Re: voice quirks was Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.

2012-02-20 Thread Massimo Vettoretti
In data Domenica 19 Febbraio 2012 17.42.59, Annie Skov Nielsen ha scritto: I have also problems with some danish letters the 3 last æ ø and å. I have also reported these bugs to apple, but they have not solved the problems yet. There are problems with the italian voices too. The premium voices

Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.

2012-02-19 Thread Ricardo Walker
betatesters don't take > their job seriously enough. > > > David Tanner - Host > MainMenu > Technology from a blindness perspective! > www.mainmenu.acbradio.org > www.twitter.com/mainmenu > > - Original Message ----- From: "Ricardo Walker&q

Re: voice quirks was Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.

2012-02-19 Thread Mike Arrigo
I also reported the nuance pitch issue a while back. Another issue is that when the mouse pointer is in the menus, pressing VO F5 does not report the item under the mouse. On Feb 19, 2012, at 10:18 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Hi, > My nuance voices also go up and down in pitch. Although it's a

Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.

2012-02-19 Thread David Tanner
age - From: "Ricardo Walker" To: Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 6:58 AM Subject: Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed. lol, Who writes or, calls a company telling them they do not have to fix a problem. That would be a bit, well, over the top, no? Ricardo

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2012-02-19 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi. I have also problems with some danish letters the 3 last æ ø and å. I have also reported these bugs to apple, but they have not solved the problems yet. Best regards Annie. Den Feb 19, 2012 kl. 5:18 PM skrev Krister Ekstrom: > Hi, > My nuance voices also go up and down in pitch. Although

voice quirks was Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.

2012-02-19 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi, My nuance voices also go up and down in pitch. Although it's a bit annoying at times, i can live with it, however i want to know, out of curiosity, do your nuance danish voice have trouble pronouncing certain letter as you type them? My Swedish voices have problems pronouncing some letters s

Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.

2012-02-19 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi Christer. Yes they work, I have not thought that the problem could be in the accapella voices. I will try to figure out why. My problem with the voices from nuance is that they are going up and down in pitch all the time, therefore I continued to use Mette and Heather. That was a mistake i

Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.

2012-02-19 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Interesting that Acapela voices don't work propperly. How about the nuance voices do they work as promised? /Krister 19 feb 2012 kl. 14:09 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen: > Hi Christer. > > Ok you are wright. > > But I will have to inform you about the possibility to change the VoiceOver > speaking

Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.

2012-02-19 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi Christer. Ok you are wright. But I will have to inform you about the possibility to change the VoiceOver speaking, on my mac the only thing that I can move to another sound device are the sound effects. But I have just figured out what has been wrong, I am using accapellas Heather and Mette

Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.

2012-02-19 Thread Ricardo Walker
To: > Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 9:46 AM > Subject: Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed. > > > I also have no problems navigating tables. The one place where this can be a > problem is in word processor documents, but these can easily be rea

Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.

2012-02-18 Thread John Panarese
I still don't understand what you are trying to explain. I have a 32 cell display, so, perhaps, I am not seeing what you are seeing. The fact still remains that no one knows what Apple will or will not do by the time Mountain Lion is officially released. It's not worth guessing, though

Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.

2012-02-18 Thread Massimo Vettoretti
In data Sabato 18 Febbraio 2012 2.47.35, John Panarese ha scritto: I have no idea what this means. OS 10.8 is not out yet, and what are you basing your speculation on that there will be no improvements to VoiceOver. I am not speculating. I have that beta installed on my MBPro and, while I

Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.

2012-02-18 Thread David Tanner
n lion and what we would love to be changed. I also have no problems navigating tables. The one place where this can be a problem is in word processor documents, but these can easily be read by converting them to plain text. On Feb 17, 2012, at 6:44 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Tables? I find na

Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.

2012-02-18 Thread Massimo Vettoretti
Inviato da iPhone Il giorno 18/feb/2012, alle ore 16:46, Arrigo ha scritto: > I also have no problems navigating tables. The one place where this can be a > problem is in word processor documents, but these can easily be read by > converting them to plain text. > Mike mike, the point is

Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.

2012-02-18 Thread Mike Arrigo
I also have no problems navigating tables. The one place where this can be a problem is in word processor documents, but these can easily be read by converting them to plain text. On Feb 17, 2012, at 6:44 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Tables? > > I find navigating tables to be perfectly fine. >

Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.

2012-02-18 Thread Jürgen Fleger
Oh yes, not just once. ;-) But it might be highly appreciated to send more e-mails to them so that they notice that it's really urgent. This is a basic functionality that really should work. So please feel free to write them an e-mail as well. Greets Jürgen Am 18.02.2012 um 12:25 schrieb Louie

Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.

2012-02-18 Thread Ricardo Walker
I agree. Not necessarily caps lock but, just the ability to change the voiceover modifier keys, to a modifier key of your choosing. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Feb 18, 2012, at 8:05 AM, Garth Humphreys wrote: > One thing I would

Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.

2012-02-18 Thread Anne Robertson
I've contacted Apple about the problems with tables in text documents, and I've used the reporting facility in Pages to do the same. I'm sure they're well aware of the problem, but it will have to be resolved in the word-processing applications themselves. Cheers, Anne On 18 Feb 2012, at 12:

Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.

2012-02-18 Thread Garth Humphreys
One thing I would like to see in Mountain Lion would be the ability to use the Caps Lock key as the vo modifier keys. This is not just because it is used in some Windows screen readers. I believe it makes a lot of sense to repurpose this particular keyboard location. The Caps Lock functionality

Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.

2012-02-18 Thread Louie P. (Pete) Nalda
Has anyone ever emailed accessibil...@apple.com to ask for accessible tables? I don't do any really heavy word processing, and mostly use zoom, but I could see where this is a problem for those who can't see at all, or for me when my eyes get tired. On Feb 18, 2012, at 12:49 AM, Jürgen Fleger

Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.

2012-02-18 Thread Krister Ekstrom
I think that the Braille issue is a typical European one. Here, we want to be able to operate the braille independent from speech, so we could make the braille for example track where the speech isn't at the moment if you catch my drift. I too want to see a more independent braille operation tha

Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.

2012-02-18 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hmm, i haven't had this problem, in fact i hear alerts and VO messages at the same time many times. The only time i have an issue with this is when i use the Realspeak voices that seem to have some kind of conflict with the Alex voice or the other apple and possibly even Infovox voices. Are you

Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.

2012-02-18 Thread Krister Ekstrom
17 feb 2012 kl. 23:39 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen: > I would also like to see a function, so that I can choose where I would like > my VoiceOver voice to play, in my external soundcard, a USB headset or the > built in speakers. It is really annoying to hear my mac speeking in my living > room spe

Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.

2012-02-18 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Well, the thing that disappointed me when Lion came out was the frequent pitch changes with the Nuance voices when using VO. I hope that, if the Nuance voices will still be in Mountain Lion, that that glitch will finally be resolved since I hardly doubt that they'll fix that issue in Lion. It's

Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.

2012-02-17 Thread Jürgen Fleger
Tables in text documents are fully inaccessible, unfortunately. All the best Jürgen Am 18.02.2012 um 01:44 schrieb Ricardo Walker: > Tables? > > I find navigating tables to be perfectly fine. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info >

Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.

2012-02-17 Thread Jürgen Fleger
Am 17.02.2012 um 23:39 schrieb Annie Skov Nielsen: > One thing that would be very wellcome here is if tables could be more > accessible. That is a major problem, in a way not for me, because I hate > tables, but I know that here in Denmark it is one of the major reasons not to > recommend mac.

Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.

2012-02-17 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, no offense but, this means very little. The OS isn't coming out until the summer. A lot can be done in 5 or 6 months. The developer preview was only released yesterday after all. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Feb 17, 2012, a

Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.

2012-02-17 Thread John Panarese
I have no idea what this means. OS 10.8 is not out yet, and what are you basing your speculation on that there will be no improvements to VoiceOver. Also, for me, Braille support works just fine, and the "busy" signals that occasionally appear in Safari are manageable and tolerable. So, pl

Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.

2012-02-17 Thread Massimo Vettoretti
Il giorno 18/feb/2012, alle ore 01:35, Yuma Decaux ha scritto: > Hi, > > I think this is more the case of what people hope to see in the new release, > not what they want to change in a product they haven't tried yet. It seems > pretty obvious doesn't it? Hello Yuma. Unfortunately, since

Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.

2012-02-17 Thread John Panarese
This kind of thing always creates speculation and "wish lists". I think there is always a bunch of features or changes any individual user would like to see in an upcoming OS update. However, when the day is done, as usual, it will be what Apple decides it to be, and there will be another

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2012-02-17 Thread Charlie Doremus
You are correct. I just wish that same patients could be shown. The media saw mountain lion before developers and you know what can happen then. Have a great day. Aloha, Charlie Our new book "YOU MIGHT BE A MORON" is on sale at www.giantdolphin.com click the off the bookshelf link On Fe

Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.

2012-02-17 Thread Ricardo Walker
Tables? I find navigating tables to be perfectly fine. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Feb 17, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > Hi. > > One thing that would be very wellcome here is if tables could be more > accessible.

Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.

2012-02-17 Thread Yuma Decaux
Hi, I think this is more the case of what people hope to see in the new release, not what they want to change in a product they haven't tried yet. It seems pretty obvious doesn't it? Best regards, Yuma On 18/02/2012, at 12:50 PM, Charlie Doremus wrote: > How can you people change somethi

Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.

2012-02-17 Thread Charlie Doremus
How can you people change something you have never seen? Why is it not possible for you to wait for mountain loin to be released? Aloha, Charlie Our new book "YOU MIGHT BE A MORON" is on sale at www.giantdolphin.com click the off the bookshelf link On Feb 17, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Yuma Deca

Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.

2012-02-17 Thread Yuma Decaux
I think what needs to be improved with voice over is true multithreading. That way Alerts from anything such as growl notifications or scripts don't cut off voice over. Right now the system voice and voice over voice are in conflict and there is no real way for the system to prioritize which c

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2012-02-17 Thread Matt Dierckens
Hi, the second thing that you suggested is already available. In VO utility, you can select which sound device voiceover uses. Go to VO utility, in the categories table find sound or just hit command 6. Then there will be a a couple of checkboxes, then find output device, and choose your device

Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.

2012-02-17 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi. One thing that would be very wellcome here is if tables could be more accessible. That is a major problem, in a way not for me, because I hate tables, but I know that here in Denmark it is one of the major reasons not to recommend mac. I would also like to see a function, so that I can choo