Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Donna Goodin
I'm not viewing by conversation. Best, Donna On Jul 20, 2011, at 5:03 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hi DOnna, > I'm puzzled. I hear status just fine, whether unread or replied. I don't > have any idea why you shouldn't. What do you hear with a closed conversation > that has unread messages? >

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Odd. Even when I don't view by conversation I still hear replied statuses when arrowing up and down. I imagine I'd hear unread as well. Best, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 2:16 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > I'm not viewing by conversation. > Best, > Donna > > > On Jul 20, 2011, at 5:03 PM, Zachary Kl

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread
There is also a view messages by menu right next to the message list. So if you open this menu, you can check the categories that you want voice over to announce Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com Sent from my IMac On Jul 20

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread
Where do you adjust the conversation or thread view? Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com Sent from my IMac On Jul 20, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hi DOnna, > Very odd. WHen you say "status" are we talking about th

performance issues in Mail being reported - wide spread?

2011-07-20 Thread Jeff Bishop
Hello, People on Twitter are reporting major sluggishness issues in Mail and other areas. Are others seeing this? I upgraded this morning but then had to go to work so will play later this evening. I am just curious what others are seeing pertaining to this? Jeff -- You received this m

Re: performance issues in Mail being reported - wide spread?

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Jeff, I'm not seeing any major performance issues in Mail. It seems to work quite well, as does the whole OS. Best, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Jeff Bishop wrote: > Hello, > > People on Twitter are reporting major sluggishness issues in Mail and other > areas. Are others seeing this

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi, Check out the VIew menu for all those settings. Best, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote: > Where do you adjust the conversation or thread view? > Kliphton SR > (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 > (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com > Sent from my IM

RE: performance issues in Mail being reported - wide spread?

2011-07-20 Thread Jeff Bishop
HLLF is reporting that it has to do with the size of one's mail file. Do you have a large mail file? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Zachary Kline Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 2:21 PM To: macvisionaries@google

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Donna Goodin
It's in the view menu. Donna On Jul 20, 2011, at 5:19 PM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote: > Where do you adjust the conversation or thread view? > Kliphton SR > (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 > (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com > Sent from my IMac > > On Jul 20, 2011, at 3:55 P

Re: performance issues in Mail being reported - wide spread?

2011-07-20 Thread Donna Goodin
I am seeing some sluggishness. Best, Donna On Jul 20, 2011, at 5:19 PM, Jeff Bishop wrote: > Hello, > > People on Twitter are reporting major sluggishness issues in Mail and other > areas. Are others seeing this? I upgraded this morning but then had to go to > work so will play later this eve

Re: performance issues in Mail being reported - wide spread?

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Jeff, I don't know, but I doubt it's that large. All my messages are on an IMAP server, and I don't know if Mail downloads each one individually. I have around 500 in my Inbox at present. Best, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 2:23 PM, Jeff Bishop wrote: > HLLF is reporting that it has to do with

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Donna Goodin
Well, it gets weirder. I do hear reply status for messages I've replied to since upgrading, but not for messages that were migrated over. But I do not hear read or unread for either group. Best, Donna On Jul 20, 2011, at 5:17 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > Odd. Even when I don't view by conversa

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread
Another thing that has gone away is, instead of having to interact with the mailbox and message column, all I had to do is press tab to get to the message list from the mailbox list, it doesn't seem to let you do that anymore either. Interacting back and forth was kind of trouble some, and I li

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Unless I'm missing something, by default the mailboxes column is hidden. You can restore it and then should be able to tab as usual. Best, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote: > Another thing that has gone away is, instead of having to interact with the > mailbox and message

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Donna Goodin
The only way I could see my personal mailboxes was to switch back to classic view. Cheers, Donna Donna Goodin, M.A., Ph.D. Dissertation and Career Coach Phone: 734-506-8579 Email: do...@yourdonedissertation.com do...@idealpathcoaching.com Web: httP://www.yourdonedissertation.com http://www.idealpa

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi, I think there's a new concept of favorite mailboxes, but haven't explored it thoroughly yet. I'll let you know if I figure more out. Best, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 2:41 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > The only way I could see my personal mailboxes was to switch back to classic > view. > Cheers,

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread
How is this done? Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com Sent from my IMac On Jul 20, 2011, at 4:30 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > Unless I'm missing something, by default the mailboxes column is hidden. You > can restore it and the

conversations in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Chris Westbrook
This whole conversation business in mail doesn't seem to make sense anymore. It used to be that when I hit enter on a conversation all the messages would open up and I could just delete them one by one and here the next message. Now when I hit enter it just seems to read the last one. I know

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread
I didn't have to do this, it's right next to the favorites bar, your mail box list that is. Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com Sent from my IMac On Jul 20, 2011, at 4:41 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > The only way I could see my p

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi, There's a favorites bar above the messages column you can investigate. There's a button to let you show or hide the mailbox list. Best, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote: > How is this done? > Kliphton SR > (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 > (Marriage Blog) http

Re: conversations in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Chris, By default, conversations are sorted in reverse chronological order, newest message first. You can change this in the View menu I believe. I use left and right arrow to open and close conversations. Hope this helps, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Chris Westbrook wrote: > This who

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread
Strange thing is happening, in my in box the messages are being shown by conversation, but in my other mailboxes they are not. Any idea why? Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com Sent from my IMac On Jul 20, 2011, at 4:44 PM,

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
I imagine it's a per mailbox setting. I wouldn't know, since I don't use mailboxes all that much. Best, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 2:47 PM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote: > Strange thing is happening, in my in box the messages are being shown by > conversation, but in my > other mailboxes they are not.

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread
Also, arrowing to the right does not open my conversations. Hitting up and down arrow together does. Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com Sent from my IMac On Jul 20, 2011, at 4:48 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > I imagine it's a p

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Kevin Mattingly
I'm right there with you Donna. Gotta figure it out. Kev On Jul 20, 2011, at 5:04 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Just did that. And still no status is spoken. > Best, > Donna > > On Jul 20, 2011, at 4:55 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> Hi DOnna, >> Very odd. WHen you say "status" are we talking abo

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi, It sounds as if you're using QuickNav mode. I don't do that in Mail myself. Best, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 2:55 PM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote: > Also, arrowing to the right does not open my conversations. Hitting up and > down arrow together does. > Kliphton SR > (twitter) http://twitter.com/kl

VO documentation for Lion?

2011-07-20 Thread Mary Otten
I'd like to be able to read about VO and Lion before trying the download. I haven't seen anything on the Apple site. Am I missing it? Or is it not there yet? With all the new touch-based interactions, new finder etc, I think there must be some new ways of interacting between vo and the os, no?

RE: VO documentation for Lion?

2011-07-20 Thread Daniel Miller
Mary, The Quick Start Guide for VO doesn't seem to be up yet. When I pressed VO-H, and then went to Open Quick start Guide, I got a 404 page not found error. I'd give it a few days for them to point the link in VO to the correct page with the guide. -Original Message- From: macvisionarie

Re: VO documentation for Lion?

2011-07-20 Thread Mary Otten
The SL guide is still up on the Apple site itself; I guess the other one's not out yet. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

Re: conversations in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Chris Westbrook
Yea I see that now. It just seems weird that you have to deal with each message individually and there is no way to see all messages at once easily. Just have to get used to the new way of doing things. On Jul 20, 2011, at 5:46 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hi Chris, > By default, conversations

Re: conversations in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Chris, I believe there are shortcuts you might want to look into, such as cmd-shift-k to select all messages in a particular conversation. There are others in the View menu under the select submenu. Best, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Chris Westbrook wrote: > Yea I see that now. It jus

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Matthew Campbell
Hey Donna. Press command shift f to show or hide the mailbox list. Also, if you scroll down that huge amount of stuff in the view menu, it's there too. HTH. On 2011-07-20, at 5:41 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > The only way I could see my personal mailboxes was to switch back to classic > view. > Ch

updates for Itunes and Iwork

2011-07-20 Thread Mary Otten
In all the Lion excitement, people may have missed the updates to ITunes and IWork that came out today. Both applications can now be run full screen if you have Lion. No clue what bugs might have been fixed. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subs

The lion sleeps tonight

2011-07-20 Thread Brian Miller
I haven't seen anyone say one way or the other whether or not one ought to download and install Lion... Can we be certain it is the best thing for those of us who use Voice Over? What are the changes? What are the benefits? I'm a little reluctant to just download Lion because it is there. W

Re: trying to download lion?

2011-07-20 Thread matthew Dyer
CMD+a will take you to the apps folder. HTH. Matthew P.s. I have yet to pertchus lion as I do not have the funs a the moment. On Jul 20, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Tammy wrote: > What’s the best way to get to the aps folder? It’s in the doc but it appears > you can’t get there via that shortcut. >

getting more voices for 10.7

2011-07-20 Thread Ed Worrell
Hello, I was wundering if anyone knew where to find, the place to download the new voices for Lion. Thanks ED -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscrib

Re: getting more voices for 10.7

2011-07-20 Thread Matthew Campbell
Hi Ed. Go to you're VO utility and scroll down to the voices section. Next, find the popup button for the voices. Finally, press that button to open the popup and select the customize option. This will present you with a table that you can interact with. Press VO space to check or uncheck the vo

Re: getting more voices for 10.7

2011-07-20 Thread Brandon Misch
question is how do you remove those voices if you want to remove them later. On Jul 20, 2011, at 6:47 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: > Hi Ed. > Go to you're VO utility and scroll down to the voices section. Next, find the > popup button for the voices. Finally, press that button to open the popup

Re: getting more voices for 10.7

2011-07-20 Thread Matthew Campbell
Hi. Uncheck the checkbox in the table. On 2011-07-20, at 6:55 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: > question is how do you remove those voices if you want to remove them later. > > On Jul 20, 2011, at 6:47 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: > >> Hi Ed. >> Go to you're VO utility and scroll down to the voices sec

ICloud?

2011-07-20 Thread
Okay, when I bought my Mac back in june. The store rep told me that ICloud would be free for all those who bought lion. Is this true, and if so how do you set it up? Thanks. Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com Sent from my

Re: ICloud?

2011-07-20 Thread Matthew Campbell
Hi. It will be free accept that it's not out yet. It won't be out until the fall. On 2011-07-20, at 7:42 PM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote: > Okay, when I bought my Mac back in june. The store rep told me that ICloud > would be free for all those who bought lion. Is this true, and if so how do > you se

Re: ICloud?

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi, iCloud is not yet ready for prime time. It will be released in the fall, presumably along with iOS 5. Best, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 4:44 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: > Hi. > It will be free accept that it's not out yet. It won't be out until the fall. > > On 2011-07-20, at 7:42 PM, Kliph&S

question about keyboard commands

2011-07-20 Thread Shannon Dyer
I have sort of a stupid question. I'm using a MacBook, and don't have a home or an end key. Neither do I have page up or page down. I imagine there is some sort of key combo that will perform these functions. Can someone enlighten me? Shannon Are you a fan of women's music? If so, join me each T

Re: question about keyboard commands

2011-07-20 Thread Jeffrey Shockley
FN Left Arrow Home, FN Right Arrow End, FN Up Arrow Pageup, FN Down Pagedown. HTH, Jeffrey On Jul 20, 2011, at 8:01 PM, Shannon Dyer wrote: > I have sort of a stupid question. I'm using a MacBook, and don't have a home > or an end key. Neither do I have page up or page down. I imagine there is >

Re: The lion sleeps tonight

2011-07-20 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, If your a voiceover user, its a great deal for $30 in my opinion. We now have 1 letter navigation in the web browser, profiles you can set up for different apps. A boat load of new high quality voices for no extra charge. And I'm sure I'm missing some new features. I can't see any reaso

Re: getting more voices for 10.7

2011-07-20 Thread Brandon Misch
i see. but is there a way to uninstall the voices? just thought i would ask. On Jul 20, 2011, at 3:59 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: > Hi. > Uncheck the checkbox in the table. > On 2011-07-20, at 6:55 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: > >> question is how do you remove those voices if you want to remove th

Re: question about keyboard commands

2011-07-20 Thread Shannon Dyer
It does. Thank you so, so much for this. Shannon Are you a fan of women's music? If so, join me each Thursday from noon until three for the Eclectic Collection: a Celebration of Women In Music. Point your media player to: http://mojoradio.us/listen or www.mintfm.net On Jul 20, 2011, at 8:04 PM,

single letter navigation

2011-07-20 Thread chad baker
hi is there a way to do single letter navigation can't find it thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisio

RE: question about keyboard commands

2011-07-20 Thread
It's right here in your post. Use the function key with left arrow for home, right arrow for end, up arrow for page up, and down arrow for page down. Make sure you always hold the function key when doing this. Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real

Re: single letter navigation

2011-07-20 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, you activate it in VO utilities in the commander category. Select quick nav and then you will find the option. Remember, quick nav needs to be on to use it. hth under On Jul 20, 2011, at 8:20 PM, chad baker wrote: > hi is there a way to do single letter navigation can't find it > thank

additional voices?

2011-07-20 Thread
I still can't find the other voices, no pop up menu is appearing when I go to the voices tab in voice over utilities. What am I missing here? Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com (Marriage group) http://groups.google.com/group/c

Re: The lion sleeps tonight

2011-07-20 Thread Ray Foret Jr
And even in that case, all you need do is use CCC to make a bootable backup of your current HD volume to a USB drive, (make sure that the drive you choose can actually boot a Mac because there are some which cannot), and then, go right ahead and install Lion. Should you need to use an app which

RE: The lion sleeps tonight

2011-07-20 Thread Daniel Miller
Ray, You can quit the installer as soon as it starts. Once you quit, go to your applications folder, and the installer will be there. I myself totally forgot about that, so I installed thinking the installer would be there when finished, but no cigar. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups

Re: additional voices?

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi, You're probably just unaware of which popup we're talking about. THe one we refer to is bethe one where you select your default voice, underneath the "Voice" label in the Speech section. At the bottom of that menu will be a Customize item which you select. In that dialog which will appear

one new feature of Lion I absolutely love!

2011-07-20 Thread Peggy Fleischer
I have installed Lion and I'm beginning to play around with the new features and found one that I absolutely love. I've found that if you select several files in a folder and want to put them in a new folder you can just select the files as usual and then do vo shift m and down arrow to "new fo

Re: The lion sleeps tonight

2011-07-20 Thread
Well, I canceled the installer before it started to make my back up disk. Once it's done downloading, it asks you if you'd like to continue, and I said know until I burned it to a DVD. HTH Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com

Re: additional voices?

2011-07-20 Thread
Oh, I did see that but thought it meant something else. Thanks! Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com Sent from my IMac On Jul 20, 2011, at 7:39 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hi, > You're probably just unaware of which popup we're

Re: one new feature of Lion I absolutely love!

2011-07-20 Thread
Where can I get the documentation for new featers and how to use them for Lion? Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com Sent from my IMac On Jul 20, 2011, at 7:42 PM, Peggy Fleischer wrote: > I have installed Lion and I'm beginnin

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Donna Goodin
Yeah, but it only shows the automatically created mailboxes, not the personal ones that you've created. Best, Donna On Jul 20, 2011, at 5:44 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hi, > There's a favorites bar above the messages column you can investigate. > There's a button to let you show or hide the ma

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Donna Goodin
It did open mine. Best, Donna On Jul 20, 2011, at 5:55 PM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote: > Also, arrowing to the right does not open my conversations. Hitting up and > down arrow together does. > Kliphton SR > (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 > (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.co

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Donna Goodin
Well, I'm sorry, but I'm glad someone else is experiencing this. Cheers, Donna On Jul 20, 2011, at 5:57 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote: > I'm right there with you Donna. > > Gotta figure it out. > > Kev > On Jul 20, 2011, at 5:04 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> Just did that. And still no status is s

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread
Yup, noticed the same thing. Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com Sent from my IMac On Jul 20, 2011, at 8:45 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Yeah, but it only shows the automatically created mailboxes, not the personal > ones that yo

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread
Were you doing it with vo, or by itself? Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com Sent from my IMac On Jul 20, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > It did open mine. > Best, > Donna > > On Jul 20, 2011, at 5:55 PM, Kliph&Sharrie

Re: The lion sleeps tonight

2011-07-20 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Bryan, At this point, the only reason I see for upgrading is the voices in other languages. Just my opinion, of course. Best, Donna On Jul 20, 2011, at 6:40 PM, Brian Miller wrote: > I haven't seen anyone say one way or the other whether or not one ought to > download and install Lion... C

Re: one bad thing I've found in mail

2011-07-20 Thread carolyn Haas
Hey c'mon Donna, that's not what i've heard. Jus teasing you.:) I know Melissa always tells me to employ the VO-lock. Then I forget it's on and get myself all messed up because nothing works normally until it's unlocked again. It's interesting to be able to stand by and be just a little envious

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Donna Goodin
I changed it pretty soon after up grading, so not completely sure. But I think I was doing it by itself. Best, Donna On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:47 PM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote: > Were you doing it with vo, or by itself? > Kliphton SR > (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 > (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i

Re: getting more voices for 10.7

2011-07-20 Thread David Tanner
Well, I got there by going to System Preferences and then to the Speech settings. When I got the list of voice choices I chose a voice that had not been available in Snow Leopard to be my System voice. Once I took an OK on the change I was prompted whether I wanted to download that voice. I

Re: one bad thing I've found in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Carolyn, Yeah, that's why I never use VO-lock. :) Don't be too envious, so far, I'm not enamored. Cheers, Donna On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:49 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: > Hey c'mon Donna, that's not what i've heard. Jus teasing you.:) > I know Melissa always tells me to employ the VO-lock. Then I

Re: getting more voices for 10.7

2011-07-20 Thread Marc Workman
400 mb was just the one voice. I selected 12 voices, and it was nearly 4 gb. I'll likely stick with Alex, but I do like several of the French ones. Marc - Original Message - From: "David Tanner" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 8:03 PM Subject: Re: getting more voices for 10.7

RE: question about keyboard commands

2011-07-20 Thread Shannon Dyer
It's right here in your post. Use the function key with left arrow for home, right arrow for end, up arrow for page up, and down arrow for page down. Make sure you always hold the function key when doing this. Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Donna Goodin
Hmm. Didn't see it in the View menu. Will try Cmd-Shift-F. Thanks for the tip. Best, Donna On Jul 20, 2011, at 6:18 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: > Hey Donna. > Press command shift f to show or hide the mailbox list. Also, if you scroll > down that huge amount of stuff in the view menu, it's t

Lion Accessibility improvements

2011-07-20 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Hi: Check this out. http://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/features.html#accessibility -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send em

copying lion to dvd

2011-07-20 Thread Denise Avant
hi all, a few days ago, i think someone left instructions on how to make a copy of lion to dvd after downloading it. if someone has those instructions, would you please mail them to me? is there a need to backup the data on your mac before upgrading to lion? would you have to restore it once lio

Am I crazy, or is there now no way to view an attachment in mail?

2011-07-20 Thread Donna Goodin
OK, so I have another gripe with the new mail. It appears that there is no way to view a pdf other than Quicklook. The context menu is no longer there, and the only way I can open a PDF is with quick look. There is no other option for opening a PDF attachment. I hate to be a naysayer, but fo

Re: Am I crazy, or is there now no way to view an attachment in mail?

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Dona, The Mail app actually has some fairly detailed help on this subject, under the receiving messages section. There are multiple ways to view and save attachments described in there. Best, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 8:29 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > OK, so I have another gripe with the new ma

Turning off and on VO speech

2011-07-20 Thread Cakes
Hi folks, Help! First of all, every once and a while I somehow mute VO by simply accidentally touching the track pad. I think the way to unmute VO on a 13" mbp is by hitting the fourth button from the top right corner of the keyboard. Right? But this time; and I think it happened one other

Re: Turning off and on VO speech

2011-07-20 Thread Marc Workman
Once you turn voiceover on with cmd f5, and after you hear speech off, tap twice using three fingers on the track pad. That should unmute voiceover. HTH Marc - Original Message - From: "Cakes" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:12 PM Subject: Turning off and on VO speech Hi f

Re: The lion sleeps tonight

2011-07-20 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi Donna, What about activities? I think the ability to create a voiceover profile for individual apps is a really good feature. And being able to navigate the web with 1 letter navigation when using quick nav. So instead of pressing VO command H to go to the next heading for example, you ca

Re: Turning off and on VO speech

2011-07-20 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, And you might want to just turn trackpad commander off when not using it to prevent accidental gestures. On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:12 AM, Cakes wrote: > Hi folks, > > Help! > > First of all, every once and a while I somehow mute VO by simply accidentally > touching the track pad. I think th

Re: Am I crazy, or is there now no way to view an attachment in mail?

2011-07-20 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi donna, Are you using standard Mail or classic? You might want to revert to the classic view. It might give you less trouble. On Jul 20, 2011, at 11:29 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > OK, so I have another gripe with the new mail. It appears that there is no > way to view a pdf other than Quickl

Re: Turning off and on VO speech

2011-07-20 Thread Cakes
Hi Ricardo and all, Thanks for helping me out once again. You guys are great! Is there a hotkey for turning off and on the trackpad? Great idea of course. Johnny "Cakes" Chilelli On 7/21/2011 12:25 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, And you might want to just turn trackpad commander off when

how long to charge amacbook?

2011-07-20 Thread Karen Lewellen
I realize most of you are playing in the jungle with Lion, but if someone can tell me how long it takes to do this I would appreciate it. taking my loan of a macbook to play at Starbucks tomorrow. thanks, Karen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVis

Re: how long to charge amacbook?

2011-07-20 Thread Isaac Obie
Hi Karen, I should think three hours would do it. But why not leave it pluged in overnight? And don't give the Macbook any coffee! I have a Macbook! Isaac - Original Message - From: "Karen Lewellen" To: "list voiceover" Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 1:23 AM Subject: how long to char

Re: how long to charge amacbook?

2011-07-20 Thread Karen Lewellen
lol. You guessed my plan. its plugged in, but asleep, which I trust will still charge it. And oh no, the coffee is for me smiles. Thanks much, Karen On Thu, 21 Jul 2011, Isaac Obie wrote: Hi Karen, I should think three hours would do it. But why not leave it pluged in overnight? And don't

Re: how long to charge amacbook?

2011-07-20 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, A completely dead Macbook takes about 2 hours 2 charge fully in my experience. Maybe a little more. On Jul 21, 2011, at 1:23 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > I realize most of you are playing in the jungle with Lion, but if someone can > tell me how long it takes to do this I would appreciate i

Re: The lion sleeps tonight

2011-07-20 Thread Austin Seraphin
Hi. I've just installed Lion on both my iMac and my MacBook Air. Of course things seem a little different, but I feel glad I upgraded. Over all VoiceOver seems more responsive, Safari too. It seems to load pages more quickly, and it has more accessibility options and improvements. For example, a

Re: Turning off and on VO speech

2011-07-20 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, Yup, You can turn the trackpad commander off by holding down control and option an placing 2 fingers on the trackpad and turning them counter clockwise. On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:31 AM, Cakes wrote: > Hi Ricardo and all, > > Thanks for helping me out once again. You guys are great! > > Is

Launchpad

2011-07-20 Thread Austin Seraphin
Ok so has anyone figured this out? I really hoped for an iOS-style home screen, and it definitely seems similar. But how does one move apps around with VoiceOver? I tried dragging and dropping, including with the cool new commands VO-comma to mark and VO-period to drop. Nothing worked. I really

Re: Launchpad

2011-07-20 Thread Marc Workman
After playing with this for a bit, there seem to be some accessibility problems. Though, that said, this doesn't strike me as a very useful tool for blind people. First off, you don't seem to be able to navigate by pressing letters. If I could find an app or a folder by pressing the first fe

Restart into Windows.

2011-07-20 Thread Georges Zaynoun
I have windows7 on my imac, from windows I can from the system tray choose that menu from bootcamp, is there any faster way than going to system prefs on the mac and choose startup disk? Wished there was a shortcut in restart as well or can I create one? -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE5416

Re: trying to download lion?

2011-07-20 Thread Cakes
Hey all, I got my new mbp 13: about three weeks ago. I was told by a couple of Apple reps on the 1-800-My Apple line that lion was not yet released. But you guys obviously got it. When was it released? I should be able to get it free right? Also, can it be downloaded to your MacBook and n

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