to:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
> Sent: Monday, 30 October 2017 7:53 AM
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> Subject: Re: Preview for PDFs on the Mac under High Sierra, some questions
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> Hi Mary,
>
> I also use PDFPen Pro for pdf's. It is ac
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On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Monday, 30 October 2017 7:53 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Preview for PDFs on the Mac under High Sierra, some questions
Hi Mary,
I also use PDFPen Pro for pdf's. It is accessible, handles forms well,
Hi ET,
Basically, you're correct. Although in this case, the form fields in the pdf's
were visible to apps like PDFPen Pro, and were usable by sighted users of the
Preview app. These same form fields were not accessible though to us as VO
users. So, in this case, whether I had a properly lab
Tim,
Interesting topic. In essence, is it not true that accessibility
ultimately is up to the document creator;s efforts, or lack thereof,
therefore no PDF app can overcome the lack of accessibility?
From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the
mysteries of the
Well, in my continuing attempt to find something that works on the Mac, I just
tried the Adobe acrobat DC or something like that. It had some reasonably
positive reviews on Apple Vis, at least as far as being able to read
continuously is concerned. Unfortunately, the PDF documents I tried it on,
Hi Tim,
I don't mind paying for apps. Of course, I would like the free preview app to
do what I want, smile. And form filling is not a high priority for me at this
point, especially since form creation is often the issue, rather than just
having the actual edit field technically accessible but w
Hi Mary,
I also use PDFPen Pro for pdf's. It is accessible, handles forms well, and
seems to read things in a more cohesive manner. It's not a free pdf app
though. Regarding reporting of the bug, I would suggest Apple Accessibility
for now since it primarily is an accessibility of Preview co
Hi Tim, one other thing. You mentioned reporting a bug with this PDF reading.
Is that just to Apple accessibility? Or is there another place to report that
might give better results? I would be happy to report a bug if possible. I
really really do not want to have to buy another Windows machine.
Thanks, Tim. This is depressing. VO down arrow through a multipage document is
simply unacceptable. Talk about a way to get carpal tunnel. Smile. In your
experience, is there an application that will let me access PDF files that are
not images in a way that is at all comparable to what I have ha
Hi Mary,
Actually, if you interact with Page 1, then VO-down through the pdf, it will
glide straight past page changes without the need to interact with each
separate page. The problem with the VO-a does seem to be present though where
it only reads the current element, not the entire document
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