Re: the dock, is likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-28 Thread Karen Lewellen
Thanks much Jonathan, When I first had the mac configured I insured that both voiceover, and voice control were active, I have not tried it as of yet. To be honest, I would hope to blend the use, hopefully I can type my own messages, but would say send or open things as it were. On Tue, 28 J

Re: the dock, is likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-28 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Care, I turn on voice command on my computer, and said "switch to mail". I then told it two "click reply" That opened this message. The dictation with Voice Command was not that great though. And I am typing that with voice command. I did do some editing, and now I will say "click "click se

Re: the dock, is likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-28 Thread Karen Lewellen
what I mean by a more fluid display layout is one that would have resulted in what Herbie indicated being the case. a text field where a program name can be typed. knowing about vo-z will be helpful, assuming the keystroke is not too challenging finger wise. I have small hands, and this is re

Re: likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-28 Thread Karen Lewellen
and is Vim an apple provided program comparative to textedit? On Tue, 28 Jun 2022, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries wrote: Maybe you should run Vim and never have to take your hands away from the main keyboard while editing. On 26/6/22 19:57, Karen Lewellen wrote: Hi folks, One thing I a

Re: the dock, is likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-28 Thread Karen Lewellen
For the stores that provide lessons that is the case...and according to main Apple support, there are rather a few. to be sure the Pandemic is impacting locations providing the service, but I had more than one choice here. On Tue, 28 Jun 2022, Les Kriegler wrote: Well, you are very fortu

Re: the dock, is likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-28 Thread Karen Lewellen
Thanks Jonathan, My mac partner is enjoying the voiceover adventure, might want to do it with the tool, just wanted to give him choices. Interestingly enough when I went through the voices part of the voiceover tutorial, there are not 200 from which to choose. Is there a list anywhere? Outside

Re: the dock, is likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-28 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Hello, I am not sure what you mean by a fluid layout, there might be a way to adjust VoiceOver to work this way if I am understanding what you want. Are you looking to avoid the interact/stop interact functions? To repeat what VoiceOver just said, press VO-z. (if you make the Z uppercase, it sav

Re: likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-28 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
Maybe you should run Vim and never have to take your hands away from the main keyboard while editing. On 26/6/22 19:57, Karen Lewellen wrote: Hi folks, One thing I am personally finding I seriously need is  basic keyboard typing practice. On my main computers, because I have been using  them f

Re: the dock, is likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-28 Thread Les Kriegler
Well, you are very fortunate then. Because I don’t think that is typical. But I am glad to know that you were able to find a quiet environment in which to work. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 28, 2022, at 6:41 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: > > The voices are retrieved from VoiceOver Utility. I don't

Re: the dock, is likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-28 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Karen, you will travel your own path of discovery. Each of us have our own unique challenge but for the most part, we can seek solutions here because most of us are grounded in daily use of Voiceover. From E.T.'s Keyboard... "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent re

Re: the dock, is likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-28 Thread Jonathan Cohn
The voices are retrieved from VoiceOver Utility. I don't believe you need VoiceOver running to do this. Here are the seps that a sighted person would do as best as I can tell. Open the finder 2. In a finder window use the Go menu to switch to utilities 3. Open the program 4. Click on speech in

Re: the dock, is likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-28 Thread Karen Lewellen
Actually, speaking only for myself, this is not correct. The apple location where I intend visiting is the same one where I would previously go and seek a safe for my use IOS voice. They have a small room where they provide classes, are allowing me to speak with the technician in advance, as we

Re: the dock, is likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-28 Thread Karen Lewellen
You mean like the voiceover users at apple accessibility? who 1, gave me wrong information corrected on this list more than once. 2. began to claim I needed to upgrade in the middle of a crisis? To be honest, my experiences have been more positive with general apple staff than the, by your defi

Re: the dock, is likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-28 Thread Les Kriegler
In addition, unless things have changed, I think you would be very disappointed if you go to an Apple Store for training. It is a very noisy environment and even if you can find someone know something about voiceover, I don’t think you’re going to get the results you desire by going there. Sent

Re: the dock, is likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-28 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
An Apple store visit is fine but there is nothing ;like working with a Voiceover user who uses VO day in day out. If you have sighted helper, yes you can turn VO off. From E.T.'s Keyboard... "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." --John

Re: the dock, is likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-28 Thread Karen Lewellen
That is what an apple store is for. My first priority to be honest is getting a solid enough voice. The onboard tutorial is helping, but again I am far more used to greater keyboard dexterity, meaning I will make mistakes while trying to learn voiceover itself. Oh yet another question on that

Re: the dock, is likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-28 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Karen, I would strongly suggest you put your focus solely on mastering Voiceover before venturing into other areas. Get a handle on the Voiceover commands as well as those the the standard Mac commands. Find a local Voiceover user and invite him/her to come over and work with you. From

the dock, is likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-28 Thread Karen Lewellen
Well...apparently I must have missed a detail. going to the dock does not let you type a program name at all. It does put you on a list, but as I am still finding or configuring a solidly understandable voice, not all programs are well easy to follow. Again part of why I want to run text edit

Re: likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-27 Thread Karen Lewellen
ah okay then, doing that correctly laughs. On Mon, 27 Jun 2022, Herbie Allen wrote: It’s the first thing on your Doc. Hit enter, on Finder, and you’re good to go.D On Jun 27, 2022, at 21:30, Karen Lewellen wrote: and just to confirm, the command to open the finder? On Mon, 27 Jun 2022,

Re: likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-27 Thread Herbie Allen
It’s the first thing on your Doc. Hit enter, on Finder, and you’re good to go.D > On Jun 27, 2022, at 21:30, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > and just to confirm, the command to open the finder? > > > > On Mon, 27 Jun 2022, Herbie Allen wrote: > >> VO D is the Doc, VO Shift D is the Desktop. A lot

Re: likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-27 Thread Karen Lewellen
and just to confirm, the command to open the finder? On Mon, 27 Jun 2022, Herbie Allen wrote: VO D is the Doc, VO Shift D is the Desktop. A lot of default apps are in the Doc, but if not, Open the finder and do a Command shift A. This will bring up the apps folder. You can also use Siri t

Re: likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-27 Thread Karen Lewellen
absolutely no on siri, Someone downloaded her to an old iPhone rendering it unusable because of the voice frequency ranges. Do appreciate the keystroke commands. its a fine example of what I would love to do with voice control too. On Mon, 27 Jun 2022, Herbie Allen wrote: VO D is the Doc,

Re: likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-27 Thread Herbie Allen
VO D is the Doc, VO Shift D is the Desktop. A lot of default apps are in the Doc, but if not, Open the finder and do a Command shift A. This will bring up the apps folder. You can also use Siri to open apps. > On Jun 26, 2022, at 22:18, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > I am not interested in runnin

Re: likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-26 Thread Karen Lewellen
I am not interested in running the terminal if voiceover is not 100% no idea how to even get there. Are applications normally in the docs? Something I read from another voiceover source suggested that vo-d just takes you to the desktop. Still want to access voiceover help keys and the like, w

Re: likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-26 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Hello, If applications are in the dock then pressing the VO-D then the first few letters of the applications followed by return will launch the application. Alternatively, you could use the open command in terminal. open -a textedit will open and activate the textedit application open myDocument.

likely a silly question about the mac desktop.

2022-06-26 Thread Karen Lewellen
Hi folks, One thing I am personally finding I seriously need is basic keyboard typing practice. On my main computers, because I have been using them for so many years, I am a swift typist who is very very very used to keeping my hands on the main keyboard and knowing where I am from a screen

Re: Silly Question

2019-04-09 Thread 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries
work it out. >>>>> >>>>>> On 8/04/2019, at 2:28 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>>>>> >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> No. But. Both items

Re: Silly Question

2019-04-08 Thread Georgina Joyce
if I can work it out. >>>> >>>>> On 8/04/2019, at 2:28 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>>>> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> No. But. Both items are on the menu

Re: Silly Question

2019-04-08 Thread Anne Robertson
oups.com>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> No. But. Both items are on the menu extras, accessed with VO m m. You >>>> also can get the time I believe with option t. >>>> >>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>> anci

Re: Silly Question

2019-04-08 Thread Paul Parravano
What if it were true? On 4/7/2019 7:18 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote: Hi all, I have a silly question. Is there a Voice Over key combination to get voice over to read out the time or battery level? I Remember on my old windows computer it used to be the JAWS key with F12, for the time. Is there a si

Re: Silly Question

2019-04-07 Thread Anne Robertson
ve with option t. >> >> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com> >> Many believe that we have been visited >> in the past. What if it were true? >> >> On 4/7/2019 7:18 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote: >>> Hi all

Re: Silly Question

2019-04-07 Thread Maurice Mines
Hello, I’m suggest you try doing the following, one do video plus m twice in quick succession. This will open up the extras menu, then arrow to the right. When you do this you are going to run into status notifications of various programs one of those programs that you will get the status o

Re: Silly Question

2019-04-07 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
x27;s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 4/7/2019 7:18 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote: Hi all, I have a silly question. Is there a Voice Over key combination to get voice over to re

Re: Silly Question

2019-04-07 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
> > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > Many believe that we have been visited > in the past. What if it were true? > > On 4/7/2019 7:18 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote: >> Hi all, >> I have a silly question. Is there a Voice Over key combination

Re: Silly Question

2019-04-07 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
wrote: Hi all, I have a silly question. Is there a Voice Over key combination to get voice over to read out the time or battery level? I Remember on my old windows computer it used to be the JAWS key with F12, for the time. Is there a similar key combo for voice over? I’ve used VO K for keyboard

Silly Question

2019-04-07 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Hi all, I have a silly question. Is there a Voice Over key combination to get voice over to read out the time or battery level? I Remember on my old windows computer it used to be the JAWS key with F12, for the time. Is there a similar key combo for voice over? I’ve used VO K for keyboard help

Re: Silly Question: Flash

2014-07-03 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Unfortunately, the BBC have decided to insist on Flash on the desktop, and provide HTML5 only to iOS. You can use tools like get_iplayer to work around this, of course, but meh. As long as there are content publishers who use DRM, Flash will always have a place, sadly. I'd like this to change, o

Re: Silly Question: Flash

2014-06-30 Thread Jason White
Mike Arrigo wrote: > The problem is with Adobe, they have said in the past that they don't think > there are enough blind mac users to make it accessible. Also, flash is > slowly giving way to html 5, any web site that still insists on using flash > is lagging behind the times. Indeed it is. Rely

Re: Silly Question: Flash

2014-06-30 Thread Mike Arrigo
e are with regard to Flash on OS X, or is it the same old game of passing the ball? Yeah, I know, silly question and I already know the answer, but I'll ask anyway. :) The BBC have made the regrettable decision to continue using Flash, even on Macs, in spite of accessibility issues. Thi

Re: Silly Question: Flash

2014-06-28 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
It's what David says, Flash from Adobe. Don't know what the number is. So put in Google, Flash from Adobe and it should come up. Sorry about the mix up. Kawal. > On 29 Jun 2014, at 12:37 am, Jason White wrote: > > Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >> All I know that there is a new flash an HTMl one and

Re: Silly Question: Flash

2014-06-28 Thread Jason White
Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > All I know that there is a new flash an HTMl one and I thought it was Flash > 5. OK I might have got the number wrong, but you can look for flash HTML > flash. Extremely accessible. Are you sure it's Flash? Might it be HTML 5 video instead? -- You received this messa

Re: Silly Question: Flash

2014-06-28 Thread David Chittenden
:55, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: > > Anyone know where we are with regard to Flash on OS X, or is it the same old > game of passing the ball? > > Yeah, I know, silly question and I already know the answer, but I'll ask > anyway. :) > > The BBC have made the regrettable decisi

Re: Silly Question: Flash

2014-06-28 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
All I know that there is a new flash an HTMl one and I thought it was Flash 5. OK I might have got the number wrong, but you can look for flash HTML flash. Extremely accessible. Kawal. > On 28 Jun 2014, at 09:59 pm, Tim Kilburn wrote: > > Hi, > > I'll ask a silly questi

Re: Silly Question: Flash

2014-06-28 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, I'll ask a silly question as well. What is Flash Five? I've got Flash Player 14 installed which, I've understood to be the newest. Is there something I'm missing? As of a couple of weeks ago when attending an Adobe Connect meeting, which uses Flash, it was not ac

Re: Silly Question: Flash

2014-06-28 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
same old > game of passing the ball? > > Yeah, I know, silly question and I already know the answer, but I'll ask > anyway. :) > > The BBC have made the regrettable decision to continue using Flash, even on > Macs, in spite of accessibility issues. This makes me

Silly Question: Flash

2014-06-28 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Anyone know where we are with regard to Flash on OS X, or is it the same old game of passing the ball? Yeah, I know, silly question and I already know the answer, but I'll ask anyway. :) The BBC have made the regrettable decision to continue using Flash, even on Macs, in spi

Re: a probably silly question about the IPhone

2012-02-20 Thread Jeffrey Wheatley
Perfect - I had the keyboard setting for caps lock turned off… With it turned on, both triple tap of shift, and split double tap of shift enable caps lock. Thanks! On Feb 20, 2012, at 8:00 AM, Garth Humphreys wrote: > Do a triple tap on the shift. If this doesn't work for you, go into settings

Re: a probably silly question about the IPhone

2012-02-20 Thread Garth Humphreys
Do a triple tap on the shift. If this doesn't work for you, go into settings, General and Keyboard and make sure you have the Caps Lock feature enabled. Garth @BlindTechMusing On 20/02/2012, at 3:18 PM, Jeffrey Wheatley wrote: > This sounds very useful, but I have been unsuccessful getting

Re: a probably silly question about the IPhone

2012-02-19 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, Just triple tap the shift button. It will stay active until you double tap it to turn it off. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Feb 20, 2012, at 12:18 AM, Jeffrey Wheatley wrote: > This sounds very useful, but I have been unsucces

Re: a probably silly question about the IPhone

2012-02-19 Thread Jeffrey Wheatley
This sounds very useful, but I have been unsuccessful getting it to work. I want to get a caps-lock effect so I can tap multiple capital letters in a row. When I am in touch typing mode, I touch the Shift key with one finger, keep my finger in place, and then use another finger to tap twice. My

Re: a probably silly question about the IPhone

2012-02-17 Thread Jean-Claude Provost
Hi Ann (& y'all), Yeh thanks, it finally worked. I tried triple-tapping & quad-tapping:-) to no avail. The split-tapping was indeed the ticket… Thanks for the info… On the subject of IPhone-related questions appearing on this list, maybe it's a trend that will continue, given the foreseen sy

Re: a probably silly question about the IPhone

2012-02-15 Thread Matt Dierckens
It is already selected. But I'll double check. Matt Sent from my macbook pro On 2012-02-15, at 4:16 PM, Brett C. wrote: > You may need to go to your phone settings, general, keyboard, and enable caps > lock. > > Brett C. > > On Feb 15, 2012, at 12:10 PM, James Scholes wrote: > >> The first le

Re: a probably silly question about the IPhone

2012-02-15 Thread Brett C.
You may need to go to your phone settings, general, keyboard, and enable caps lock. Brett C. On Feb 15, 2012, at 12:10 PM, James Scholes wrote: > The first letter of a sentence, or the first letter you type in a text field, > is usually always capitalised. Thus, type your first letter, then a

Re: a probably silly question about the IPhone

2012-02-15 Thread James Scholes
The first letter of a sentence, or the first letter you type in a text field, is usually always capitalised. Thus, type your first letter, then activate shift lock. -- James Scholes http://twitter.com/JamesScholes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "

Re: a probably silly question about the IPhone

2012-02-15 Thread Matt Dierckens
Yeah I did. I tped a letter, then typed another, and it just did a lower case letter. Matt Sent from my macbook pro On 2012-02-15, at 1:44 PM, James Scholes wrote: > Matt Dierckens wrote: >> Hi, I couldn't get this to work. Tried to do as you suggested for shift >> lock, and it just goes shift,

Re: a probably silly question about the IPhone

2012-02-15 Thread James Scholes
Matt Dierckens wrote: > Hi, I couldn't get this to work. Tried to do as you suggested for shift lock, > and it just goes shift, and selected shift. Did you actually try typing after tripple-tapping Shift? Because that is exactly what VO is supposed to say. -- James Scholes http://twitter.com/Ja

Re: a probably silly question about the IPhone

2012-02-15 Thread Matt Dierckens
Hi, I couldn't get this to work. Tried to do as you suggested for shift lock, and it just goes shift, and selected shift. Matt Sent from my macbook pro On 2012-02-15, at 10:47 AM, Alex Hall wrote: > Alternatively, move to shift, then tap three times. The tripple tap > with vo on is the same as t

Re: a probably silly question about the IPhone

2012-02-15 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Well, you tap shift four times quickly. At least, that's how I seem to remember it. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Feb 15, 2012, at 8:58 AM, Jean-Claude Provost wrote: >

Re: a probably silly question about the IPhone

2012-02-15 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi Wes. First, we ask questions about iPhones and iPads on here all the time. Many times they relate to the Mac anyway, and they are starting to be closely related questions too. It is not a is not a silly question on the iPhone that you asked. I couldn't get it to work at first, un

Re: a probably silly question about the IPhone

2012-02-15 Thread Wes Smith
If you do the s Sent from my iPhone On Feb 15, 2012, at 7:58 AM, Jean-Claude Provost wrote: Hi all, I hope the moderators will forgive my slightly off-topic question on this list… In my defence, I don't do this often:-) How does one toggle the caps-lock function. The user guide says to tap

Re: a probably silly question about the IPhone

2012-02-15 Thread Alex Hall
Alternatively, move to shift, then tap three times. The tripple tap with vo on is the same as the double tap with vo off. As Anne pointed out, split tapping twice does the same thing, which I didn't know. On 2/15/12, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Jean-Claude, > > To put the shift lock on, place o

Re: a probably silly question about the IPhone

2012-02-15 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Jean-Claude, To put the shift lock on, place one finger on Shift and tap twice with another finger. To take the shift lock off again, place one finger on Shift and tap once with another finger. I'm in touchtyping mode. A un de ces quatre, Anne On 15 Feb 2012, at 15:58, Jean-Claude Provo

a probably silly question about the IPhone

2012-02-15 Thread Jean-Claude Provost
Hi all, I hope the moderators will forgive my slightly off-topic question on this list… In my defence, I don't do this often:-) How does one toggle the caps-lock function. The user guide says to tap shift twice but, obviously, this can't work when using VoiceOver. Thanks in advance for your