RE: Slow Startup, Was Re: Text edit and Lion

2012-04-06 Thread Missy Hoppe
;ll have to wait for Mountain lion and hope for better things then? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 7:54 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Slow Startup, W

Slow Startup, Was Re: Text edit and Lion

2012-04-05 Thread Teresa Cochran
The slow startup without speech is a separate problem. Someone posted on the list that it's a bug, and the results are the same for me whether I checked that box or not. Most of the time I just close everything before logging out. Teresa "Slow down; you'll get there faster." On Apr 5, 2012, a

Re: Text edit and Lion

2012-04-05 Thread Veronica Elsea
Hmmm, I gave up on unchecking that box every time I shut down quite awhile ago. Most of the time I'll hear finder is running in the background, and then I can alt-tab to the desktop. But sometimes it's just silent and I haven't quite been at this long enough to know how fast a MacBook air shoul

Re: Text edit and Lion

2012-04-05 Thread Les Kriegler
Hi Veronica, Well, if I have the restore Windows at startup option checked, I'm now getting speech. Since it's going to remain checked anyway, I figure I might as well now leave it at that setting; it was unchecked before. Unless I cannot re-boot, I close programs before a re-start or shut do

RE: Text edit and Lion

2012-04-05 Thread Missy Hoppe
: Thursday, April 05, 2012 6:54 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Text edit and Lion I usually have to alt-tab to my desktop when I first boot up. Sometimes VO talks and sometimes it doesn't. Veronica At 03:16 PM 4/5/2012, you wrote: >Hi Ann, > >The problem is th

Re: Text edit and Lion

2012-04-05 Thread Veronica Elsea
I usually have to alt-tab to my desktop when I first boot up. Sometimes VO talks and sometimes it doesn't. Veronica At 03:16 PM 4/5/2012, you wrote: Hi Ann, The problem is that regardless of whether the box is checked or not in System Preferences, when you go to shut down or restart under L

Re: Text edit and Lion

2012-04-05 Thread Les Kriegler
Hi Ann, The problem is that regardless of whether the box is checked or not in System Preferences, when you go to shut down or restart under Lion, the Windows checkbox is checked. I confirmed this behavior after speaking with an Apple rep. He stated, and it is apparently the case, that one ha

Re: Text edit and Lion

2012-04-05 Thread Veronica Elsea
Thanks again, Anne, Ricardo and everyone for the help. And yes, that silly check box that would reopen all windows in any application was unchecked the first time I snooped around in the general tab of system preferences. Is there one place where the Lion changes or differences are described? T

Re: Text edit and Lion

2012-04-05 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Veronica, It's best to start from the document rather than the application. Find your document and press Cmd-o and when VoiceOver says "Edit text", interact and all the VoiceOver commands will work. However, before trying that, open System Preferences and go to the General pane and unche

Re: Text edit and Lion

2012-04-05 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, this is because text edit is opening with no document. So, if you want a new document, press command N. If you want to brows and open an existing document, at launch of text edit, you should be placed into the browser. if you press the down arrow, this should be confirmed. Ricardo Walke

RE: Text edit and Lion

2012-04-05 Thread Missy Hoppe
available. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 2:34 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Text edit and Lion Okay, continuing. First, I did double-check

Re: Text edit and Lion

2012-04-05 Thread Veronica Elsea
Okay, continuing. First, I did double-check my settings in the navis indeesection of the VoiceOver utility and it is indeed set to keyboard focus. Here's what happens when I open a file in Text edit. First I open the application. I'm beginning to think I should just go in through the documents

Re: Text edit and Lion

2012-04-05 Thread Veronica Elsea
Thanks Matt, Anne and all of you for the Lion education. Now if only I could change the default state of that check box in the shut down the computer dialog. Oh well, progress, eh? Thanks again. Veronica Watch and hear The Guide Dog Glee Club sing The Star-spangled Banner at http://www.youtub

Re: Text edit and Lion

2012-04-05 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Veronica, Quite a lot has changed from Snow Leopard to Lion. One of the most annoying is that, by default, windows left open are not closed when you quit an application. You can change this behaviour in System Preferences. Go to the General pane and look for the check box labelled Restore

Re: Text edit and Lion

2012-04-05 Thread Matthew Campbell
Hi Veronica. The reason that text edit isn't bringing up the save dialog when you quit it, is because of versions. If you want this to come up, press command S or close the window containing the document. This is a feature to help people who have a bad habit of closing things and not saving them

Re: Text edit and Lion

2012-04-05 Thread Maxwell Ivey
Hello; but if you are editing html its another reason to create a back up file or folder of your website before working in the new text edit. we will all get there, max On Apr 5, 2012, at 12:18 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > Hi Veronica. > I can tebbl you that I been glad more than once that my

Re: Text edit and Lion

2012-04-05 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi Veronica. I can tebbl you that I been glad more than once that my computer saved things for my own good. I was a little bit used to it because I had a braille Lite 40 for nine years that sa"ed utomatically. Hang there. You'll get there. Regards, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.

Re: Text edit and Lion

2012-04-05 Thread Veronica Elsea
Hi Anne! I will check the setting in the voiceOver utility to see how they're set. But I am talking about opening a file within TextEdit. I'm just following along with the mp3 tutorials that David Woodbridge did, although Lion wasn't out yet when he did them. In his demo, when he finished writ

Re: Text edit and Lion

2012-04-05 Thread Gigi
Hi Veronica Pages does something different then TextEdit. Pages makes a backup file that actually says back up before the name of your file in it. This has saved me a few times. I also got myself a drive that would work with Time Machine. Time machine is a program that does automatic backups eve

Re: Text edit and Lion

2012-04-05 Thread Gigi
Hi a.m. Actually, it hasn't been happening for me either if I decide not to save changes to do command W if I have already saved the file with Phylbeck. I noticed that if I haven't yet saved it and I do command W, then I do get the option to save or not. Is it I have something in system press pr

Re: Text edit and Lion

2012-04-04 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Veronica, On 5 Apr 2012, at 06:02, Veronica Elsea wrote: > One of the most annoying things I can't get around comes in Text Edit. I > can't believe there's no warning when it over writes a file and that no > matter what I do, it just saves it when I quit. I don't know what you mean about

Text edit and Lion

2012-04-04 Thread Veronica Elsea
Hi everyone! I have a new MacBook air and this is my first adventure with VoiceOver on a Mac computer. I have read the Getting started book, which did give me some minimal starting points. I'm now going through the tutorials done by David Woodbridge. Obviously there are a few things that must