering if there is any significance between Carbon Copy
Cloner and SuperDuper. Obviously, one is free and one costs $26. But do both
have the smart backup feature?
I'm trying to figure which to get, but I really want the smart backup feature
so my backups to a USB drive won't t
I'm waiting, too. For now, at least. My husband downloaded Lion yesterday.
It looks tempting, but I'm still undecided myself. The new voices look nice,
some of them, anyway, single letter nav looks nice, too, and some other stuff,
but mail seems nightmarish.
Think I'll wait til the update m
Could you just use Shift up arrow with numpad commander turned on? That's what
I do now with snow leopard.
On Jul 20, 2011, at 1:03 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Well, I'm sad to say that the Option Down arrow command that used to move you
> to the top and bottom of the message list is
I wouldn't call mail nightmarish at all. It took some time getting used to but
now it is quite manageable. But there is no harm in waiting either.
On Jul 23, 2011, at 2:12 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:
> I'm waiting, too. For now, at least. My husband downloaded Lion yesterday.
> It looks temp
Hello Austin,
Where can I liston to your podcast regarding activities?
TIA!
Dan
On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:33 AM, Austin Seraphin wrote:
> Hey. Check out my post a day and a half ago about using mail with activities,
> I provide a good example there. Basically, you can set up hot spots to take
> y
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