Lion: imap mailboxes being read as blank

2011-07-21 Thread Brett C.
I have a couple of gmail imap accounts. In the list of mailboxes, the name of the accounts are read in the list of inboxes, however when I navigate to the bottom of the column of mailboxes to access the other folders, VoiceOver just says "blank collapsed" instead of the account name. Is anyone

Re: performance issues in Mail being reported - wide spread?

2011-07-21 Thread Shen
Hello, I am also experiencing sluggishness with Mail. Especially when I am arrowing up and down the messages table, sometimes it takes VoiceOver 2 seconds to respond. The sluggishness is not always there, but is most definitely noticeable. I am also finding that the usual tab key is no longer wor

Re: Turning off and on VO speech

2011-07-21 Thread Georges Zaynoun
I am wondering if there is a command from the keyboard to toggle speech on and off without using the trackpad. Original message: Hi, Yup, You can turn the trackpad commander off by holding down control and option an placing 2 fingers on the trackpad and turning them counter clockwise. O

Re: conversations in mail

2011-07-21 Thread Shen
I think you and I are having the same issue. Although I specifically went to classic view. I normally have all my messages sorted in ascending order, oldest at the top and newest at the bottom. When I expand a conversation, for some reason, all the messages in that conversation are sorted in desc

Re: The lion sleeps tonight

2011-07-21 Thread James Malone
Once I learn it a bit, I'll probably do a general overview, opinions and thoughts. From what I'm hearing, it sounds great, but something that will be a bit of a cakewalk. Also, don't forget that this really is 10.7, and no updates have been posted yet. Still, we will see. On 7/21/11, Austin Seraph

Re: one bad thing I've found in mail

2011-07-21 Thread Shen
It looks like the only way to go to the top or bottom of the messages list is to use VO-Shift-Home and VO-Shift-End. It's too bad the jump command is no longer there. I prefer to use the jump command because at least I would stay in the same column. Using VO-Shift-Home and End, you jump to the v

Re: trying to download lion?

2011-07-21 Thread
I was told by a rep in the store that I would get an email. What the rep didn't tell me is that I had to go to apple.com/macosx/uptodate Notice the spelling. Once on this page you will need to fill in a form that will ask you for the date you bought your mac, the serial number, and your apple

Midi playback in lion

2011-07-21 Thread Missy Hoppe
Hello, all! Like many of you, I ended up installing Lion yesterday. Everything went surprisingly smoothly, and on the whole, I don't regret the update at all. I switched mail to the classic view for now, and once things slow down a bit on this list, I will probably transfer my membership to my gm

Re: conversations in mail

2011-07-21 Thread
YOu have to go change it in preferences, once you do this it will be the way you like it. Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com Sent from my IMac On Jul 21, 2011, at 2:37 AM, Shen wrote: > I think you and I are having the same i

VMWare Fusion and Lion

2011-07-21 Thread Emilio S. Hernandez
Hello everyone, Enjoying the lion discussion so far. Does anyone happen to know if VMWare works with lion? Thanks Sent from Emilio's iPhone. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries

What the heck is com.apple.doc.extra, and is there any way to make it go away?

2011-07-21 Thread Missy Hoppe
Hello, all. I completely forgot about the 1 other thing that's frustrating me with regards to lion. I suspect this might be part of what's slowing down boot-up times, but could be totally wrong about that, of course. Anyway, when the mac first starts up, I'm in this thing that says com.apple.doc.

Mail Impressions in Lion

2011-07-21 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi All, I wanted to give my impressions of the new OS X Mail, which I'm slowly coming to grips with. I've decided to force myself to use it in the new layout, and have actually had some success with it. To begin with, the VoiceOver Getting started guide suggests using it with the VO cursor, and

RE: What the heck is com.apple.doc.extra, and is there any way to make it go away?

2011-07-21 Thread Daniel Miller
Missy, I don't know what it is either, but it's really really annoying. Also, has anyone noticed that VO randomly won't tell you when it's on, and you have to press CMD-tab to get to the Finder before it will start speaking? I emailed apple accessibility yesterday, but haven't heard anything

Re: The lion sleeps tonight

2011-07-21 Thread Donna Goodin
Well, that is why I said at this point. But so far, I haven't changed my mind. The features you mentioned are nice, but not sure they outweigh the disadvantages I've seen so far. Again, JMO. Donna On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:22 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi Donna, > > What about activities? I

Re: Am I crazy, or is there now no way to view an attachment in mail?

2011-07-21 Thread Donna Goodin
Did that. *grin* Donna On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:28 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi donna, > > Are you using standard Mail or classic? You might want to revert to the > classic view. It might give you less trouble. > On Jul 20, 2011, at 11:29 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> OK, so I have another gri

sleepless night with activities

2011-07-21 Thread Yuma Decaux
Hey all, Jumping in here, cuz i'm in the middle of configuring all activities for all my applications in a logical fashion, and i have to admit that though it's a daunting task, i'm utterly grateful for the amount of time saving it's going to entail once all my custom gestures, shortcuts and ac

Re: sleepless night with activities

2011-07-21 Thread Dan
Hello Yuma, After you get it all done, please let us know how the different activities work and if you do or don't loose the settings. I started to play around with 2 activities that I now have set and so far, so good. In a few days, if things don't change or I lose my settings, I'll really get

Re: Mail Impressions in Lion

2011-07-21 Thread David Taylor
Hi, I'm playing with the new layout too. I just use Quick Nav a lot more than I used to in mail. I wonder if quite a few of the changes will make me default to having quick nav switched on most of the time now. I certainly like the way the preview is working for me as there are quite a few mess

Re: Turning off and on VO speech

2011-07-21 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
That "fourth from the right button on the keyboard," is also and more generally known as F10. It's a toggle that's native to OS10, that is, it mutes *EVERYTHING* from the sound card, including VO, Itunes, whatever. Hitting it again un-mutes it. Just wanted to chime in with that detail in case

Re: safari question in lion

2011-07-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I don't think so. They've seemed to totally revamp the downloads window, and frankly, I don't exactly like what they've done with it. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Kimberly thurman" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 4:54 PM Subject: Re: safari question in lion Doesn't comma

Re: sleepless night with activities

2011-07-21 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, Why not just export your settings and save them somewhere? On Jul 21, 2011, at 8:01 AM, Dan wrote: > Hello Yuma, > After you get it all done, please let us know how the different activities > work and if you do or don't loose the settings. I started to play around with > 2 activities that I

Re: safari question in lion

2011-07-21 Thread Ricardo Walker
Right, Now downloads is like a pop up. When your downloading something, stop interacting with the html content and go to the toolbar and interact. You will find the download button in here. Press it and the familiar downloads window will appear. I've set a hot spot on the download button to

Re: The lion sleeps tonight

2011-07-21 Thread Ricardo Walker
Ah. I've caught this thread in the middle. besides Mail, what bad experiences are you having? On Jul 21, 2011, at 7:52 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Well, that is why I said at this point. But so far, I haven't changed my > mind. The features you mentioned are nice, but not sure they outweigh th

Re: What the heck is com.apple.doc.extra, and is there any way to make it go away?

2011-07-21 Thread Ricardo Walker
It will probably just go away by itself. This is what happened for me at least. On Jul 21, 2011, at 6:07 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: > Hello, all. I completely forgot about the 1 other thing that's frustrating me > with regards to lion. I suspect this might be part of what's slowing down > boot-up t

Re: performance issues in Mail being reported - wide spread?

2011-07-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I was going to start another thread, but seeing you mention about sluggishness, I figured I'd go 'head and chime in. I hate! the new ITunes! May I add, I hate! the new ITunes, and oh, did I mention by chance? I hate! the new ITunes! I have probably about 12 thousand tracks all total in my li

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
What exactly is this new favorites bar thing supposed to do. I fiddled with it a bit and I see the check boxes for inbox, and for sent items, but nothing apparet is seeming to really happen when I check/uncheck these items. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Zachary Kline" To: Se

Re: performance issues in Mail being reported - wide spread?

2011-07-21 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Chris, I can't speak to iTunes 10.4, seeing as I'm in the iOS 5 beta and thus using 10.5. I noticed sluggishness in the early 10.5 beta which was fixed in a subsequent release, so would expect this to also go away in time on the normal track too. In the meantime, I search for things to narr

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Yeah, Zack, please do, as I'm just not getting it. Like I said, I know there's a button under there to hid/show your mailbox list, but as for the other two check boxes, I'm not quite following what that's supposed to do. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Zachary Kline" To: Sent:

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-21 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi CHris, I think calling them checkboxes is a bit of a misnomer. They really let you quickly jump between mailboxes. Notice that when you have a draft in progress, the drafts mailbox is also listed there. Best, Zack. On Jul 21, 2011, at 5:33 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > What exactly

Re: conversations in mail

2011-07-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
No no no no no. Hit right arrow and left arrow to expand or collapse. Not vo+left or right, I'm saying, leave the vo keys out. In other words, once you're on the message thread, hit your right arrow by itself to expand. Then down arrow by itself to go to the next message in the thread. whe

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Well, you got lucky then. Must of us had to go in there and un-hide it, including myself. LOL! Chris. - Original Message - From: "Kliph&Sharrie" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 5:44 PM Subject: Re: one more bad thing in mail I didn't have to do this, it's right next to the fa

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Oh, Cliff. that's cause your quick nav's on. No wonder. Hit your left and right arrow keys together to turn that off. Then! try to left and right arrow by itself. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Kliph&Sharrie" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 5:55 PM Subject: Re: one more

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-21 Thread Donna Goodin
Basically, mailboxes like inbox, drafts, sent are already there. But for that to be a useful feature, there needs to be a way to add user-created mailboxes that one uses frequently. That's what I'm not finding. Best, Donna On Jul 21, 2011, at 8:34 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > Yeah, Z

Re: VO documentation for Lion?

2011-07-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
New finder? Someone fill me in? I've not seen anything different really with the Finder... or at least... nothing apparent that just jumps right out at me. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 6:08 PM Subject: VO documentation for Lion

Re: updates for Itunes and Iwork

2011-07-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Dono about IWorks, but man they really! broke the list view for larger libraries in ITunes. See my previous post for more detail. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 6:25 PM Subject: updates for Itunes and Iwork In all the Lion excit

Re: ICloud?

2011-07-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I could be wrong, but I heard that the ICloud wouldn't be totally ready until this Fall. Chris. - Original Message - From: Kliph&Sharrie To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 7:42 PM Subject: ICloud? Okay, when I bought my Mac back in june.

Re: VO documentation for Lion?

2011-07-21 Thread Ricardo Walker
No, What ever changes were made are visual in nature and don't effect the behavior a voiceover user on snow leopard expects. Most of that gesture based stuff is for sighted folks. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 21, 2011, at 8:40 AM,

Re: ICloud?

2011-07-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Speaking of I O S, it's not V5, be aware, but I hear there is! an I O S 4.X update for IPod/IPhone and IPad users. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Zachary Kline" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 7:59 PM Subject: Re: ICloud? Hi, iCloud is not yet ready for prime time. It wil

Re: updates for Itunes and Iwork

2011-07-21 Thread Ricardo Walker
Yup, I have over 15,500 songs in iTunes and I'm not a happy camper. lol Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 21, 2011, at 8:42 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > Dono about IWorks, but man they really! broke the list view for larger >

Re: question about keyboard commands

2011-07-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Easy! And no, this isn't a stupid question. When I was first starting last April, I had the same question. Here ya go. Home=FN+Up arrow End="FN+Down arrow Page Up=FN+Left Arrow Page Down=FN+Right Arrow. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Shannon Dyer" To: Sent: Wednesday, July

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-21 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Donna, This is one area where the new VO drag and drop feature comes in handy. What you can do is select a mailbox in the sidebar--note that you may need to interact with it in order to do this, and hit vo-comma. That marks an item for drag and drop. Then you interact the favorites bar and

Re: The lion sleeps tonight

2011-07-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
You wrote: I can't see any reason not to upgrade unless there is some important app you use that is not Lion compatible. I have quite a few apps on my system, and I've not found a single one yet that doesn't work. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" To: Sent: Wed

Re: single letter navigation

2011-07-21 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hey there. I would love to get my head around this quicknav thingy, but it just confuses me to no end. I know the basics of it, but i sorta forget i have it on and suddenly my arrows do strange things unless i turn the quicknav off. I assume there are ways to use the quick nav but well i just do

Re: The lion sleeps tonight

2011-07-21 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Ricardo, I'm finding VO to be *very sluggish. It seems like its speaking items a good half second after I initiate an action. I also don't seem to be able to close apps any more. When I think I've closed an app, if I try and open it later, VO says "App x is running in the background." I

Re: one new feature of Lion I absolutely love!

2011-07-21 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Wow! that sounds like a really cool feature, this must be investigated. Me, i played a bit with the drag and drop yesterday. Not so much that i know that it works in *all* situations, but i can say that it works for say dragging something from the finder to mail. I don't know the commands on key

Re: single letter navigation

2011-07-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
OK, here's what you do. Firwstly and foremost, bring up Safari. Now, there's a little gotcha to this. Let me see if I can explain this. The problem you're gonna have is Under the voiceover utility, there is a category called commanders. Now, you have a fourth tab under there called quick na

Re: one new feature of Lion I absolutely love!

2011-07-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Here ya go, cliff. http://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/features.html#accessibility Chris. - Original Message - From: "Kliph&Sharrie" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 8:56 PM Subject: Re: one new feature of Lion I absolutely love! Where can I get the documentation for new feate

Re: one bad thing I've found in mail

2011-07-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
It's just 4 fingers, big deal, and Carolyn's right. do vo+simmi colon and lock your keys if you must, then just remember to unlock them when done. Also for nuby's be aware, no, this is not the same as quick nav. Chris. - Original Message - From: "carolyn Haas" To: Sent: Wednesday,

Re: The lion sleeps tonight

2011-07-21 Thread Ricardo Walker
OMG Donna! What a horror show. It sounds like you might want to do a clean install of Lion. This isn't normal behavior at all. The only one of your experiences I've shared is the butchering of iTunes. I think this is more do to the new iTunes than Lion though. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gma

Re: how long to charge amacbook?

2011-07-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Generally, you're looking at around two to three hours to fully charge when almost drained. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Karen Lewellen" To: "list voiceover" Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 1:23 AM Subject: how long to charge amacbook? I realize most of you are playing in the

Re: how long to charge amacbook?

2011-07-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Yeah, coffee is bad for Macbooks. My friend found that out about a month ago the hard way. LOL! Thank god Norma had Warranty. LOL! Chris. - Original Message - From: "Isaac Obie" To: Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 1:28 AM Subject: Re: how long to charge amacbook? Hi Karen, I sh

Re: one bad thing I've found in mail

2011-07-21 Thread Donna Goodin
And I should do this because they, in their infinite wisdom took away the very simple, quick and effective Cmd-up and down arrow. Sorry, but that's crazy! Donna On Jul 21, 2011, at 9:09 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > It's just 4 fingers, big deal, and Carolyn's right. do vo+simmi colon

Re: The lion sleeps tonight

2011-07-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
OK, to turn the auto spell feature off, go to system preferences, then language and keyboard I think it's called. Then under there, go to the text tab. Down near the bottom you'll see the box to automatically correct spelling as you type. Uncheck that, hit command+W, and boom! You're all se

Lion Install File

2011-07-21 Thread Steve Vandecar
Hello, I have downloaded and installed Lion and everything is ok there but I didn't save the file so I could make a DVD. How do I re download the file? It doesn't seem to work from the app store. Thanks Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Mac

Re: Launchpad

2011-07-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Aa! Vo+Comma and period! I wondered how to do that! Nice! Chris. - Original Message - From: "Austin Seraphin" To: Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 1:50 AM Subject: Launchpad Ok so has anyone figured this out? I really hoped for an iOS-style home screen, and it definitely seems sim

Re: The lion sleeps tonight

2011-07-21 Thread Donna Goodin
Hey Ricardo, Well, I'm glad to hear that this isn't normal. I may see if I can do a clean install, and hopefully some of this will go a way. Do you happen to know how one can do a second install? I didn't make a DVD, so the executable install app is now gone. Thanks, Donna On Jul 21, 2011,

Re: Launchpad

2011-07-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Could you not hit escape to get out of Launchpad? Chris. - Original Message - From: "Marc Workman" To: Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 2:25 AM Subject: Re: Launchpad After playing with this for a bit, there seem to be some accessibility problems. Though, that said, this doesn't str

Re: Midi playback in lion

2011-07-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Hi Missy, I am having a good morning actually, thanks for commenting. Have you thought about trying to use Garage Band to play your midi files? by far and away, it works perfectly! It takes a lot of getting used to, I won't deny it, but once you get the hang of it, it's the best thing since w

Re: VMWare Fusion and Lion

2011-07-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
What I wonder is, have they fixed the issue of not being able to install XP under BootCamp? I highly doubt it. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Emilio S. Hernandez" To: Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 5:23 AM Subject: VMWare Fusion and Lion Hello everyone, Enjoying the lion dis

Re: What the heck is com.apple.doc.extra, and is there any way to make it go away?

2011-07-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Yes, on your ITunes thing! I flippen! hate it! Chris. - Original Message - From: Daniel Miller To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 7:16 AM Subject: RE: What the heck is com.apple.doc.extra, and is there any way to make it go away? Missy,

Re: Launchpad

2011-07-21 Thread Donna Goodin
Escape to exit did not work for me. Donna Donna Goodin, M.A., Ph.D. Dissertation and Career Coach Phone: 734-506-8579 Email: do...@yourdonedissertation.com do...@idealpathcoaching.com Web: httP://www.yourdonedissertation.com http://www.idealpathcoaching.com On Jul 21, 2011, at 9:21 AM, Christopher

Re: The lion sleeps tonight

2011-07-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
And I thrid, that ITunes is being a pain in a place where the sun don't shine. Chris. - Original Message - From: Ricardo Walker To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 9:12 AM Subject: Re: The lion sleeps tonight OMG Donna! What a horror show.

Re: Lion Install File

2011-07-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Can you not in the app store go to the store menu, then go under purchases? Chris. - Original Message - From: "Steve Vandecar" To: "Mac Vissionaries Vissionaries" Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 9:18 AM Subject: Lion Install File Hello, I have downloaded and installed Lion and ever

Re: how long to charge amacbook?

2011-07-21 Thread Tammy
Hi, Leave it on charge over night and you should be fine. hth Tammy From: Karen Lewellen Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 1:23 AM To: list voiceover Subject: how long to charge amacbook? I realize most of you are playing in the jungle with Lion, but if someone can tell me how long it takes to

Re: VMWare Fusion and Lion

2011-07-21 Thread Courtney Curran
Hi, VMware 2 doesn't seem to work, but Vmware 3 does work. But I do have a question about something with fusion 3. When I booted into my virtual machine under fusion 3, I got a message that my Vmware tools was out of date, and to click install. That's fine, but I left it in the installing state

Re: Launchpad

2011-07-21 Thread Mary Otten
I'm sorry to hear that launch pad does not work with VO. I had hoped that this would be the way to get access to applications which don't show their icons in the menu bar, such as the drop box. It seems like the next innovation for VO might be some way to use the track pad like you can on an I-d

all these issues

2011-07-21 Thread Ray Foret Jr
To speak frankly, all these issues I'm reading about, (especially the issues with mail) make me wonder now just whether or not I should pay $29.95 and upgrade to Lion or not. Could it quite possibly be that all these problems people are having result from trying to learn a new OS without having

RE: Launchpad

2011-07-21 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi, Launchpad does indeed work with VoiceOver. Where did you hear that it didn't? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 8:50 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re

Re: Launchpad

2011-07-21 Thread Mary Otten
Daniel, There was a post on this list from someone who said that launchpad doesn't seem to be a very useful tool for blind folks, and then he detailed some of his reasons. Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionarie

RE: Launchpad

2011-07-21 Thread Daniel Miller
Mary, Could you direct me to this post? I must have overlooked it when going through my thousands of messages. From what I've used of it, Launchpad can be quite useful, especially if you have over 100 apps on your mac like I do. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [ma

Re: Launchpad

2011-07-21 Thread Tammy
Hi, We’ve all tried it and had no luck getting things to work. Maybe you could tell us how to get it to work since you’ve obviously gotten it to? Thanks, Tammy From: Daniel Miller Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 9:53 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Launchpad Hi, Launchpad

Re: Launchpad

2011-07-21 Thread Ronald McEwan
That was one persons oppinion. I just turned on track commander, don't usually have it on, and went to LaunchPad. I was able to move around with my finger finding the app I wanted to launch and then double tab. It worked just fine. In the Journey, Ron On Jul 21, 2011, at 7:57 AM, Mary Ot

Re: Launchpad

2011-07-21 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Daniel, We are actually in the same thread that contained the first two posts on the topic of launch pad, one from Mark Workman and the one that originated the thread from I think Austin? Some of the problems mentioned are: no first letter navigation among apps no way to navigate away from the

Re: Launchpad

2011-07-21 Thread Mary Otten
Ok, so if you have a bunch of applications on your mac, I would think you'd want to organize those in the launch pad like you can with the IOS devices. It has been stated that drag and drop doesn't work in there, nor does the familiar double tap and hold to move an app. So how do you move apps?

Re: Launchpad

2011-07-21 Thread Ronald McEwan
Escape does indeed dismiss LaunchPad. In the Journey, Ron On Jul 21, 2011, at 8:04 AM, Mary Otten wrote: > Hi Daniel, > We are actually in the same thread that contained the first two posts on the > topic of launch pad, one from Mark Workman and the one that originated the > thread from I

RE: Launchpad

2011-07-21 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi, Yes, escape does indeed dismiss it. Also, give apple some time to publish the getting started guide for Lion with Voiceover, perhaps that will ease some of your concerns. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ro

Re: Lion Install File

2011-07-21 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, You should be able to go into the App Store, under the Purchases tab and then Interact with the Purchases Table. Locate your Lion purchase then navigate right to the Install button. After you enter your password, the instal will start and place the file in the Applications folder. HTH.

helpful VO MP3 files

2011-07-21 Thread Ronald McEwan
Please find attached documentation pointing to some useful tips for using VO with lion. In the Journey, Ron {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\cocoartf1138 {\fonttbl\f0\fswiss\fcharset0 Helvetica;} {\colortbl;\red255\green255\blue255;\red20\green77\blue230;} \paperw11905\paperh16837\margl1440\margr1440\

Re: Launchpad

2011-07-21 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Ok, pardon my total and utter ignorance here, but are we *really* supposed to be able to move applications around? After all, they are all placed in the same folder and the launch pad should reflect that folder, right? Or is there something obvious i have missed as usual? /Krister 21 jul 2011 kl

Re: conversations in mail

2011-07-21 Thread Chris Westbrook
I personally think dealing with conversations is more clumsy now. It used to be that all messages would open up when you hit enter on a conversation. I would read one message, hit delete, and the next message would basically start reading. Now, I have to go to the preview pane, read the messa

Re: Mail Impressions in Lion

2011-07-21 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi there. Could you please give an example of how you're using quick nav now compared to before? I have never gotten into that quicknav thing, even since the beginning of Snow leopard. Can't seem to get the hang of it. Maybe that it's true, that you can't teach an old dog new tricks.:-) /Krister

Re: Launchpad

2011-07-21 Thread Teresa Cochran
I'm inclined simply to use the dock instead of the launchpad, but I may still explore it and see how it works. Teresa On Jul 21, 2011, at 7:18 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Ok, pardon my total and utter ignorance here, but are we *really* supposed to > be able to move applications around? After

Re: Launchpad

2011-07-21 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi, THe Dock itself has some improvements in Lion as well, such as the reading of iOS-like badges and access to stacks in other modes than simply via a menu. I highly recommend it. Best, Zack. On Jul 21, 2011, at 7:32 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > I'm inclined simply to use the dock instead of th

Re: getting more voices for 10.7

2011-07-21 Thread Christopher Peppel
Hi there, Hate to ask, but does it cost anymore for the extra voices? As far as Lion goes, I think it is a matter of getting used to some of the changes. Chris On Jul 20, 2011, at 10:03 PM, David Tanner wrote: > Well, I got there by going to System Preferences and then to the Speech > setting

Re: getting more voices for 10.7

2011-07-21 Thread Teresa Cochran
Nope. I just downloaded eleven voices for free, including the English Indian one and the Scottish and Irish. Also, I downloaded Italian, since I'm learning some Italian songs. Very fun. :) They do take up quite a bit of space, however. Teresa On Jul 21, 2011, at 7:43 AM, Christopher Peppel wrote

drag and drop

2011-07-21 Thread Ronald McEwan
I cannot find the documentation on the new drag & drop. Can someone point me to the details not the overview that states you can do it? In the Journey, Ron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send ema

Re: all these issues

2011-07-21 Thread Ricardo Walker
In a word, No. lol. At least in my opinion. The mail issues are very real. You can get around most of them but issues they are. But besides mail, I don't think there's much to complain about. And keep in mind, one something as big as a new OS comes out, most posts are going to be people ne

Re: Launchpad

2011-07-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Is there a quick and easy way aside from the obvious of launching it from the application's folder, to bring up launch pad? Chris. - Original Message - From: "Zachary Kline" To: Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 10:34 AM Subject: Re: Launchpad Hi, THe Dock itself has some improvements

Re: Launchpad

2011-07-21 Thread Ricardo Walker
Yup, It works its just worthless. lol. Its just basically viewing apps in a grid view. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 21, 2011, at 9:57 AM, Mary Otten wrote: > Daniel, > There was a post on this list from someone who said that laun

Re: Launchpad

2011-07-21 Thread Ronald McEwan
Set it up as a commander option in which ever one you like. In the Journey, Ron On Jul 21, 2011, at 8:52 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > Is there a quick and easy way aside from the obvious of launching it from the > application's folder, to bring up launch pad? > > Chris. > >

Re: drag and drop

2011-07-21 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Ron, It's in the VO online help, under drag and drop. It was simply added there, it looks like. Mark what you want to drag with VO-comma, go to the place you want to put it, and place it with VO-period. You can place it before an item with VO-less-than-sign, or after with VO-greater-than.

Re: all these issues

2011-07-21 Thread Teresa Cochran
I think it's simply a matter of getting used to new ways of doing things, as happens with any change. I'm quite happy, even with mail. I like the new way of navigating it. It's more like navigating a webpage in Safari now. I know I can change it, but I'm going to keep using it this way and see i

RE: Midi playback in lion

2011-07-21 Thread Missy Hoppe
Hi there! I'd love to try that, but unfortunately, I've never gotten garage band to open a midi. it just won't do it; doesn't seem to recognize them at all. If you could please tell me what I'm missing, I'd really appreciate it. I'm still baffled with regards to what changed in quicktime or just

Re: VMWare Fusion and Lion

2011-07-21 Thread
working just fine over here Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com Sent from my IMac On Jul 21, 2011, at 4:23 AM, Emilio S. Hernandez wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Enjoying the lion discussion so far. > Does anyone happen to know

Re: helpful VO MP3 files

2011-07-21 Thread Mary Otten
Thank you, Ron, for posting the helpful demo files. I am impressed with the implementation of Samantha. I never thought I'd say that. She's never been a favorite of mine. I prefer male voices and still like Alex. But she didn't sound so angry on the demo you posted as she does on the I-devices o

Re: helpful VO MP3 files

2011-07-21 Thread Ronald McEwan
Samantha with the upcoming Ios 5 is much better also. In the Journey, Ron On Jul 21, 2011, at 9:16 AM, Mary Otten wrote: > Thank you, Ron, for posting the helpful demo files. I am impressed with the > implementation of Samantha. I never thought I'd say that. She's never been a > favorite

Lion has potential, but...

2011-07-21 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I will start by saying, at this given time, I see no reason for me to downgrade back to 10.6, however, I do have some initial thoughts. I am not exactly the most fond either of how Mail now works. It's ok, I recken, but it takes some getting used to. I don't think I can really be specific.

Re: The lion sleeps tonight

2011-07-21 Thread
Now how would one do a clean install of Lion? I have a friend who would like to do this, and I helped him burn lion to a DVD, now what does he do? Thanks. Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com Sent from my IMac On Jul 21, 2011,

Re: Lion has potential, but...

2011-07-21 Thread Krister Ekstrom
I haven't noticed anything that could be wrong with ITunes, other than that letter navigation in the browser seems to be broken. It has been so before. Was it a dealb breaker then? No it wasn't. Is it a deal breaker now? No it isn't. iTunes seems to be very sluggish sometimes, but then again, it

RE: Lion has potential, but...

2011-07-21 Thread Missy Hoppe
Hi! Thanks for sharing your first impressions. I don't use itunes; haven't quite figured that out yet, so I can't testify to the issues with that. I'm using mail just fine, although I confess that I did switch to classic view. It doesn't seem sluggish at all, but then again, I only have a

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