Hi Tim, I don't mind paying for apps. Of course, I would like the free preview app to do what I want, smile. And form filling is not a high priority for me at this point, especially since form creation is often the issue, rather than just having the actual edit field technically accessible but without a proper label. Have you ever used the skim app? Again, it's not free. I don't mind paying. But before I do so, I would sort of like to know if it's actually going to do what I want. .
Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 29, 2017, at 11:52 AM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote: > > Hi Mary, > > I also use PDFPen Pro for pdf's. It is accessible, handles forms well, and > seems to read things in a more cohesive manner. It's not a free pdf app > though. Regarding reporting of the bug, I would suggest Apple Accessibility > for now since it primarily is an accessibility of Preview concern, not > necessarily a Preview app bug. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Oct 29, 2017, at 11:04, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Tim, one other thing. You mentioned reporting a bug with this PDF reading. > Is that just to Apple accessibility? Or is there another place to report that > might give better results? I would be happy to report a bug if possible. I > really really do not want to have to buy another Windows machine. But if I > can't get this in a couple of other things sorted, I will have to do that. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 29, 2017, at 7:58 AM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Mary, >> >> Actually, if you interact with Page 1, then VO-down through the pdf, it will >> glide straight past page changes without the need to interact with each >> separate page. The problem with the VO-a does seem to be present though >> where it only reads the current element, not the entire document. This is >> an issue for sure and I will be submitting a bug report to have it dealt >> with. >> >> Later... >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> On Oct 28, 2017, at 16:04, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I finally upgraded my Mac to high Sierra. I found a simple PDF in my email >> folder. I finally figured out how to open the attachment. It opened in >> preview and there is a document group containing three pages. It would >> appear that you have to enter act with each page if you want to read it. >> That is unnecessary in my opinion. If you do it a read all from the top of >> page 1, I want to read straight through, or have the option to stop and >> continue, such as if there is a table, which in this case there isn't. >> Anyway, is there anyway to actually get this thing to read? Even on a page >> with some text, I'm told that there are such and so many items, and I can't >> get a continuous read to go all the way through. In other words, this is as >> screwed up as it ever was. What am I missing? Where are the improvements? >> I'm thinking about trying skim. But I would like to know a little bit more >> about that app before I pay for it and find it doesn't meet my needs either. >> I'm really not that demanding. 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