Thanks, Tim. This is depressing. VO down arrow through a multipage document is simply unacceptable. Talk about a way to get carpal tunnel. Smile. In your experience, is there an application that will let me access PDF files that are not images in a way that is at all comparable to what I have had on windows for several years? I have a really old Windows machine which needs to go away. I keep it for a few reasons, one of which is that it still reads PDF files well. Unfortunately, I can't access a lot of websites I need to with his old machine, and even finding and sending PDF attachments to myself on the windows machine doesn't work, because I don't see the attachments for whatever reason. I was really hoping that with this new High Sierra, one of my reasons for keeping our old machine would go away. If I can't get to grips with this in efficient way on the Mac, I'm going to just have to buy a new Windows machine, learn windows 10 and learn a new screen reader, all of which are things I don't want to do. I bought my first Mac went snow leopard came out, and it was stable and worked well with a few exceptions of course, but by this time, I was really thinking I should have been able to totally dumb windows. Not so fast. Mary
Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 29, 2017, at 7:58 AM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote: > > Hi Mary, > > Actually, if you interact with Page 1, then VO-down through the pdf, it will > glide straight past page changes without the need to interact with each > separate page. The problem with the VO-a does seem to be present though > where it only reads the current element, not the entire document. This is an > issue for sure and I will be submitting a bug report to have it dealt with. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Oct 28, 2017, at 16:04, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I finally upgraded my Mac to high Sierra. I found a simple PDF in my email > folder. I finally figured out how to open the attachment. It opened in > preview and there is a document group containing three pages. It would appear > that you have to enter act with each page if you want to read it. That is > unnecessary in my opinion. If you do it a read all from the top of page 1, I > want to read straight through, or have the option to stop and continue, such > as if there is a table, which in this case there isn't. Anyway, is there > anyway to actually get this thing to read? Even on a page with some text, I'm > told that there are such and so many items, and I can't get a continuous read > to go all the way through. In other words, this is as screwed up as it ever > was. What am I missing? Where are the improvements? I'm thinking about trying > skim. But I would like to know a little bit more about that app before I pay > for it and find it doesn't meet my needs either. I'm really not that > demanding. I just want to be able to do what you have been able to do on > windows for probably a decade now with PDF files in a decent screen reader. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
