I never knew about command-shift-brackets, thanks. I just use control-tab or
control-shift-tab, though neither ever felt very Apple-like since Apple rarely
uses control as a modifier for a menu command.
> On Jan 12, 2015, at 5:25 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
> wrote:
>
> If the link d
If the link did open in a new tab you can use command shift left bracket
to move to the previous tab or command shift right bracket to move to
the next tab. Either one will cycle you through all the tabs. If it's
multiple windows then you have to use command accent to switch back to
the previou
One another back command is: vo-cmd+home, then you will here «back/forward
group» hit vo+space. Once in a while, try cmd-left arrow, just to check. I also
have full qwerty/Numeric usb keyboard. A while back cmd+left arrow did not
work, but now it does.
Take care
11. jan. 2015 kl. 01:05 skrev L
Keychain saves usernames, passwords, and the like. If you visit a login page
you've visited before, and if you previously saved the login information for
that page, you will find the username and password filled in when the page
loads, no need to do anything.
As to the Back command, I'm not sur
If a table is long, to get to the first cell in the first row, press fn+vo+left
arrow. To get to the last cell of the table in the last row, press fn+vo+right
arrow.
Also, if you have a few tables present, to move to a table on a page press
vo+command+t. You can do it repeatedly to move quickly
if u have multiple tables with colums do you have to vo left and vo
wrote to go to colums with in a table?
not sure if this makes any sense.
Hank
On 8/16/2012 10:48 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
I see that no-one has so far discussed tables with you. While interacting
within a table in HTML content,
I see that no-one has so far discussed tables with you. While interacting
within a table in HTML content, use the VO-Arrow keys to move around in the
table. So to move up and down, hold down the VO keys and use up and down
arrows. That should move you down in the same column and not push back
In a web page command option F takes you directly to google search
from what I can tell in ML Command L and this previous command serve
the same exact function
On Aug 8, 12:20 am, Veronica Elsea
wrote:
> Oh how nice. I didn't realize that one could also search with command-L.
> So when would one
Command-S on a web page gives one the option to save/export the current page.
Les
On Aug 8, 2012, at 12:25 AM, Rachel Feinberg wrote:
> I believe command F searches just the current page or area you're on, Whereas
> command L gets you to the search field for google or to enter a web address.
>
I believe command F searches just the current page or area you're on, Whereas
command L gets you to the search field for google or to enter a web address.
On Aug 7, 2012, at 9:20 PM, Veronica Elsea
wrote:
> Oh how nice. I didn't realize that one could also search with command-L. So
> when wou
Oh how nice. I didn't realize that one could also search with command-L.
So when would one use Command-F? And where would this command look for
things? Thanks so much.
Veronica
Watch and hear Veronica Elsea's Prayer for a Soldier at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoIhWrBHFI
Then find more
Hi Veronica,
For the keystroke to quickly go to the address bar where you can either google
search, or type in a URL is command+l.
I'll wait, (along with you), for someone to explain tables, since i'm still new
to this as well.
Rachel
On Aug 7, 2012, at 8:40 PM, Veronica Elsea
wrote:
> Hi eve
Group mode is another way to browse web pages. Basically, voiceover groups
items, such as a list together, if you want to read the items in a group, you
interact with the group. I generally don't use group mode because there's too
much interacting involved, but some people find it useful. You ca
Carolybn, you are the best. I didn't know about command space.
I shared this with Gary as well, since though he is not a vo user and his more
advanced than I on the Mac, he is learning as well though he really is way
ahead of me.
Marlaina
On Dec 18, 2010, at 11:11 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
Hi M
Hi Marlaina:
Here's something else you can do to start to feel more comfortable with your
mac. Press the command key and spacebar. This is called spotlight search.
Now, type in either users guide or getting started. All of this info is
actually right here on your mac, or easily reached on lin
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 2:23 AM, Marlaina Lieberg <1guide...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok, I went to the chapter and once again, Apple's documentation is messy for
> me. it talks clearly about doing vo hh and typing dom, but then it goes on
> to suggest that I assign a key for keyboard commander, but
Hi Benjamin,
Thanks for providing the text case. My configuration matches yours exactly (I
have 10.6.5 installed) but my results vary from what you and Ricardo report in
both Safari and the latest Webkit version.
When I launch the URL referenced below and navigate to the level 1 heading
conta
Ok, I went to the chapter and once again, Apple's documentation is messy for
me. it talks clearly about doing vo hh and typing dom, but then it goes on to
suggest that I assign a key for keyboard commander, but doesn't tell me how to
do that or give me a link to where that is found.
I guess I'
I'll give that a shot Benjamin, but I have a hard time with apple's
documentation and haven't learned much that way. But, I'll try.
Marlaina
On Dec 17, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote:
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Marlaina Lieberg <1guide...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok I'm sorry,
Interesting, Ricardo. Today in my one to one, we were dis ussing the fact the
VO often doesn't give any indication that it's doing what you've asked it to
do. I know in that other unmentionable system, it's an option one can turn on
and off by the degree of verbosity. But I don't recall wheth
So if VO isn't talking, but the shift down arrow is selecting, isn't that
something about which we should write to Apple? Gary, my sighted husband, told
me that shift down arrow works for him just as it does in windows.
Marlaina
On Dec 17, 2010, at 3:43 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
Hi Geoff,
W
Thabnks Carolyn. I do have a file called voiceover hints for just that purpose.
Marlaina
On Dec 17, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
Marlaina:
Just a tiny bit of advice from someone who is still just beginning to
understand this stuff. Don't try to remember it as you get it. Collect or
If the text you want is in several items, admitedly, you will need to follow
the procedure for each item, in that case, your method may actually be faster.
On Dec 17, 2010, at 3:45 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
> Ok Mike,
>
> I just went to
> http://www.vegancoach.com/how-to-cook-a-turnip.html
>
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Marlaina Lieberg <1guide...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok I'm sorry, but what is group mode, how do I switch to it and how do I know
> when I want to switch to it?
See http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/_1134.html#mchlp2711
--
Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
--
You recei
Ok I'm sorry, but what is group mode, how do I switch to it and how do I know
when I want to switch to it?
Marlaina
On Dec 17, 2010, at 2:11 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
Hi, The control option shift c method is a pain on that particular webpage. I
made it a bit less daunting by switching to gr
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
> That or you may want to perform a modicum of testing before sending your
> posts?
I _did_ do a modicum of testing. Specifically, I fired up Safari and
VoiceOver and tested out the effect of shift-arrow on an existing
select all and to start
Hi Geoff,
What Benjamin said, seems to be accurate in my case. I went to a web page and
pressed shift down arrow a few times, then pressed command C. Then I opened up
text edit and pasted and there was the lines of text from the webpage. While I
was selecting, Voiceover gave me no speech fee
Benjamin,
I'm beginning to have the impression that either we can not communicate or
you're using entirely different software than what is being discussed here.
I'd suggest that we take this part of the discussion off line so as not to
spread bogus info. That or you may want to perform a modi
Marlaina:
Just a tiny bit of advice from someone who is still just beginning to
understand this stuff. Don't try to remember it as you get it. Collect or
copy things, and then when you're actively doing something and need the info,
it's there waiting for you. I have found it immensely helpful
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
> Obviously control+a control+c are identical with their command key Mac
> counterparts, however in the Mac world one can not be
> selective in their selection with the shift+arrow keys while viewing a web
> page.
Well, once you've selected
Yes Benjamin,
I was not clear. Obviously control+a control+c are identical with their
command key Mac counterparts, however in the Mac world one can not be selective
in their selection with the shift+arrow keys while viewing a web page. Carolyn
correctly differentiated what I meant from what
Hi, The control option shift c method is a pain on that particular webpage. I
made it a bit less daunting by switching to group mode. That grouped some of
the smaller items for me so that I could sweep them up faster and it also made
it possible for me to get just the article without the ted
Eric,
I'll try that but I still have a problem when each item is only a line.
Man, I hope I can remember all this safari stuff, :)
So control option shift c will copy the text of the item I just heard. Control
option return will begin selecting and control option return will stop
selecting an
Ok Mike,
I just went to
http://www.vegancoach.com/how-to-cook-a-turnip.html
and tried to follow your instructions. Each line is showing up as its own
item, so when I interact with it, I still only get a line at a time. Also, I
could not move by character, only by word.
I did find that by tur
Ok Mike, but I can't always seem to interact. Before I continue whining
though, let me try out your method and see what happens.
Thanks so much!
Marlaina
On Dec 16, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
The answer to bot of these is to interact with the item. You can then read it
word by wor
Hi Marlena, I see no one has suggested control shift c yet. I'm not sure how
I got along without that keystroke on windows.
It works like this. You hear voiceover say something, you press control option
shift C, you paste where you like.
So, If all of the instructions for your recipe are in
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
> We're talking about the ability to copy something like an article or collumn
> of text without having to do select-all and chop later.
> I think Geoff is saying the method of Vo-Shift-Return to set start and stop
> selecting wasn't working w
Benjamin:
I don't think you read before responding to this post. We're talking about the
ability to copy something like an article or collumn of text without having to
do select-all and chop later. I think Geoff is saying the method of
Vo-Shift-Return to set start and stop selecting wasn't wor
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 7:45 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
> Okay, but when a page consists of hundreds of items, one must do this Items
> times N times rather than pressing control-a -> control-c in MSIE or FireFox?
> I attempted to use the technique described below to copy a long oped column
> and
Okay, but when a page consists of hundreds of items, one must do this Items
times N times rather than pressing control-a -> control-c in MSIE or FireFox?
I attempted to use the technique described below to copy a long oped column and
very quickly gave up and booted up the old Netbook.
TIA for
Ok. Mike, Your a genius. It worked like a charm. This is great for those
pages that don't let you navigate and select text by just using the arrows and
the shift key.
Thanks
Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
On Dec 16, 201
Hi,
Sorry about that. I meant safari or webkit. Meaning its a function built into
the web browser, not a voiceover feature.
hth
Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
On Dec 16, 2010, at 6:54 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
> Hmmm,
reader mode is a mac function, aside from voiceover.
On Dec 16, 2010, at 5:22 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
> Is reader mode a vo or a Mac function?
> On Dec 16, 2010, at 10:56 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
>
> If you are reading articles from blogs or Newspapers, then command-shift-R
> will put you in
The answer to bot of these is to interact with the item. You can then read it
word by word, or character by character. To select text, interact with the
item, then press control option enter at the beginning of what you want to
copy. Now move to the end of the text to copy and press control opti
Hmmm, ok what is the safari webkit?
On Dec 16, 2010, at 3:44 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
Hi,
Its a Safari/webkit function.
hth
Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
On Dec 16, 2010, at 6:22 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
> Is reader
Hi,
Its a Safari/webkit function.
hth
Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
On Dec 16, 2010, at 6:22 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
> Is reader mode a vo or a Mac function?
> On Dec 16, 2010, at 10:56 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
>
> I
Yah, that's what I've been doing, but it's a pain and very time-consuming for
sure, especially if all you are doing is clipping a recipe or something like
that.
On Dec 16, 2010, at 11:08 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
Marlaina, the easiest way to deal with all of that is to simply select all on
the
Is reader mode a vo or a Mac function?
On Dec 16, 2010, at 10:56 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
If you are reading articles from blogs or Newspapers, then command-shift-R will
put you in "Reader" mode. This should do the following:
1. find the article text.
2. Download additional pages of the text.
Marlaina, the easiest way to deal with all of that is to simply select all on
the page, plop it in a TextEdit document, and then manipulate it from there.
Not pretty, but it works just fine.
Teresa
On Dec 16, 2010, at 9:29 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
> Mike or others,
>
> One problem I have wi
If you are reading articles from blogs or Newspapers, then command-shift-R
will put you in "Reader" mode. This should do the following:
1. find the article text.
2. Download additional pages of the text.
I do find that sometimes the reader mode stumbles on multipage articles and
I end up using V
Mike or others,
One problem I have with surfing the web on the Mac is that I can't copy and
paste consistently from websites. I mean that since it moves by item and not
by line, I have a hard time copying the text of an item. I also wonder if
there is an easier way to read the text within an
Actually, once you get used to it, it works much better than the windows screen
readers. It moves by item rather than by line, I find surfing the web on the
mac to be a very enjoyable experience.
On Dec 14, 2010, at 9:24 PM, denise avant wrote:
> hello all,
> after being an internet explorer use
You can use VO-command-n to move to the next web spot or use the web rotor and
find web spots.
Teresa
On Dec 14, 2010, at 8:04 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
> Hi Deniese:
> Probably the quickest way I've found is to invoke the web roter with VO-u,
> and look for headers or links. Or, do Vo-f and loo
Hi Deniese:
Probably the quickest way I've found is to invoke the web roter with VO-u, and
look for headers or links. Or, do Vo-f and look for the first couple words in
your title. Beyond this, I'm still trying to find a better answer. A third
thing you can try is Vo-i for item chooser. Then
a
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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Maxwell Ivey Jr.
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 1:51 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: safari questions
Hello; As i understand it the results depend more o
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Subject: Re: safari questions
Hello; As i understand it the results depend more on what the creater
of the website did than it is safari's doing. some sites it will
bring me back to the same spot, but others it
Hello; As i understand it the results depend more on what the creater
of the website did than it is safari's doing. some sites it will
bring me back to the same spot, but others it returns me to the top of
the previous page. for this reason I use command enter to open the
link as a new p
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