Karen, I would strongly suggest you put your focus solely on
mastering Voiceover before venturing into other areas. Get a handle on
the Voiceover commands as well as those the the standard Mac commands.
Find a local Voiceover user and invite him/her to come over and work
with you.
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On 6/28/2022 1:49 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
Well...apparently I must have missed a detail.
going to the dock does not let you type a program name at all. It does
put you on a list, but as I am still finding or configuring a solidly
understandable voice, not all programs are well easy to follow.
Again part of why I want to run text edit, typing practice that does not
cause a problem.
and on another note, there seem to be groups everywhere,
Honestly I am working from the assumption that should I manage to launch
text edit I would end up on a text field.
I might add, that there is not a more fluid display layout...its quite
frustrating when I cannot discover how to repeat what I just heard, and
there is an identifier of a command I still cannot translate.
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022, Herbie Allen wrote:
It’s the first thing on your Doc. Hit enter, on Finder, and you’re
good to go.D
On Jun 27, 2022, at 21:30, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net>
wrote:
and just to confirm, the command to open the finder?
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022, Herbie Allen wrote:
VO D is the Doc, VO Shift D is the Desktop. A lot of default apps
are in the Doc, but if not, Open the finder and do a Command shift
A. This will bring up the apps folder. You can also use Siri to
open apps.
On Jun 26, 2022, at 22:18, Karen Lewellen
<klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
I am not interested in running the terminal if voiceover is not
100% no idea how to even get there.
Are applications normally in the docs?
Something I read from another voiceover source suggested that vo-d
just takes you to the desktop.
Still want to access voiceover help keys and the like, which do
not seem to be terminal associated.
Likewise pages could serve the same typing practice goal.
All of my Linux Ubuntu shell work is via a service, called
shellworld, using my non Linux screen reader.
On Sun, 26 Jun 2022, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
Hello,
If applications are in the dock then pressing the VO-D then the
first few letters of the applications followed by return will
launch the application.
Alternatively, you could use the open command in terminal.
open -a textedit
will open and activate the textedit application
open myDocument.txt
will open myDocument.txt in the default application for that file
open -a textedit myDocument.txt
will open myDocument.txt in the textedit application
Here is some more info:
joncohn@speedy ~ %
open: unrecognized option `--help'
Usage: open [-e] [-t] [-f] [-W] [-R] [-n] [-g] [-h] [-s <partial
SDK name>][-b <bundle identifier>] [-a <application>] [-u URL]
[filenames] [--args arguments]
Help: Open opens files from a shell.
By default, opens each file using the default application for
that file.
If the file is in the form of a URL, the file will be opened as
a URL.
Options:
-a Opens with the specified application.
-b Opens with the specified application
bundle identifier.
-e Opens with TextEdit.
-t Opens with default text editor.
-f Reads input from standard input and opens
with TextEdit.
-F --fresh Launches the app fresh, that is, without
restoring windows. Saved persistent state is lost, excluding
Untitled documents.
-R, --reveal Selects in the Finder instead of opening.
-W, --wait-apps Blocks until the used applications are
closed (even if they were already running).
--args All remaining arguments are passed in
argv to the application's main() function instead of opened.
-n, --new Open a new instance of the application
even if one is already running.
-j, --hide Launches the app hidden.
-g, --background Does not bring the application to the
foreground.
-h, --header Searches header file locations for
headers matching the given filenames, and opens them.
-s For -h, the SDK to use; if supplied, only
SDKs whose names contain the argument value are searched.
Otherwise the highest versioned SDK in
each platform is used.
-u, --url URL Open this URL, even if it matches exactly
a filepath
-i, --stdin PATH Launches the application with stdin
connected to PATH; defaults to /dev/null
-o, --stdout PATH Launches the application with /dev/stdout
connected to PATH;
--stderr PATH Launches the application with /dev/stderr
connected to PATH to
--env VAR Add an enviroment variable to the
launched process, where VAR is formatted AAA=foo or just AAA for a
null string value.
Jonathan Cohn
On Jun 26, 2022, at 19:57, Karen Lewellen
<klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
Hi folks,
One thing I am personally finding I seriously need is basic
keyboard typing practice.
On my main computers, because I have been using them for so many
years, I am a swift typist who is very very very used to keeping
my hands on the main keyboard and knowing where I am from a
screen reader standpoint as well.
I am personally feeling that some time with either textedit, or
pages, will let me just practice typing with no fear that I will
set something off with the mac itself.
I want to be so solid with my typing that entering my password
without input will be effortless, I doubt I can turn off having
to provide his for my apple ID for example.
so, at this stage, what is the fastest way to load textedit? say
using the menu bar, if that is an option?
I will want to know as well how to keep certain programs I use
often either in the finder, or in the menu, bar, which ever is
most practical.
I am used to just typing whatever starts the program, I never
used windows at all.
Ideas?
Kare
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