Re: Partitioning MBA Disk Not Going Well

2014-08-18 Thread Alex Hall
A appreciate the help. Between one thing and another, I never had time to try this, knowing what could go wrong and how long it would take to recover from any mistake. Now I find myself low on disk space, so I don't think I can install Yosemite on this machine. Can anyone tell me how, or even if

Re: Partitioning MBA Disk Not Going Well

2014-07-27 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Remember that any unallocated space after the partition is available for use. Even if you couldn't shrink from 51G to 45G with the available 10G, which even by my lamentable arithmetical powers would seem to be possible with 4G left over, then you should still have sufficient space on the whole

Re: Partitioning MBA Disk Not Going Well

2014-07-27 Thread Barry Hadder
According to your du list output, you had a 51.5 gig main partition and you said that finder reports 10 gigs free. You can't shrink the 51gb partition down to 45gb with only 10gb left. On Jul 27, 2014, at 5:23 PM, Alex Hall wrote: According to Finder, I have a 60GB hard drive total, and

Re: Partitioning MBA Disk Not Going Well

2014-07-27 Thread Alex Hall
According to Finder, I have a 60GB hard drive total, and about 20GB of total free space to work with. I'm making the Yosemite partition 15GB, or trying to, which should be enough room. On Jul 27, 2014, at 6:02 PM, Barry Hadder wrote: > I believe you are waisting time. > If you only have 10 gigs

Re: Partitioning MBA Disk Not Going Well

2014-07-27 Thread Barry Hadder
I believe you are waisting time. If you only have 10 gigs free, than you can't shrink it down any more. You need 8 gigs for installation and another 15 percent of that for updates. That gives you an absolute minimum of 9.2 gigs. As I said before, if disk utility won't let you shrink something,

Re: Partitioning MBA Disk Not Going Well

2014-07-27 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
The command you now need is: sudo diskutil resizeVolume disk0s2 45G JHFS+ Testing 0 The only time I consider Disk Utility to be reliable with VoiceOver is when partitioning from scratch; then it's usually more convenient to use DU instead of the CLI. But ultimately you can do more with the disk

Re: Partitioning MBA Disk Not Going Well

2014-07-26 Thread Michael Marshall
hey, even if you think something is something is highlighted you cannot change the partition scheme that current button is always grade out. if you ever figure out a way to do it step by step and send instructions I would be most grateful to you. thanks Michael. On 27 Jul 2014, at 2:47 pm, Chery

Re: Partitioning MBA Disk Not Going Well

2014-07-26 Thread Cheryl Homiak
First of all, make sure you are highlighting a disk and not a partition when you are going to partition. Secondly, if you are partitioning and not resizing, you need to choose a partition scheme and don't leave it on "current". Thirdly, there's a way you have to interact with the scroll area and

Re: Partitioning MBA Disk Not Going Well

2014-07-26 Thread Michael Marshall
If you use the re-size control all that voice-over will say is content is empty and you can't do anything. On 27 Jul 2014, at 7:54 am, Alex Hall wrote: > Fair enough, I guess I can see that. The question then becomes: how do you > use the resize control? I interact with it, but can't do anythin

Re: Partitioning MBA Disk Not Going Well

2014-07-26 Thread Michael Marshall
hey, the main problem with DU is that even when you highlight the correct drive that you want to work on all of the partition buttons are grade out. In recovery mode or even another bootable install it just does not work for me at the moment. I have tried everything under the sun and its only th

Re: Partitioning MBA Disk Not Going Well

2014-07-26 Thread Michael Marshall
hey, I would love it if you could put the steps down for resizing or anything to do with partitioning in voice-over. I have done some of it with external drives but internal is no go. thanks Michael On 27 Jul 2014, at 6:23 am, Cheryl Homiak wrote: > I have to comment here that partitioning with

Re: Partitioning MBA Disk Not Going Well

2014-07-26 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I'm not absolutely sure you can. My first comment wasn't about resizing in particular but was in response to the statement about partitioning with voiceover being useless (not exact quote). I do know that one can partition with disk utility doing vo because I've done that many times. My second c

Re: Partitioning MBA Disk Not Going Well

2014-07-26 Thread Alex Hall
Fair enough, I guess I can see that. The question then becomes: how do you use the resize control? I interact with it, but can't do anything past that. Is there a special command to use this? On Jul 26, 2014, at 5:33 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote: > What I think you may not be understanding is that b

Re: Partitioning MBA Disk Not Going Well

2014-07-26 Thread Cheryl Homiak
What I think you may not be understanding is that by writing in an amount instead of just working the resizer you usually aren't going to get the exact fraction needed for resizing so you are going to get an error and/or a different size than you thought you requested. This isn't a matter of DU

Re: Partitioning MBA Disk Not Going Well

2014-07-26 Thread Alex Hall
Apologies, but can you re-send that command? Thanks. Yes, generally, partitioning is easy. I've done this sort of thing several times in the past with no trouble, on internal and external drives. I've never seen an attempt go sideways like this one has, but this is the first time I've had probl

Re: Partitioning MBA Disk Not Going Well

2014-07-26 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
I tell you something, partitioning is something that is totally accessible from the word go under OS X. Under Windows you either need sighted assistance or one of the talking environments out there, unless you use a third party partitioning program under Windows or you want to partition on driv

Re: Partitioning MBA Disk Not Going Well

2014-07-26 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
I'm not sure why DU is forcing such a small value. You ought to be able to specify any size up to a maximum for each partition such that they all occupy all of the space of the entire disk. This is really where DU just falls down, as far as VO support is concerned. You're correct that about 5

Re: Partitioning MBA Disk Not Going Well

2014-07-26 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I have to comment here that partitioning with voiceover is most certainly NOT useless. I do it all the time with external drives and have done it with my internal drive on occasion. I don't have time right now to write more, but it involves how you interact and tab; it might be a bit challenging

Re: Partitioning MBA Disk Not Going Well

2014-07-26 Thread Alex Hall
Before I do this, I have a question: where'd my extra space go? I successfully used Disk Utility to resize my Macintosh HD down earlier, but that gave me no extra free space. Well, the size Disk Utility forces me to use went from 8.34GB to 8.79GB, but that's after I resized the main partition do

Re: Partitioning MBA Disk Not Going Well

2014-07-26 Thread Michael Marshall
Partitioning with voice-over is useless. i think a lot more could be done to make the panels more accessible. take the resize control On 26 Jul 2014, at 10:28 pm, Alex Hall wrote: > I made sure to select the proper partition from the scroll area, and the size > did show up. The thing it, any va

Re: Partitioning MBA Disk Not Going Well

2014-07-26 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
OK, so we now know that you do, in fact, only have about 8GB of unpartitioned space. Let's resize this to 70% of the disk, leaving 30% for your testing--that would be about 20GB. Adjust as required. You'd type this, and enter your password (hope you've got that backup): sudo diskutil resizeVo

Re: Partitioning MBA Disk Not Going Well

2014-07-26 Thread Alex Hall
I haven't made the new partition yet, so here's all I have: AccessIT-LLC-Macbook-Air:~ alexhall$ diskutil list /dev/disk0 #: TYPE NAMESIZE IDENTIFIER 0: GUID_partition_scheme*60.7 GBdisk0 1:

Re: Partitioning MBA Disk Not Going Well

2014-07-26 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Can you send us the output of "diskutil list" so we can see where you are? I do advise you to take that backup now, just in case. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it

Re: Partitioning MBA Disk Not Going Well

2014-07-26 Thread Alex Hall
The latest: I resized the Macintosh HD partition, as I said before. That went fine, yet the partition I'm trying to create is *still* stuck at 8.79GB. I type in the new size (14GB), and it immediately gets replaced by 8.79, just like before. This makes no sense at all. Would the command line too

Re: Partitioning MBA Disk Not Going Well

2014-07-26 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Well, when you "Add" a new partition, you are shrinking the partition whose free space you are using transparently; this is all handled by the disk management framework in OS X. To be honest, Disk Utility isn't the nicest tool to use for these sorts of jobs, so if you're up to it, I'd use the d

Re: Partitioning MBA Disk Not Going Well

2014-07-26 Thread Alex Hall
Okay, thanks, I think I see what happened. I was trying to do all this after clicking "add"; I'm instead supposed to shrink my current partition before configuring the new one. It's shrinking now, so this should work better next time I add the new one and try to set it up. Hopefully I can figure

Re: Partitioning MBA Disk Not Going Well

2014-07-26 Thread Barry Hadder
You should be able to resize macintosh hd. All I can suggest is to make sure you deleted the new partition and double check that you have macintosh hd selected with vo-space. You have to delete the new one first because you can only move the end point of a partition using disk utility. You can

Re: Partitioning MBA Disk Not Going Well

2014-07-26 Thread Alex Hall
Good idea, thanks. I tried resizing the main partition (Macintosh HD), but the size is always dimmed, as though I can't edit it at all. It's the startup disk so of course I can't erase it, but I don't seem able to resize it to give the new partition more space. On Jul 26, 2014, at 11:10 AM, Barr

Re: Partitioning MBA Disk Not Going Well

2014-07-26 Thread Barry Hadder
If you can't resize it then it is as large as it can be. Removing your vm freed of 19 gigs on your main partition. That does not meen that you have 19 gigs free on the drive. You probably need to delete the new partition and then shrink the main partition. On Jul 26, 2014, at 7:28 AM, Alex H

Re: Partitioning MBA Disk Not Going Well

2014-07-26 Thread Alex Hall
I made sure to select the proper partition from the scroll area, and the size did show up. The thing it, any value I enter in the size text field is replaced by 8.34 no matter what. VO indicates that, in the scroll area, there is a "resize control", but I can't figure out how that is supposed to

Re: Partitioning MBA Disk Not Going Well

2014-07-25 Thread Barry Hadder
Sounds like you don't have the partition in question selected. Interact with the scroll area containing the partitions and vo-space on the one you want. Then all the things you want should be enabled. Also note that unless it has been fixed, the installation does something strange to an existing

Partitioning MBA Disk Not Going Well

2014-07-25 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all, I'm trying to test Yosemite, and I've been running it off an old thumb drive. Needless to say, I've hit serious lag issues that practically prevent me from using the system. I'd like to partition my (admittedly small) internal disk instead, so I've moved my Windows VM off for now, leavin