True.

But there is no solution at this point. lol.  So in essence, the person would 
be calling and saying, you don't need to bother with something that doesn't 
even exist.  That would take incredible forethought IMO.  But, I guess their 
can be such a creature among us. :)

Ricardo Walker
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Twitter:@apple2thecore
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On Feb 19, 2012, at 3:52 PM, David Tanner wrote:

> Well, believe it or not I have seen people tell a company that their 
> suggested solution for solving an accessibility problem with their software 
> really wasn't necessary because people could get along without any changes. 
> This gets done because the individual saying that usually doesn't have to use 
> the part of the software that is causing the problem, so they don't really 
> think it is that big of a deal even though it may mean that another person 
> really couldn't use the software effectively for what they needed to do with 
> that software.
> 
> This kind of thing happens a lot more often than you would want to believe 
> that it does, and usually has to do with the individual really not knowing 
> the software as well as they should.  I know betatesters for certain 
> companies who make assistive technology software who report that they see no 
> problems with a particular beta when there are other betatesters finding a 
> lot of problems.  This again happens because some betatesters don't take 
> their job seriously enough.
> 
> 
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricardo Walker" <rwalker...@gmail.com>
> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 6:58 AM
> Subject: Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.
> 
> 
> lol,
> 
> Who writes or, calls a company telling them they do not have to fix a 
> problem.  That would be a bit, well, over the top, no?
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Feb 18, 2012, at 2:04 PM, David Tanner wrote:
> 
>> That is not acceptable.  Converting to text files may destroy the formating 
>> and make getting the correct information from a table difficult or 
>> impossible.  This is a serious problem, and has been a known problem often 
>> and repeatedly reported to Apple.  I sincerely hope you are not someone 
>> telling Apple that they don't need to fix the problem.  If so, please let 
>> them know that it needs fixing if Apple is to be seriously considered by 
>> folks it is absolutely necessary that a person be able to read and edit 
>> tables, and do advanced editing or it is not going to work for a lot of 
>> people.  Simple text editing is not good enough.
>> 
>> 
>> David Tanner - Host
>> MainMenu
>> Technology from a blindness perspective!
>> www.mainmenu.acbradio.org
>> www.twitter.com/mainmenu
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>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Arrigo" <n0...@charter.net>
>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 9:46 AM
>> Subject: Re: Mountain lion and what we would love to be changed.
>> 
>> 
>> I also have no problems navigating tables. The one place where this can be a 
>> problem is in word processor documents, but these can easily be read by 
>> converting them to plain text.
>> On Feb 17, 2012, at 6:44 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Tables?
>>> 
>>> I find navigating tables to be perfectly fine.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>> 
>>> On Feb 17, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi.
>>>> 
>>>> One thing that would be very wellcome here is if tables could be more 
>>>> accessible. That is a major problem, in a way not for me, because I hate 
>>>> tables, but I know that here in Denmark it is one of the major reasons not 
>>>> to recommend mac.
>>>> I would also like to see a function, so that I can choose where I would 
>>>> like my VoiceOver voice to play, in my external soundcard, a USB headset 
>>>> or the built in speakers. It is really annoying to hear my mac speeking in 
>>>> my living room speakers, when I am hearing music through my external 
>>>> speakers.
>>>> 
>>>> Then I have a thing that in my opinion is hanging back. I think you have 
>>>> guessed what it is. Wright it is braille. There are a lot of apples 
>>>> choices i simply do not understand. Why are we not allowed as users to 
>>>> modify apples braille tables, there are really many bugs. I would also 
>>>> like to see a function, so that we can add hotkeys to mac commands not 
>>>> only VOICEOver commands.
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards Annie.
>>>> 
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