Thanks! Now I have to think about what would be optimal.
Best wishes,
Jonathan
> On Aug 31, 2016, at 12:42 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:
>
> Jonathan,
>
> You might find this link helpful in regards to keybindings.
> https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Cocoa/Con
Jonathan,
You might find this link helpful in regards to keybindings.
https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/EventOverview/TextDefaultsBindings/TextDefaultsBindings.html
On Aug 30, 2016, at 10:18, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
Note on the rest of this message, in several p
Note on the rest of this message, in several places below Alex speaks "the
fifth" where I typed a Vee character.
I was thinking about this, and realized that the standard editor
functionality of MacOS will simulate Emacs keystrokes.
What this means is that control-V moves down a page, and meta-V
Hi Anne,
That switch makes sense. On the occasions when I did use those commands, I
remember that the results seemed unpredictable, and that sometimes nothing
would happen at all. This probably explains that.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Aug 26, 2016, at 11:34 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
>
> Hello Donna
Hello Donna,
The commands you’re thinking about are Go to first or last visible item and Go
to First or Last Item. These were switched round in El Capitan. To me, this
makes sense for a VO user who normally doesn’t care what’s visible or not. So
now, VO-Home goes to first item and not first vis
Hello Alex,
Wrap to Page does indeed show what the document would look like if printed, and
allows VO users to find the page breaks.
Cheers,
Anne
> On 26 Aug 2016, at 13:01, Alex Hall wrote:
>
> Thanks. Interacting was one step I was missing, as I never interact with text
> unless I need
There are a whole lot of keys? There are worse combinations.
VO-FN-Left Arrow, VO-Shift-FN-Left Arrow
VO-Cmd-FN-Right Arrow.
From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
On 8/26/2016 5:46 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
Hi Anne,
I realized after I wrote that th
Hi Anne,
I realized after I wrote that the commands I was thinking of were the Home and
End commands. I don't recall the exact keystrokes, but they require pressing a
whole lot of keys. :)
Cheers,
Donna
> On Aug 26, 2016, at 1:14 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
>
> Hello Donna,
>
> No, the comman
Thanks. Interacting was one step I was missing, as I never interact with text
unless I need vo-a to track my position. I also never knew what wrap to
page/window in Text Edit do. Are they visual changes only, or is there
something they do that is helpful to VO users aside from allowing page-leve
Hello Donna,
No, the command has always been the same.
Cheers,
Anne
> On 25 Aug 2016, at 20:22, Donna Goodin wrote:
>
> Wow, Anne, thank you! Did there used to be a different command? I remember
> it as being something like VO+FN+Shift+ God knows what else. I just
> remember trying to
Wow, Anne, thank you! Did there used to be a different command? I remember it
as being something like VO+FN+Shift+ God knows what else. I just remember
trying to get my fingers to do it, and giving up. :)
Cheers,
Donna
> On Aug 25, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:
>
> Hello Donna,
Hello Donna,
The Page Down command is VO-Page Down, on a laptop, this is VO-FN-Down Arrow.
Not difficult at all.
Cheers,
Anne
> On 25 Aug 2016, at 15:44, Donna Goodin wrote:
>
> Can someone refresh my memory about the VO page-Down command? All I remember
> is that it is some impossible c
Can someone refresh my memory about the VO page-Down command? All I remember
is that it is some impossible command that requires 27 fingers.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Aug 25, 2016, at 8:22 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
>
> Hello Alex,
>
> In TextEdit, you need to adjust the window to the page for VO-Page
Hello Alex,
In TextEdit, you need to adjust the window to the page for VO-Page Down to
work. The command to change this is Cmd-Shift-w.
In Pages and in TextEdit, you have to be interacting with the text area for the
Page Down command to work.
The Page Down key only has a visual effect, so it’s
Hi all,
I'm not normally in need of a way to move by page, but I find myself suddenly
trying to figure it out now. VO's help reports that the command is vo-pageDown,
but that doesn't seem to do anything. I'm also wondering if there's a macOS
way, much like vo-right moves by word but you should u
Having spent a little more time using the version control dialog/window, I have
found that you can review previous versions either by setting the slider
control to a version and then using the window chooser to bring up that version
window, or, by restoring a copy of the currently selected versi
I did the same thing just a few minutes ago, creating four versions of a
document with a single line of text saying, “this is line x” where x is the
version #, and doing a manual save after each change to x.
I have found the following very accessible means of browsing and restoring
previous ver
I have just had a play with the revert feature.
Basically I created four different versions of short document all with the same
text except to say they said first version, second version etc.
I think the problem is that the revert feature console has some un labelled
button next to the file versi
Hi there
You have my condolences on that because this is happened to me too. In my case,
my latest disaster happened in pages. Do you have a time machine backup? At
least in Mavericks, the ability to get previous versionwas somewhat limited.
Sometimes you can get the last one opened by going int
Is the restore prior versions functionality accessible with VO? Does anyone
know how auto save and versioning works on the Mac and how we can prevent
disasters like the one I experienced today?
Today something got screwed up and I lost some work in a text edit document.
I tried browsing prio
Hi. I get on ok with pages. I don't have numbers yet.
Hopefully someone else will chime in.
Maria Chapman
bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
"The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong." -
Mahatma Gandhi
On 07/08/2012, at 11:17 AM, agent086b wrote:
> Hi,
> I am about to o
In terms of accessibility? no, just as hard work as ever. Still too many
things to interact and Numbers still does not read out ranges correctly etc.
The amount of interacting you have to do drives me nuts. I wonder if Google
search would be as popular if you had to do 6 mouse clicks to get th
Hi,
I am about to order my iMac in the next week or two.
I have been away the last month so have not kept up with the release of
Mountain Lion. Has there been any changes to Pages and the spreadsheet
program who's name I have forgotten. I sea options to order them at the
same time for about 20
Hi Mark
This works great IMO. Once you have the setting you want, you drag your finger
around the screen. So you don't swipe but just drag. If your setting is on word
then VO will only read out the word your finger is on. IF it is on Paragraph
then of course the whole paragraph will be read out
Hello Ioana,
I see. So, one cannot simply type away on the keyboard of the Macbook and then
use a single-finger swipe to navigate via sentence.
Now I understand how it works. Thank you ever so much.
Mark
On Jan 30, 2012, at 6:03 PM, Red.Falcon wrote:
> Hi Ioana!
> Well that's the way to d
Hi Ioana!
Well that's the way to do it! Just the ticket!
Thanks!
Colin
On 31 Jan 2012, at 01:59, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
> HI,
>
> It works for me in lion.
> Here are the steps.
>
> 1. Open a text
> 2. touch trackpad
> 3. press command and you should hear the toggle from line sentence paragrap
HI,
It works for me in lion.
Here are the steps.
1. Open a text
2. touch trackpad
3. press command and you should hear the toggle from line sentence paragraph et.
4. Do not flick but rather move your finger around the trackpad. If words is
selected you will only hear the word your finger is on
: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Emrah
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 7:50 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Question About Using The TrackPad when Navigating Text in
Text Edit, Pages, etc
Just tried and it works here.
Basically
when Navigating Text in
Text Edit, Pages, etc
Hi Mark!
Well I can also say that after changing the setting nothing happens!
Sorry I thought you were having problems changing the settings!
And yes Ricardo if you read this :] I did interact!
So I suppose yet another message to Accessibility!
All the
Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 11:55 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Question About Using The TrackPad when Navigating Text in
Text Edit, Pages, etc
Hi Mark,
Excuse me stating the obvious but, thats often what gets overlooked. lol.
Are you interacting
Hello,
This has nothing to do with trackpad gestures per say.
If you want to read all with VO without your keyboard, just enable the trackpad
commanders and do a two fingers flick down on the text area.
Cheers,
--
Emrah
“In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.”
Please clarify for me what you did as it's never worked for me. This means you
just use the I phone gestures on the Mac and you do not need the key board to
get voice over to read all with vo A.
I am using Lion and turned anything to do with launch pad off.
Kawal.
On 30 Jan 2012, at 03:49 PM,
Just tried and it works here.
Basically, once you change the setting, it affects what is read to you when you
move your finger on the trackpad.
The line mode will read a line at a time, the word mode will read a word at a
time and so forth.
I cannot find any use to this feature yet...
Emrah
--
Hi Mark!
Well I can also say that after changing the setting nothing happens!
Sorry I thought you were having problems changing the settings!
And yes Ricardo if you read this :] I did interact!
So I suppose yet another message to Accessibility!
All the best!
Colin
On 30 Jan 2012, at 07:55, Ricardo
Hi Mark,
Excuse me stating the obvious but, thats often what gets overlooked. lol. Are
you interacting with the text? This will often tweek how navigation works I've
noticed in text edit. I don't have pages but, figure the same would apply.
Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:
Thank you for the confirmation, Kawal.
Mark
On Jan 28, 2012, at 3:58 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> This has never worked for me Mark even in Snow lepard. Do not know if its a
> bug or if I've been doing something wrong.
>
> Kawal.
>
> On 28 Jan 2012, at 11:38 PM, "M. Taylor" wrote:
>
>> Hell
Hello Colin and thank you for the reply.
As I stated in my original message, I can get the setting changed to sentence
but, afterwards, I cannot seem to navigate by sentence. So, once the setting
is set to Sentence, what gesture do you employ to navigate by sentences?
Mark
On Jan 28, 2012, at
Hi there!
Well I can help here!
It is not clear but I found out by accident!
What you have to do is keep your finger on the track pad and tap the key up and
down to change the setting!
But the way most people think the instruction means is to hold the key down and
tap the track pad and then think
This has never worked for me Mark even in Snow lepard. Do not know if its a
bug or if I've been doing something wrong.
Kawal.
On 28 Jan 2012, at 11:38 PM, "M. Taylor" wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I am currently running the latest version of OSX Lion on my MacBook Pro.
>
> The following is
Hello Everyone,
I am currently running the latest version of OSX Lion on my MacBook Pro.
The following is from Braille page 217 of the Mac OSX Snow Leopard VoiceOver
User Guide describing methods for reading text:
Text:
"Change how VoiceOver reads text [by word, line, sentence, or paragraph)
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