Hey Ricardo,

Well, I'm glad to hear that this isn't normal.  I may see if I can do  a clean 
install, and hopefully some of this will go a way.  Do you happen to know how 
one can do a second install?  I didn't make a DVD, so the executable install 
app is now gone.
Thanks,
Donna

On Jul 21, 2011, at 9:12 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> OMG Donna!  What a horror show.
> 
> It sounds like you might want to do a clean install of Lion.  This isn't 
> normal behavior at all.
> 
> The only one of your experiences I've shared is the butchering of iTunes.  I 
> think this is more do to the new iTunes than Lion though. 
> 
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> On Jul 21, 2011, at 9:02 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Hi Ricardo,
>> 
>> I'm finding VO to be *very sluggish.  It seems like its speaking items a 
>> good half second after I initiate an action.
>> 
>> I also don't seem to be able to close apps any more.  When I think I've 
>> closed an app, if I try and open it later, VO says "App x is running in the 
>> background."  I presume one has to close apps from the launchpad now or 
>> something, but that seems much more cumbersome than just being able to press 
>> Cmd-Q.
>> 
>> iTunes is *ungodly slow, honestly, it's as bad as being on a Windows 
>> machine.  And you don't seem to be able to scroll down through your list of 
>> songs any more, though this may be part of the speed issue.
>> 
>> Lastly, VO doesn't seem to track very well.  For example, when I open an 
>> app, I'm taken to the desktop, and have to perform a Cmd-tab to actually get 
>> myself into the app.
>> 
>> Lastly, I installed Samantha, but gave up on her.  I'm now back with 
>> Victoria.  Samantha was not indicating sentence endings at all.  If there 
>> was a period, she just went right on reading with no pause or inflection, as 
>> though the period wasn't even there.
>> As I've said, I was gone most of last night, so haven't had a ton of time to 
>> sort through things yet.  But those are some of the things I'm not liking at 
>> the moment.  As I think Zack said, hopefully there will be an update that 
>> will address some of these things.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> 
>> On Jul 21, 2011, at 8:28 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Ah.
>>> 
>>> I've caught this thread in the middle.  besides Mail, what bad experiences 
>>> are you having?
>>> On Jul 21, 2011, at 7:52 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Well, that is why I said at this point.  But so far, I haven't changed my 
>>>> mind.  The features you mentioned are nice, but not sure they outweigh the 
>>>> disadvantages I've seen so far.  Again, JMO.
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:22 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Donna,
>>>>> 
>>>>> What about activities?  I think the ability to create a voiceover profile 
>>>>> for individual apps is a really good feature.  And being able to navigate 
>>>>> the web with 1 letter navigation when using quick nav.  So instead of 
>>>>> pressing VO command H to go to the next heading for example, you can just 
>>>>> press the letter H.
>>>>> On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:51 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Bryan,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> At this point, the only reason I see for upgrading is the voices in 
>>>>>> other languages.  Just my opinion, of course.
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 20, 2011, at 6:40 PM, Brian Miller wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I haven't seen anyone say one way or the other whether or not one ought 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> download and install Lion... Can we be certain it is the best thing for
>>>>>>> those of us who use Voice Over?  What are the changes?  What are the
>>>>>>> benefits?  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm a little reluctant to just download Lion because it is there.  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What happens if I don't download it?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Brian Miller
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