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> Hi,
>
> Has anyone noticed a very odd behaviour of Voiceover when reading pdf
> documents either in Preview or when Safari opens them on the web? Voiceover
> reads each page of a pdf document twice. This is very annoying
Yes, I face it since Big Sur 11.3 or so. I’m not sure, but it still exists in
11.5.2.
Mohamed E. Fayed
> On 29 Sep 2021, at 10:54 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
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> Hi,
>
> Has anyone noticed a very odd behaviour of Voiceover when readin
behaviour of Voiceover when reading pdf
> documents either in Preview or when Safari opens them on the web? Voiceover
> reads each page of a pdf document twice. This is very annoying and totally
> unnecessary. Could you confirm?
>
> Andrew
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Hi,
Has anyone noticed a very odd behaviour of Voiceover when reading pdf documents
either in Preview or when Safari opens them on the web? Voiceover reads each
page of a pdf document twice. This is very annoying and totally unnecessary.
Could you confirm?
Andrew
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If it is a fillable document, then I would expect any application that can read
PDF would work including Adobe Acrobat Reader, Microsoft WOrd, and preview. If
it is one that needs you to type in markups, even then Preview on the works for
sighted people, though the gold standard on the Mac side
Good day everyone.
I was wondering what I need or what website I can go to that's accessible to
fill out a pdf document? I need to get an admissions document filled out and
it's a pdf fillable document.
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>> Hi All:
>> After upgrading to Mojave I find that I can not navigate by sentence in pdf
>> documents. Until now, I have used command/option/control/function plus down
>> arrow to do this but it is not working any longer. Anyone have suggestions?
>> Jean
>&
t; Hi All:
> After upgrading to Mojave I find that I can not navigate by sentence in pdf
> documents. Until now, I have used command/option/control/function plus down
> arrow to do this but it is not working any longer. Anyone have suggestions?
> Jean
>
> Dr. Jean Parker, Ph.D.
> Se
Hi All:
After upgrading to Mojave I find that I can not navigate by sentence in pdf
documents. Until now, I have used command/option/control/function plus down
arrow to do this but it is not working any longer. Anyone have suggestions?
Jean
Dr. Jean Parker, Ph.D.
Senior Research Fellow
Trans4m
If two apps are cutting off an area in the same manner, make sure your window
is set to full view.
In skim in the menu bar windows and zoom do the trick. You can set a shortcut
for zoom.
Btw, cmd a and then cmd c will copy all the text of a pdf file to the
clipboard. It can then be pasted
You could try Prizmo. Prizmo will OCR the print or digital document, and place
each section into its own grouping in the page view.
Kind regards,
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
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> On 7 Jul 2018, at 03:48, 'Andrew Lamanche' vi
Yet another option: ABBY FineReader can convert PDF files to HTML or Microsoft
Word format.
On 7/6/18, 13:48, "'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries"
wrote:
No, Paul, sadly Voice Dream is not available for mac OS.
Andrew
> On Jul 6, 2018, at 6:05 PM, Paul Hopewell
wrote:
No, Paul, sadly Voice Dream is not available for mac OS.
Andrew
> On Jul 6, 2018, at 6:05 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I have now tried a couple of alternative PDF readers for Mac OS: PDF Reader
> Pro Free and Skim. They both do a better job of my Newsletter PDF than
> Preview. Alas
Hello,
I have now tried a couple of alternative PDF readers for Mac OS: PDF Reader Pro
Free and Skim. They both do a better job of my Newsletter PDF than Preview.
Alas neither correctly displays my credit card statement PDF file. They both
miss the last column in the statement table which shows
t line, say rtf.
>The program returns the converted materials to you swiftly, or tells
you
>if there is a problem.
>Hope this is helpful,
>Kare
>
>
>
>On Tue, 3 Jul 2018, Paul Hopewell wrote:
>
>> Hello
ials to you swiftly, or tells you
>if there is a problem.
>Hope this is helpful,
>Kare
>
>
>
>On Tue, 3 Jul 2018, Paul Hopewell wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> I am running Mac OS 10.13.5 on my 2017 iMac. IS there a good VO friendly
>> alterna
a problem.
Hope this is helpful,
Kare
On Tue, 3 Jul 2018, Paul Hopewell wrote:
> Hello,
> I am running Mac OS 10.13.5 on my 2017 iMac. IS there a good VO friendly
alternative to Preview for reading PDF documents? Preview does a poor job with
tables for m
wrote:
> Hello,
> I am running Mac OS 10.13.5 on my 2017 iMac. IS there a good VO friendly
> alternative to Preview for reading PDF documents? Preview does a poor job
> with tables for my bank statement and the use of multiple fonts in a a
> Newsletter which I regularly read. To ma
Preview for reading PDF documents? Preview does a poor job with
tables for my bank statement and the use of multiple fonts in a a Newsletter
which I regularly read. To make the document acceptable I use the app pdf to
word. this is OK but it is more work and it would be better if I could just
Hello,
I am running Mac OS 10.13.5 on my 2017 iMac. IS there a good VO friendly
alternative to Preview for reading PDF documents? Preview does a poor job with
tables for my bank statement and the use of multiple fonts in a a Newsletter
which I regularly read. To make the document acceptable I
OK, this is exactly what I was looking for!
Thanks
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> On Feb 11, 2018, at 11:19 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:
>
> FineReaderPro.
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>> On Feb 11, 2018, at 5:03 PM, Bill Gallik wrote:
>>
>> Can anybody advise as to how to deal with a situation where I am sent PDF
>> documents that have been scanned in as image files. When I try to open such
>> PDF documents with Ado
ion where I am sent PDF
> documents that have been scanned in as image files. When I try to open such
> PDF documents with Adobe Reader I get the message, “Alert, Empty Document”
>
>
> I have ABBY Fine Reader on my PC to process the image from a document scan;
> is there some
Can anybody advise as to how to deal with a situation where I am sent PDF
documents that have been scanned in as image files. When I try to open such
PDF documents with Adobe Reader I get the message, “Alert, Empty Document”
I have ABBY Fine Reader on my PC to process the image from a
Hi,
I received a response saying that they had forwarded it on to the necessary
department to be addressed. The "don't know when it will be resolved" comment
is standard. I doubt that they want to be held to a timeline in case they
can't meet it.
Thanks for submitting the report as well.
La
They say they’re looking into it but don’t know when will be solved.
Mary
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Subject: Adobe Improves Support for Accessible PDF Documents on Mobile Devices
| Adobe Document Cloud
Sorry for the cross posting, but I thought this could be of interest to folks
on these lists who havei-devices. It looks like there are
Sorry for the cross posting, but I thought this could be of interest to folks
on these lists who havei-devices. It looks like there are some improvements for
reading PDF documents on these devices, but no tables yet, unfortunately. Let's
hope it doesn't take them too long t
.
> On Feb 13, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a real problem reading tables in pdf documents. Various financial
> institutions including banks provide vital customer related and strictly
> private info in tables as a pdf download. When I ope
Hi,
I have a real problem reading tables in pdf documents. Various financial
institutions including banks provide vital customer related and strictly
private info in tables as a pdf download. When I open a pdf document like this
in Preview, the information which otherwise one would read in
Usually command + s opens a save dialog box, choose to save in documents for
example and hit ok button. Open it from documents. If it is troublesome to
read, you have the option to buy Fine Reader Pro and convert the pdf to text
and open it in text edit or maybe Pages.
Take care
> 5. mai 201
Hello Jean,
You’re not alone having trouble with PDFs in Safari. I can’t give you a
fool-proof way of dealing with them, but I find that reloading the page often
makes them accessible.
I hate things that behave so weirdly that it feels as though you need to
perform some kind of magic to make th
Hello:
Every so often I receive an email with a link to a pdf document in it. When I
click on that link there appears to be no simple way to read the document. The
url for the page on which the document is located shows up in the tab list but
hitting vo space to select it doesn’t yield any resu
That is true, though the same PDF might have different sizes if the font
collections are compressed or the graphics have reduced sizes. I believe
Acrobat Pro has controls to manage this along with the ability to change or
modify PDF tags.
Best wishes,
Jonathan
> On 26 Mar 2016, at 12:46,
Jonathan Metz just started creating a series of Youtube videos on making
accessible PDF documents I expect it is mostly for Windows, but I will provide
the link. I believe that google docs might also be able to create tagged PDF
files.
.
Best wishes,
Jonathan
>From WEB AIM mailing list:
PDFs aren't compressed on their own. You can zip a PDF by selecting it
and then going to the file menu to choose Compress "filename" or use the
contextual menu on the PDF. That will make a .zip file of the PDF which
will upload/download faster.
CB
On 3/26/16 1:02 AM, John Weir wrote:
There is
There is a program called Stuffit that will compress your files before
sending. and decompress them on receipt. and apples automatically
unzip files on receipt. John
On 3/25/16 5:14 PM, Jean wrote:
Thank you for the explanation. How does one make a pdf ua? I don’t see any
option for this
Thank you for the explanation. How does one make a pdf ua? I don’t see any
option for this when I try to export a document. Also, if a pdf is
automatically zipped is it still universal? In other words, what is the best
way to create a pdf document which is both universally readable and small
en
1. Navigate and interact with the toolbar, then navigate to the end of the
toolbar where there is a search field. Type text in there to be searched and
press return. Then stop interacting with the toolbar, and next to the PDF
content area will be a new scroll area. Interact with that scroll area
What’s the most effective way to
1. Search a PDF document for specified text, and
2. Select some text for copying to the clipboard from within a PDF document?
So far as I have been able to find out, tagged PDF (recognition of headings,
paragraphs, lists, tables and other structures preserved in t
Hi all,
thanks for the help!
Yes, it is a PDF document i have been able to read previously. There
seems to be a bug in yosemite.
I quit the PDF, turned off VO, opened the PDF and turned VO back on.
When I interact with the PDF content, vo reads the PDF properly.
Once again, thanks for the immediate
Hi there
PDF Pen Pro will also OCR pdf image files. It does it automatically when it
encounters a pdf image file. I have had good results from it before.
Gigi
> On Oct 18, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>
> Have you been able to read that particular document before? Sounds like you
Hi,
Is this a pdf document that you were previously able to read? If so, then
Interact twice with the Content area then try using VO-down arrow to go through
it. It's possible that the first page has nothing VO readable and VO appears
to only read the document's current page if you don't Inte
Have you been able to read that particular document before? Sounds like you
might need Abby Fine reader to run OCR on it.
Sincerely,
the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind
built-in and full
Hi list,
I just updated to Os X 10.10 a few hours ago.
When I open a PDF in preview, VO says PDF Content group. When I
interact with the group, VO says pdf static text and thats all!
How do I get VO to read the content of the PDF file?
This is a very important and urgent task for me as I have a tes
Great work. Thanks, Gigi. I too am happy to do anything I can to help them with
this. I agree better PDF support for VoiceOver is really needed on the Mac, and
PDFPen seems to have all the pro features that one would need with PDF editing
software. I hope they can do the same thing on iOS as wel
Hi there
I just sent the developers two files, both blank forms directly from the
Internal Revenue web site. I did this for comparison purposes. This is because
when I filled out my taxes with these forms the first six lines of the 1040 did
not work, and I couldn't check that I was blind and my
HI Gigi,
What's that about a mode that doesn't allow editing? And how does one allow
editing?
Cheers,
Nic
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> On Mar 3, 2014, at 5:53 AM, William Windels wrote:
>
> hello all,
> I am very interested in filling in pdf-documents.
>
> I have just installed pdfpen but,
hello all,
I am very interested in filling in pdf-documents.
I have just installed pdfpen but, it seems I couldn’t fill in/overwrite ………
fields.
I went to edit mode with command+2 but no chance.
I had tested it with pdfpen and saw then that there was also a pdfpenpro
version.
Unfortunately
You might try PDFpen Pro. I used it this year to do my tax forms. It seems to
work pretty well although there were some fields that didn't fill-in. I plan to
send them a copy of the blank form to see if it was the form or the program.
They said they are interested in Accessibility.
Sincerely,
G
If there is an accessible way of filling in PDF's I'm interested.
Kawal.
> On 28 Feb 2014, at 03:09 pm, Annie Skov Nielsen
> wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> I have tried using PDF pen pro, but I can not get it to work as I wish. Could
> anyone give some hints. I have bought the program long ago. Yesterda
Hi.
I have tried using PDF pen pro, but I can not get it to work as I wish. Could
anyone give some hints. I have bought the program long ago. Yesterday I thought
I could use it, but no it wouldn't work, but I could use it for copying the
form to textedit and fill it out that way.
Best regards
Thank you very much. I will download this and give it a try.
> On 27 Feb 2014, at 09:20 pm, Chris Blouch wrote:
>
> Sorry for the slip. You can read PDFs in textEdit but to fill them in you
> need PDFPen. Have you given that a try? You can download a free trial here:
>
> http://smilesoftware.c
Sorry for the slip. You can read PDFs in textEdit but to fill them in
you need PDFPen. Have you given that a try? You can download a free
trial here:
http://smilesoftware.com/PDFpen/index.html
but if you like it they want $60.
CB
On 2/26/14 1:39 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
Can you make a for
Can you make a formal what you have printed it to PDF as I had problems filling
out a form yesterday. I had to email it to my work address and do it on Windows.
> On 26 Feb 2014, at 06:23 pm, Chris Blouch wrote:
>
> Just a little tip. I've had folks who received a PDF I filled out with
> textE
Just a little tip. I've had folks who received a PDF I filled out with
textEdit say that the stuff I filled out wouldn't print. Not sure why
that was but I cheated and re-printed it to a PDF on my end and that
seemed to fix it. To do that, even if you don't have a printer set up on
the Mac, you
Curious question: if you fill out a pdf form in TextEdit, does it use rtf
format? Do you then have to export it again to pdf, and does it retain the
formatting?
thanks,
teresa
Visualize whirled peas.
On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:21 AM, Nicholas Parsons
wrote:
> I never knew you could open PDFs in
I never knew you could open PDFs in TextEdit. that's cool. I'll need to try
this as I still have one Mac running Mountain Lion.
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>> On 24/02/2014 16:44, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> Hello.
>>
>> I am using Mavericks and got a PDF form to fill in.
>>
>> Before in Mountain Lion, I could open PDF documents in Text Edit and fill in
>> forms.
Have you opened it in TextEdit under Mavericks?
Regards Chris
On 24/02/2014 16:44, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
Hello.
I am using Mavericks and got a PDF form to fill in.
Before in Mountain Lion, I could open PDF documents in Text Edit and fill in
forms.
However, in the Preview I can read the
I am not sure if you can use preview to feel out the forms.
On Feb 24, 2014, at 10:44 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> Hello.
>
> I am using Mavericks and got a PDF form to fill in.
>
> Before in Mountain Lion, I could open PDF documents in Text Edit and fill in
> forms.
&g
Hello.
I am using Mavericks and got a PDF form to fill in.
Before in Mountain Lion, I could open PDF documents in Text Edit and fill in
forms.
However, in the Preview I can read the form but can't fill in the form. Pages
is dimmed. Have not opened it in I books as I books wasn't
Title: [Maccessibility] iBooks 3.0 Includes Enhanced VoiceOver Support in PDF Documents
Maccessibility has posted a new item, 'iBooks 3.0 Includes Enhanced VoiceOver Support in PDF Documents'
Apple has released iBooks 3.0, the latest version of their ebook platform for iOS devices. In a
read it and it worked pretty well. Anyway, it's just
another idea using some commercial software to parse PDF documents.
On 4/12/12, Scott Howell wrote:
> Kirsten,
>
> I think the problem is simply poorly formatted tables. VO is not designed to
> try and reconstruct a table. I
t; it with my Kurzweil, since it is able to read by columns.
>>
>> Good luck with your efforts, and please keep the list apprised of any
>> successes. I'm sure I'm not the only one who would like to be able to read
>> multiple-column, pdf documents on my Mac.
>&g
>
> Good luck with your efforts, and please keep the list apprised of any
> successes. I'm sure I'm not the only one who would like to be able to read
> multiple-column, pdf documents on my Mac.
>
> Cordially,
> Rafael
> On Apr 10, 2012, at 5:51 PM, Kirsten Edmonds
read
multiple-column, pdf documents on my Mac.
Cordially,
Rafael
On Apr 10, 2012, at 5:51 PM, Kirsten Edmondson wrote:
> I haven't, but you raise a good point, I have never found it possible to read
> PDF columns properly with Jaws and used to have to use fine reader to
> translate
of layout and formatting.
On 9 Apr 2012, at 16:21, Bejarano, Rafael P. wrote:
> Those are very helpful suggestions. I wonder, though: Have you ever tried
> reading pdf documents formatted in multiple columns? I can do so using an
> old PowerPC iBook running Tiger, but I can't s
Those are very helpful suggestions. I wonder, though: Have you ever tried
reading pdf documents formatted in multiple columns? I can do so using an old
PowerPC iBook running Tiger, but I can't seem to do so with newer Macs and OSs.
Cordially,
Rafael Bejarano
On Apr 8, 2012, at 4:
this only.
>> Can you suggest some ways of improving the reading experience while
>> reading books in PDF format?
>> How can I go to the previous or next page in a PDF file?
>>
>> On 09/04/2012, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>> I have always read PDF documents in t
ing like this only.
> Can you suggest some ways of improving the reading experience while
> reading books in PDF format?
> How can I go to the previous or next page in a PDF file?
>
> On 09/04/2012, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> I have always read PDF documents in text edit withou
; I have always read PDF documents in text edit without any problem just in
> case someone wishes not to open safari.
>
> Kawal.
>
> On 8 Apr 2012, at 10:47 PM, Kirsten Edmondson
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> A few weeks ago, someone asked what was the best way of reading
I have always read PDF documents in text edit without any problem just in case
someone wishes not to open safari.
Kawal.
On 8 Apr 2012, at 10:47 PM, Kirsten Edmondson
wrote:
> Hi all,
> A few weeks ago, someone asked what was the best way of reading PDFs. I gave
> some vague resp
Hi all,
A few weeks ago, someone asked what was the best way of reading PDFs. I gave
some vague response, and though I can't remember who asked, I know it comes up
quite often, so, below I list more specific steps. I hope they help whoever
wanted to know.
1. Find your document in your folder s
Abby fine Reader is excellent for that purpose.
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
Skype name:
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On Jun 29, 2011, at 10:36 PM, Ezzie Buenito wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> How do I possibly go abo
Hello list,
How do I possibly go about converting PDF files into text? I
don't see any options on the menu bar. I need those ASAP so that
I can read them on my BN.
Thanks,
EZZIE Bueno
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heavenly Father."
Hi everyone,
Wow! This is a nice feature. I have just created a PDF document using LaTeX and
there were tables in it. Tables are something I try to avoid, but I wanted to
try it to see if I could get them to work, which I did. Anyway, when I tried to
read the document, It read the tables, It
thanks Anne, I'll try turning vo of and then on again. :)
On Oct 27, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
> Hello Christina,
>
> On Oct 26, 2009, at 9:45 PM, Christina wrote:
>
>>
>> Anne, Thank you, thank you, thank you. That helps a lot.
> I'm so glad.
>>
>> Now, I just need to figure out
Hello Christina,
On Oct 26, 2009, at 9:45 PM, Christina wrote:
>
> Anne, Thank you, thank you, thank you. That helps a lot.
I'm so glad.
>
> Now, I just need to figure out why I cannot easily vo spacebar on a
> link.
I've been working on this one, and it's complicated. VO-Spacebar
doesn't do i
Hi, I'm resending this because this did not come through on my e-
mail. I'm not sure why but here goes again just in case. :)
Christina
Anne, Thank you, thank you, thank you. That helps a lot. Now, when I
leave the pdf document and when I return I am at the top of the page
that I left o
Hi Anne and thanks that is an obvious answer. I guess what I would
like to see is eventually this not to even require a hot spot.
Appreciate all of your input/assistance.
On Oct 27, 2009, at 3:11 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
> Hello Scott,
>
> On Oct 26, 2009, at 11:18 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>
Hello Scott,
On Oct 26, 2009, at 11:18 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>
> What I was looking for is to start precisely where I left off even if
> in the middle of a sentence three quarters through that section.
Try setting a hotspot. As long as you don't quit Preview in the
meantime, that works.
Cheer
Hi Anne,
What I was looking for is to start precisely where I left off even if
in the middle of a sentence three quarters through that section. If
the intent is to begin at the particular section, then yes, that works
beautifully and for that bit of info, I thank you. Now to find a way
to
Anne, Thank you, thank you, thank you. That helps a lot. Now, when I
leave the pdf document and when I return I am at the top of the page
that I left off on instead of the very beginning of a long
document. :) The voice over cursor isn't on the line I left off on
it's at the beginning
Hello Scott,
On Oct 26, 2009, at 6:39 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
> have you tried this with any of the Take Control books?
Yes.
> I setup
> preview per your instructions and still find that VO instead of
> starting at the top of the document, starts at the beginning of that
> page/section I'm readi
Anne, have you tried this with any of the Take Control books? I setup
preview per your instructions and still find that VO instead of
starting at the top of the document, starts at the beginning of that
page/section I'm reading. I still need to try this with some other
PDFs, but still work
Hello Christina,
Here's how I set up Preview:
Setting up Preview for reading:
Open Preview Preferences (Command-Comma).
Interact with Toolbar and select PDF.
In "On opening documents", check the checkbox "Show sidebar only for
Table of Contents", as well as the checkbox "Start on the last view
I too have frustrations with reading pdf's right now. I often have to
read pdf documents. I am using preview. I get so frustrated that
anytime I leave the window if I return I am back at the very
beginning. G, this wastes a lot of time when I then have to find
my place again.
Hi,
Since I installed SL on to my Macbook, I've struggled reading pds such as the
take control books etc.
I used to have preview set up to read single page continuous however since I
installed Snow Leopard this doesn't appear to be an option because as soon as I
try interacting with the book
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