Re: mac vs jfw

2010-12-07 Thread richard watson
On 12/7/10, David Taylor wrote: > Here's my take as a recent switcher: > > Email: There simply isn't a mail client that comes close to Apple Mail for > responsiveness, stability or features. If you are a heavy email user, Mac is > by far your best bet now. > > Media: iTunes is great on the Mac, bu

Re: mac vs jfw

2010-12-07 Thread David Taylor
>>>> Web browsing, Email and Skype and iTunes work very well with VoiceOver on >>>> the Mac. My only gripe is that Office for Mac is not accessible, that >>>> really would be the cherry on the cake for me. And it would be nice if >>>> some mus

Re: mac vs jfw

2010-12-07 Thread David Taylor
re powerful > and can handle what you're doing.. > Isaac > - Original Message - From: "richard watson" > > To: > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 3:03 PM > Subject: mac vs jfw > > >> Good afternoon, >> my name is rick watson

Re: mac vs jfw

2010-12-07 Thread David Taylor
Here's my take as a recent switcher: Email: There simply isn't a mail client that comes close to Apple Mail for responsiveness, stability or features. If you are a heavy email user, Mac is by far your best bet now. Media: iTunes is great on the Mac, but VLC media player is now pretty useful as

Re: safari alternatives? was, Re: mac vs jfw

2010-12-06 Thread Caitlyn and Nicky
Thanks, have to check this out. I'm still on a windows machine mostly, but we've got a mac book laptop running leopard that we use. When we get our next desk tops, we're both seriously considering macs all the way. Cait On 05/12/2010 7:56 PM, Darcy Burnard wrote: Google has started to mak

Re: safari alternatives? was, Re: mac vs jfw

2010-12-06 Thread Caitlyn and Nicky
Ok, thanks. Cait On 05/12/2010 6:40 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: Not really. Firefox is not accessible as of yet nor are most of the other browsers. You could give Opera a try but it has limitations in its accessibility as well. Later... On 2010-12-05, at 4:24 PM, Caitlyn and Nicky wrote: If

Re: safari alternatives? was, Re: mac vs jfw

2010-12-06 Thread Scott Howell
Hi Darcy, Well I could not resist trying Chrome out. First thing folks will want to know is by default it wants to become your default browser, so uncheck this in options and in the basic section. WHen you first launch Chrome there are several buttons that are unlabeled that allow you to choose

Re: safari alternatives? was, Re: mac vs jfw

2010-12-05 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi! Well, Mozilla is already aware and working on it. In fact, if you get the Firefox source, you can enable some accessibility features and some of it will work. It's pretty limited, but it's a step forward. Unfortunately, adding accessibility to Firefox is a lot more complex than you might t

Re: safari alternatives? was, Re: mac vs jfw

2010-12-05 Thread Eric Oyen
unfortunately, no. firefox and opera are both inaccessible when using VO. I have sent off a small screen capture video to both mozilla )makers of firefox) and opera. I hope it has a much more desired effect than all the e-mails I have sent. -Eric On Dec 5, 2010, at 4:24 PM, Caitlyn and Nicky w

Re: safari alternatives? was, Re: mac vs jfw

2010-12-05 Thread Darcy Burnard
Google has started to make Chrome accessible. I've downloaded it, but haven't played with it extensively, so can't really comment on how well it works. Here is their accessibility page. http://dev.chromium.org/user-experience/screen-reader-support Darcy On 2010-12-05, at 6:24 PM, Caitlyn and N

Re: safari alternatives? was, Re: mac vs jfw

2010-12-05 Thread Tim Kilburn
Not really. Firefox is not accessible as of yet nor are most of the other browsers. You could give Opera a try but it has limitations in its accessibility as well. Later... On 2010-12-05, at 4:24 PM, Caitlyn and Nicky wrote: > If you don't want to use safari, are there other options for the

safari alternatives? was, Re: mac vs jfw

2010-12-05 Thread Caitlyn and Nicky
If you don't want to use safari, are there other options for the mac, like firefox? Caitlyn On 03/12/2010 7:46 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: I'd like to make one personal comment here which is that I'm using Safari more and more not just to get information but am now buying on line with it more

Re: mac vs jfw

2010-12-04 Thread Scott Granados
th JAWS. Plus VoiceOver is more stable. >>>> >>>> Web browsing, Email and Skype and iTunes work very well with VoiceOver on >>>> the Mac. My only gripe is that Office for Mac is not accessible, that >>>> really would be the cherry on the cake

Re: mac vs jfw

2010-12-04 Thread erik burggraaf
t;> On 4 Dec 2010, at 07:15, Isaac Obie wrote: >> >>> Hi Rick, >>> Spreadsheets? You'd best go with a Macbook pro or an imac! Imacs are >>> powerful and can handle what you're doing.. >>> Isaac >>> - Original Message - From: &qu

Re: mac vs jfw

2010-12-04 Thread Oriol Gómez
ys upgrade your OS when Lion comes out, the >>>>> beauty >>>>> of the Mac is even blind users can install an OS without sighted >>>>> assistance. >>>>> >>>>> I much prefer surfing on my Mac as I can whizz around web pages much >

Re: mac vs jfw

2010-12-04 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
iTunes work very well with VoiceOver on >>>> the Mac. My only gripe is that Office for Mac is not accessible, that >>>> really would be the cherry on the cake for me. And it would be nice if >>>> some music packages were as accessible as Reaper and Sonar are on Windo

Re: mac vs jfw

2010-12-04 Thread Colin M
>> really would be the cherry on the cake for me. And it would be nice if >>> some music packages were as accessible as Reaper and Sonar are on Windows, >>> but the Mac is steadily coming along in those areas. >>> >>> Chris >>> On 4 Dec 2010,

Re: mac vs jfw

2010-12-04 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
>>> the Mac. My only gripe is that Office for Mac is not accessible, that >>> really would be the cherry on the cake for me. And it would be nice if >>> some music packages were as accessible as Reaper and Sonar are on Windows, >>> but the Mac is steadily coming

Re: mac vs jfw

2010-12-04 Thread Oriol Gómez
gt; Hi Rick, >>> Spreadsheets? You'd best go with a Macbook pro or an imac! Imacs are >>> powerful and can handle what you're doing.. >>> Isaac >>> - Original Message - From: "richard watson" >>> >>> To: >>>

Re: mac vs jfw

2010-12-04 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
; powerful and can handle what you're doing.. >> Isaac >> - Original Message - From: "richard watson" >> >> To: >> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 3:03 PM >> Subject: mac vs jfw >> >> >>> Good afternoon, >>>

Re: mac vs jfw

2010-12-04 Thread Chris Moore
:15, Isaac Obie wrote: > Hi Rick, > Spreadsheets? You'd best go with a Macbook pro or an imac! Imacs are powerful > and can handle what you're doing.. > Isaac > - Original Message - From: "richard watson" > > To: > Sent: Friday, Dec

Re: mac vs jfw

2010-12-03 Thread Isaac Obie
Hi Rick, Spreadsheets? You'd best go with a Macbook pro or an imac! Imacs are powerful and can handle what you're doing.. Isaac - Original Message - From: "richard watson" To: Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 3:03 PM Subject: mac vs jfw Good afternoon, my

Re: mac vs jfw

2010-12-03 Thread Mike Arrigo
The mac should work well for all of those things, and you won't need to pay extra to keep the screen reader up to date. And, since you use voiceover on the iphone, you'll have a head start with using a mac. On Dec 3, 2010, at 2:03 PM, richard watson wrote: > Good afternoon, > my name is rick wat

Re: mac vs jfw

2010-12-03 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
- From: "Sarai Bucciarelli" > > To: > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 6:26 PM > Subject: Re: mac vs jfw > > > Hi Rick: > First thing is first, ifyou switch, you need to throw your Windows and Jaws > knowledge out the Window. Remember, this is a new operati

Re: mac vs jfw

2010-12-03 Thread Kimberly thurman
My suggestion is to get a Mac before your windows machine dies so you can learn the Mac at your leisure, while you are still productive in windows. That's what I did anyhow, and it worked out great. On Dec 3, 2010, at 3:14 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > Hi, Rick, > > The first thing to be aware

Re: mac vs jfw

2010-12-03 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
I'd like to make one personal comment here which is that I'm using Safari more and more not just to get information but am now buying on line with it more and I prefer it as it's easier than IE unless the websites don't want to work with Safari There are a lot of them still. Kawal. On 4 Dec 201

Re: mac vs jfw

2010-12-03 Thread heather kd5cbl
Hay Sarai the link did not work! Can you post again! Heather - Original Message - From: "Sarai Bucciarelli" To: Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 6:26 PM Subject: Re: mac vs jfw Hi Rick: First thing is first, ifyou switch, you need to throw your Windows and Jaws knowled

Re: mac vs jfw

2010-12-03 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Hi Rick: First thing is first, ifyou switch, you need to throw your Windows and Jaws knowledge out the Window. Remember, this is a new operating system, so you have to start from the ground up. You can go to www.blindcooltch.com, and download all podcasts by Mike Arrigo. He does a very good job

Re: mac vs jfw

2010-12-03 Thread Scott Granados
n I use Voice Over > it's speedy! > On 3 Dec 2010, at 23:21, heather kd5cbl wrote: > >> Isn't that the truth! Heather >> >> - Original Message - From: "Scott Granados" >> >> To: >> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 4:56 PM &

Re: mac vs jfw

2010-12-03 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
mber 03, 2010 4:56 PM > Subject: Re: mac vs jfw > > > ANd unlike the JFW, VO actually stays up and running more than it crashes.:) > > On Dec 3, 2010, at 12:16 PM, Kevin Shaw wrote: > >> Hi Rick, >> >> JAWS and Voiceover perform well as screen readers. th

Re: mac vs jfw

2010-12-03 Thread heather kd5cbl
Isn't that the truth! Heather - Original Message - From: "Scott Granados" To: Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 4:56 PM Subject: Re: mac vs jfw ANd unlike the JFW, VO actually stays up and running more than it crashes.:) On Dec 3, 2010, at 12:16 PM, Kevin Shaw w

Re: mac vs jfw

2010-12-03 Thread Scott Granados
ANd unlike the JFW, VO actually stays up and running more than it crashes.:) On Dec 3, 2010, at 12:16 PM, Kevin Shaw wrote: > Hi Rick, > > JAWS and Voiceover perform well as screen readers. they work on different > principles and comparing one to the other is like comparing a car to a > motorc

Re: mac vs jfw

2010-12-03 Thread Kevin Shaw
Hi Rick, JAWS and Voiceover perform well as screen readers. they work on different principles and comparing one to the other is like comparing a car to a motorcycle. They both take you from A to B, but each requires a different method of negotiation and navigation. Voiceover will do everything

Re: mac vs jfw

2010-12-03 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Rick, The first thing to be aware of is that you have to throw all your Windows knowledge of keystrokes, etc. out the window and start from scratch. Personally, I love learning new stuff, but sometimes folks don't. That's the biggest concept. Even so, you can still dual-boot with Windows sh

mac vs jfw

2010-12-03 Thread richard watson
Good afternoon, my name is rick watson. Currently I have a 7 year old hp pc running windows xp media center and jaws for windows. I also have an iphone 3gs and love it! Because I realize that it is going to come time to replace the pc I am considering a mac. most uses include media, word processing