Re: Moderator Note - The Next Generation of VIPhone

2022-01-28 Thread 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries
I found that the way to get past that message about not having permission was to swipe to the log in button, double tap and then log in and then go back to the email, click again on the link and now I get an option to sign up to the group! Harry > On 28 Jan 2022, at 21:41, Mary Otten wrote: >

Re: Moderator Note - The Next Generation of VIPhone

2022-01-28 Thread Karen Lewellen
actually, I am not personally joining, but hopefully that solution will help those with link issues. Karen On Fri, 28 Jan 2022, joseph hudson wrote: Try sending a message with the word subscribe to the following email address. viphone2+subscr...@googlegroups.com On Jan 28, 2022, at 4:18 P

Re: Moderator Note - The Next Generation of VIPhone

2022-01-28 Thread joseph hudson
Try sending a message with the word subscribe to the following email address. viphone2+subscr...@googlegroups.com > On Jan 28, 2022, at 4:18 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > I will add that previously one could subscribe via e-mail instead of visiting > the google groups site at all. > I am guess

Re: Moderator Note - The Next Generation of VIPhone

2022-01-28 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
isionaries Cc: Cara Quinn Subject: Re: Moderator Note - The Next Generation of VIPhone HI All, Just as a general reply, Mark and I will definitely see what we can do to try to figure out what is going on. My sincere apologies for the inconvenience. As I said, we are still considering moving the l

Re: Moderator Note - The Next Generation of VIPhone

2022-01-28 Thread Cara Quinn
HI All, Just as a general reply, Mark and I will definitely see what we can do to try to figure out what is going on. My sincere apologies for the inconvenience. As I said, we are still considering moving the list but we have more research to do. Just to give you an idea, at present with our

Re: Moderator Note - The Next Generation of VIPhone

2022-01-28 Thread Karen Lewellen
I will add that previously one could subscribe via e-mail instead of visiting the google groups site at all. I am guessing this is gone, especially given google's desire to track everyone these days. would freelists.org be a possibility? Karen On Fri, 28 Jan 2022, Mary Otten wrote: Well, I

Re: Moderator Note - The Next Generation of VIPhone

2022-01-28 Thread Mary Otten
Well, I don’t have an official invitation yet, but I did try clicking on the link that was in the original message where you could supposedly go and get a group subscription link that way. Except I got the same message that Max did. You don’t have permission to access this content. You can try l

Re: Moderator Note - The Next Generation of VIPhone

2022-01-28 Thread Agent086b
Hi, clicking on the link in the invite email takes me to a 404 error page not found. Cara clicking on the link in your message to the list says I don’t have access to that page also. Can anybody give me any pointers? Thanks for any help. Max > On 28 Jan 2022, at 11:14 am, Cara Quinn wrote: > >

Re: Moderator Note - The Next Generation of VIPhone

2022-01-27 Thread 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries
Hi Cara. Well I'm glad everything's back up and running with you guys over at VIPhone. I'm just hoping that the same outcome doesn't happen with this group. As for VIPhone, I'm thinking I may return. I just needed a break from the drama pool that was cluttering my inbox every day. So I may click

Re: Moderator Note - The Next Generation of VIPhone

2022-01-27 Thread joseph hodge
Thank you for explaining. I hope I wasn't being rude by asking it just crossed my mind lol. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 27, 2022, at 7:27 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: > > Hi Joseph, > > Well there are obviously no guarantees, but considering that VIPhone has been > around for about thirteen yea

Re: Moderator Note - The Next Generation of VIPhone

2022-01-27 Thread joseph hudson
I think if she did that, and since she has such a wide membership, we would have to pay yearly. And some of us would have to sponsor the payment. Do you need to keep in mind, that to bite off of that, it would be $220 for the whole year. So each person that wanted to join, after the first hundre

Re: Moderator Note - The Next Generation of VIPhone

2022-01-27 Thread Ryan Mann
have you considered moving over to groups. Io instead of using Google? Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 27, 2022, at 11:44 AM, Cara Quinn wrote: > > Hi Michael, > > Neither do we! > > As I said, neither Mark nor I had gotten any notice whatsoever from Google. > Even before I’d had a chance to l

Re: Moderator Note - The Next Generation of VIPhone

2022-01-27 Thread Karen Lewellen
Hi Cara, I am wondering if you contacted google's accessibility team directly regarding the review request? Perhaps I am wrong, but making that decision without notification seems more like wanting you to upgrade your group to something else instead. Best, Karen

Re: Moderator Note - The Next Generation of VIPhone

2022-01-27 Thread Cara Quinn
Hi Joseph, Well there are obviously no guarantees, but considering that VIPhone has been around for about thirteen years now, I think we hopefully will be OK until we can think of a better solution. :) We’re still not opposed to the idea of moving the list to a new provider and the money, whil

Re: Moderator Note - The Next Generation of VIPhone

2022-01-27 Thread Cara Quinn
hey Max, no worries and you’re not thick! :) yes, go ahead and click on the link in the email to accept the invitation. I haven’t actually seen what the invites look like from the receiving end so perhaps someone else here may be of more help regarding the actual wording of the links in the inv

Re: Moderator Note - The Next Generation of VIPhone

2022-01-27 Thread joseph hodge
My only question is since Google kicked you guys off the first time what makes the second group any different? I’m just worried that people are going to sign up just to have the same issue arise who knows when! It would just be interesting to know why Google did this so the second time around it

Re: Moderator Note - The Next Generation of VIPhone

2022-01-27 Thread Michael Marshall
The whole thing is ridiculous. > On 28 Jan 2022, at 3:43 am, Cara Quinn wrote: > > Hi Michael, > > Neither do we! > > As I said, neither Mark nor I had gotten any notice whatsoever from Google. > Even before I’d had a chance to look at the group that day, listers sent Mark > and I notes lett

Re: Moderator Note - The Next Generation of VIPhone

2022-01-27 Thread Agent086b
hi, I am a bit thick I know! If we receive an invitation does that mean we then click on the link to join? Or is this not necessary? Max. > On 27 Jan 2022, at 11:19 am, Cara Quinn wrote: > > Hi All, > > I have some good news! > > Mark and I have started VIPhone, The Next Generation. :) > > F

Re: Moderator Note - The Next Generation of VIPhone

2022-01-27 Thread Cara Quinn
Hi Michael, Neither do we! As I said, neither Mark nor I had gotten any notice whatsoever from Google. Even before I’d had a chance to look at the group that day, listers sent Mark and I notes letting us know that the group had been banned from Google and that they could not access it. Even I

Re: Moderator Note - The Next Generation of VIPhone

2022-01-26 Thread joseph hudson
Hey thanks, I have successfully added myself. > On Jan 26, 2022, at 6:19 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: > > Hi All, > > I have some good news! > > Mark and I have started VIPhone, The Next Generation. :) > > For now at least, this list will pick up where VIPhone left off. At least > until Google deci

Re: Moderator Note - The Next Generation of VIPhone

2022-01-26 Thread Michael Marshall
What exactly is googles problem? have they actually earmarked anything that could be potentially harmful? I just don't get this. > On 27 Jan 2022, at 11:19 am, Cara Quinn wrote: > > Hi All, > > I have some good news! > > Mark and I have started VIPhone, The Next Generation. :) > > For now at

Moderator Note - The Next Generation of VIPhone

2022-01-26 Thread Cara Quinn
Hi All, I have some good news! Mark and I have started VIPhone, The Next Generation. :) For now at least, this list will pick up where VIPhone left off. At least until Google decides to review us. -Then we’ll see what happens from there. Over the next few days, Mark and I will be inviting all

Re: Moderator Note: Status of VIPhone

2022-01-24 Thread joseph hudson
Cara, I know that some of your listers are on my group called blind apples owner as well, I'm gonna forward this over there but I'm going to say that if you know all of your subscribers, and have their emails, let them know that they are welcome over on the blind Apple's list to ask their phone

Moderator Note: Status of VIPhone

2022-01-24 Thread Cara Quinn
Hi All, I wanted to post this here as some of us are on both lists. As some of you may know, as of Friday, Google has prevented access to the VIPhone mailing list because it says that the list contains spam or questionable content. However, they did not alert either Mark or myself about this,

Quick Moderator Note -was- Re: experience with N1 MacBook Air

2021-05-06 Thread Cara Quinn
Hi Brad and All, I’d like to suggest that we all be aware of our tones a bit in these types of conversations. First off, when someone posts here with an issue that clearly is problematic for them or is not a situation that they want to be engaged in, telling them that they brought it on themse

Not quite a moderator note -was- Re: Happy Independence Day USA!

2020-07-04 Thread Cara Quinn
Hey All, Please take it easy, OK? I haven’t checked out the YT links yet but there is nothing wrong with the sentiments in these first couple of messages. Please don’t escalate this into a flame war. A member of my family is one of the very first women Marines so this day and what it represen

RE: Moderator Note - Signatures and Politics etc on the List

2020-07-02 Thread Simon A Fogarty
And another one bites the dust. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings Sent: Friday, 3 July 2020 7:28 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Moderator Note - Signatures and Politics etc on the List Hi Cara, Thank you for replying. Unfortunately I

RE: Moderator Note - Signatures and Politics etc on the List

2020-07-02 Thread Simon A Fogarty
isionaries@googlegroups.com Cc: Cara Quinn Subject: Moderator Note - Signatures and Politics etc on the List Hi All, Firstly, please let me apologize for the delay in writing. My keeping up with each topic these days has been in fits and starts. I want to thank a hand full of kind souls who highlighted

Re: Moderator Note - Signatures and Politics etc on the List

2020-07-02 Thread Robin
Oops, I meant ThisMessage to be Off the MailingList, MyApologies At 03:52 PM 7/2/2020, you wrote: Is This Mr.Eric i.e., the R&B Guy from the MobileApp, Vorail? Meanin' Back in May2016 & June2016? JustWonderin At 02:11 PM 7/2/2020, you wrote: Hmmm. Never caught that thread. Usually, when I s

Re: Moderator Note - Signatures and Politics etc on the List

2020-07-02 Thread Robin
Is This Mr.Eric i.e., the R&B Guy from the MobileApp, Vorail? Meanin' Back in May2016 & June2016? JustWonderin At 02:11 PM 7/2/2020, you wrote: Hmmm. Never caught that thread. Usually, when I see politics, I simply delete and move on. Political discussions often devolve into meaningless argu

Re: Moderator Note - Signatures and Politics etc on the List

2020-07-02 Thread Robin
I'm not Leavin' this MailingList At 01:12 PM 7/2/2020, you wrote: I didn't follow that thread so I'm not leaving. I have my opinions like everybody else but there are plenty of other places to express those. > On Jul 2, 2020, at 3:08 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries wrote: > > I ho

Re: Moderator Note - Signatures and Politics etc on the List

2020-07-02 Thread Eric Oyen
Hmmm. Never caught that thread. Usually, when I see politics, I simply delete and move on. Political discussions often devolve into meaningless arguments, insults, name calling, labeling and argumentative fallacies. I get enough of that on Facebook, twitter, tick tock, snapchat, what sap, and Li

Re: Moderator Note - Signatures and Politics etc on the List

2020-07-02 Thread Karen Lewellen
And the individual's signature? Has something been said to them privately? On Thu, 2 Jul 2020, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries wrote: I hope everyone isn’t leaving as it would be a sad day. We should be helping each other and not fighting. There’s enough sadness in the world with the

Re: Moderator Note - Signatures and Politics etc on the List

2020-07-02 Thread Lorie McCloud
I didn't follow that thread so I'm not leaving. I have my opinions like everybody else but there are plenty of other places to express those. > On Jul 2, 2020, at 3:08 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > I hope everyone isn’t leaving as it would be a sad day. We should be he

Re: Moderator Note - Signatures and Politics etc on the List

2020-07-02 Thread 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries
I hope everyone isn’t leaving as it would be a sad day. We should be helping each other and not fighting. There’s enough sadness in the world with the virus and other things happening. Kawal. > On 2 Jul 2020, at 20:34, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Stay put Petrus. Don't let a

Re: Moderator Note - Signatures and Politics etc on the List

2020-07-02 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Stay put Petrus. Don't let anyone try to run you off. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Freedom of Speech Carries With It Implicit Responsibility. On 7/2/2020 12:27 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote: Hi Cara, Thank you for replying. Unfortunately I don’t think I can remain on thi

Re: Moderator Note - Signatures and Politics etc on the List

2020-07-02 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Hi Cara, Thank you for replying. Unfortunately I don’t think I can remain on this list. I’d like to say thank you to all of those people that helped me with my Mac over the last year and a half. People would be most welcome to keep in touch off list. petrus.t...@gmail.com > On 3/07/2020, at

Moderator Note - Signatures and Politics etc on the List

2020-07-02 Thread Cara Quinn
Hi All, Firstly, please let me apologize for the delay in writing. My keeping up with each topic these days has been in fits and starts. I want to thank a hand full of kind souls who highlighted the recent troubling thread. -And I needed to make sure I read through the thread(s) in entirety be

Moderator Note -was- Re: Happy Independence day USA!!!

2018-07-05 Thread Cara Quinn
Hi everyone, Please, if we can; let’s just celebrate the good of the holiday and the decent sentiment behind the original post and leave the rest. These are strange times to be sure, which I think we can all agree on. I hope you all had a lovely celebration yesterday (for those who celebrate) a

MODERATOR NOTE: A Quick Update

2017-09-11 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone, While we are all concerned for the well-being of those in hazardous areas of the world, I ask that we keep these concerns off-list. To be more precise, If you want to know if someone lives in a particular area, for whatever reason, post your questions and/or well-wishes but, aft

Re: Moderator Note -was- Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread Scott Granados
Kawal, haha well said and for the record I’m on your side with this one. To me though moderators are more like little power hungry DMV workers who have no control over their own lives so they have to force their wills where they can. (Kawal and folks over sees the DMV is the department of moto

Re: Moderator Note -was- Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
ET, for years the moderator's notes have not really change. They are forever telling someone off and so it is like a kid being naughty doing the same over and over. I'd rather laugh otherwise we'll all get in to a punch up as it were. Don't forget, what are we, people who don't really know ea

Re: Moderator Note -was- Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread E.T.
What I have found, and still find after all these years. amusing is how the "kids" show total lack of maturity. Kawal, you do not need to subject yourself to the whims of the moderators, just show yourself out. Doing so would prove your own maturity. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you

Re: Moderator Note -was- Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Sorry, but I find moderator's notes amusing. You don't know how much I laugh because little things turn in to big things. I've not had such a laugh for a long time on this list. May be I'll get in to trouble, but at this point, I am not too worried. Cara sounds like the head mistress, Mark s

Re: Moderator Note -was- Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread Cara Quinn
Thanks ET. Appreciate that. Will read this over as soon as I can. Have a great day! Cheers! Cara --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/models/Cara-Quinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Aug 10, 2017

Re: Moderator Note -was- Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread E.T.
Apple's public beta NDA agreement at the following link... From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did

Re: Moderator Note -was- Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread Cara Quinn
Hi Scott, First off, I have not seen every post from Mark. I can assure you though that if he has inadvertently posted anything that was under beta, it was an accident. I’ve spoken with him and I trust him implicitly otherwise he would not be moderating this list. My understanding is that any

Re: Moderator Note -was- Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread Scott Granados
Yes it really is. When mark posts tens of articles on IOS 11 which is still in beta yet complains when Anders asks a legitimate question that impacts our community there is something clearly wrong. I don’t need to know you personally to know your personal feelings, remember the phrase actions

Moderator Note -was- Re: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.

2017-08-10 Thread Cara Quinn
Hey Scott, Why are you saying this policy has to do with personal feelings when you have not taken any time at all to get to know either me or Mark? You have no idea what our personal feelings are on this. -Okay, to be fair, perhaps you have gotten to know Mark unbeknownst to me, but I know yo

Moderator Note - Public Domain -was- Re: Accessible web conferencing: zoom.us

2017-04-21 Thread Cara Quinn
Hi All, Firstly good morning! :) I am writing this before reading the rest of this thread just yet so as to keep this note clean in essence and avoid any of the emotional nature of this issue so as to keep this policy clear and simple. For now at least. :) In regard to anything anyone posts her

Re: Quick Moderator note -was- Re: Requesting a Little Support via Twitter

2017-02-23 Thread E.T.
n Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2017 11:35 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Quick Moderator note -was- Re: Requesting a Little Support via Twitter and I don’t appreciate racist political crap on a list about the mac! I get enough of that in rl. On Feb 22, 2017, at 5:32 PM, Scott

RE: Quick Moderator note -was- Re: Requesting a Little Support via Twitter

2017-02-23 Thread Simon Fogarty
aries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Quick Moderator note -was- Re: Requesting a Little Support via Twitter and I don’t appreciate racist political crap on a list about the mac! I get enough of that in rl. > On Feb 22, 2017, at 5:32 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > > I disagree, if someone walked

Re: Quick Moderator note -was- Re: Requesting a Little Support via Twitter

2017-02-22 Thread Cara Quinn
Scott, Of course, and that is exactly why I wrote ‘this goes for all of us’ in my note. I actually appreciate a good venting of the spleen so to speak but this just is not the place for this. All I am saying is that if you or anyone else wants to vent about a thread or person etc, either write

Re: Quick Moderator note -was- Re: Requesting a Little Support via Twitter

2017-02-22 Thread Scott Granados
Nobody gave you any racist political crap, not here. Although I can tell by your attitude you bring it on your self living with this victim mentality. I most certainly made no racist statements nor would I. I made several statements based on Department of Justice published crime statistics rep

Re: Quick Moderator note -was- Re: Requesting a Little Support via Twitter

2017-02-22 Thread Scott Granados
I disagree, if someone walked up to you and threw a wet blanket in the middle of your conversation for no reason you’d speak up when they clearly could have ignored the thread. It wasn’t like it was a constructive criticism or a reasoned response I’d have welcomed that it was just whining to ha

Re: Quick Moderator note -was- Re: Requesting a Little Support via Twitter

2017-02-22 Thread alia robinson
and I don’t appreciate racist political crap on a list about the mac! I get enough of that in rl. > On Feb 22, 2017, at 5:32 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > > I disagree, if someone walked up to you and threw a wet blanket in the middle > of your conversation for no reason you’d speak up when they

Quick Moderator note -was- Re: Requesting a Little Support via Twitter

2017-02-22 Thread Cara Quinn
hey Scott, just a friendly reminder that you also have a delete key. So please also use it when you see a message that you do not like. K? this goes for all of us. As much as I like a spicy conversation sometimes, this is a mailing list for everyone who appreciates good information and civility

new Moderator Note thought

2016-11-11 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi List, Mark and Cara, My apologies to you as Mods for this but I have to say it. I don't mind a bit of banter on an email list every once and a while, this political thread went on for a few days and Mark has requested it stopped. Thanks for that by the way. Yet we get one dick head who thi

RE: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Global Warming

2016-11-11 Thread Simon Fogarty
Thank god for the delete option on keyboards and email in boxes! From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gs Sent: Friday, 11 November 2016 12:01 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Global Warming Increment

RE: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Global Warming

2016-11-11 Thread Simon Fogarty
earts and time. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gs Sent: Friday, 11 November 2016 11:48 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Global Warming Stand by what you want. The list refle

RE: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Global Warming

2016-11-11 Thread Simon Fogarty
ct: Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Global Warming Well, I'm being very honest here. I don't have the time to do this. I really value this list and know that even in the threads that I eventually get to with 50 or more messages with the predominant subject of demented political opinions, there migh

Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Global Warming

2016-11-10 Thread Scott Granados
I have a question, if someone has a problem with the way the list is moderated shouldn’t they take it up with the moderator, off list and professionally instead of crying to the list and creating more traffic? Don’t we owe Mark and Kara that level of decency when it’s an individual concern? >

Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Global Warming

2016-11-10 Thread Todor Fassl
dmarketing.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: "gs" To: Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 6:10 PM Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Global Warming Ok, Tim, I'll make an exception as is apparently frequently made here. I'll respond again. I agree that

Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Global Warming

2016-11-10 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
ot; To: Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 6:10 PM Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Global Warming Ok, Tim, I'll make an exception as is apparently frequently made here. I'll respond again. I agree that I expressed frustration and emotion and that it wasn't simply a statement of

Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Global Warming

2016-11-10 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Agreed. --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. i...@gillandmarketing.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: "gs" To: Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 5:48 PM Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Global Warming Stand by what you want

Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Global Warming

2016-11-10 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
ining Instructor. i...@gillandmarketing.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" To: "Macvisionaries" Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 5:42 PM Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Global Warming It is most unfair to attack someone who has given up his tim

Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Global Warming

2016-11-10 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
ay not get results. It's truly a gamble in a hat. --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. i...@gillandmarketing.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: gs To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 5:32 PM Sub

Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Global Warming

2016-11-10 Thread Todor Fassl
Dude... You are making a complete fool of yourself. You are embarrassing yourself. Press the freakin' delete key. Just stop! Put the keyboard down and walk away. On 11/10/2016 05:10 PM, gs wrote: Ok, Tim, I'll make an exception as is apparently frequently made here. I'll respond again. I a

Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Global Warming

2016-11-10 Thread gs
Ok, Tim, I'll make an exception as is apparently frequently made here. I'll respond again. I agree that I expressed frustration and emotion and that it wasn't simply a statement of fact. It's the facts as I see them. On Nov 10, 2016, at 5:56 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, I disagree. There was n

Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Global Warming

2016-11-10 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
This is your opinion that a list could not be run correctly as you forget, everyone has a different style of running lists. I think Mark likes to see if topics close themselves. I think he understands that we are all adults and we present ourselves in a proper manor of professionalism and cour

Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Global Warming

2016-11-10 Thread gs
Increment the count. It took a while for me to respond at all. Now I'll respond to any of them. You've done so yourself. The point is that this list is not being run correctly and I would usually honor the owner/moderator requests to leave these posts off the lists. I'm tired of it. If I am remo

Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Global Warming

2016-11-10 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, I disagree. There was not simply a statement of fact. Read your own post to verify. You expressed opinions on how you believe the List should be run. You expressed emotion with respect to your frustration that the List wasn't being run in the manner you thought it should be. These, aga

Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Global Warming

2016-11-10 Thread Todor Fassl
By my count, this is at least your fourth message about the off-topic messages on this list. Seems a tad ironic to me. Bet you respond publically to this one too. On 11/10/2016 04:48 PM, gs wrote: Stand by what you want. The list reflects the results of the moderator's involvement. Rather s

Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Global Warming

2016-11-10 Thread gs
Stand by what you want. The list reflects the results of the moderator's involvement. Rather silly to post something like this. Whether you stand by it or not, the results speak for themselves. There is no attack. simple statements of facts. On Nov 10, 2016, at 5:42 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote

Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Global Warming

2016-11-10 Thread Tim Kilburn
Plus 1 on this one Kawal. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Nov 10, 2016, at 15:42, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: It is most unfair to attack someone who has given up his time to moderate the list. Please bear in mind we all have lives and our lives do not evolve around lists as you

Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Global Warming

2016-11-10 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
It is most unfair to attack someone who has given up his time to moderate the list. Please bear in mind we all have lives and our lives do not evolve around lists as you don't know what priorities that person might have. Sorry but I won't stand by listening to someone saying that Mark does not

Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Global Warming

2016-11-10 Thread gs
Well, I'm being very honest here. I don't have the time to do this. I really value this list and know that even in the threads that I eventually get to with 50 or more messages with the predominant subject of demented political opinions, there might be a nugget of information that will mean an i

Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Global Warming

2016-11-10 Thread Joseph Hudson
Well just say this much, when an issue arises, we are quick to stop it. And as far as traffic, we just don't have a lot of traffic going on right now. There are some days that are busier than others. and it's always very relevant. Joseph Hudson Group administrator for the following groups chat h

Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Global Warming

2016-11-10 Thread Kliphton Miller
My list is very high traffic, and no off topic BS, not even for an hour. the info is below Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV? New user and want quick efficient answers? Or maybe you know apple products and want to contribute? Then come join a list where questions are always answ

Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Global Warming

2016-11-10 Thread gs
I like a lot of traffic if it is relevant. The problem here is list management. Nobody seems to be dedicated enough to address the issues. The owner shows up every six months with some sort of apology and then cedes the running of the list to someone else who apparently doesn't get it either. Ju

Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Global Warming

2016-11-10 Thread Joseph Hudson
If you're looking for a group, the doesn't have stuff like this going on. You can come to the group that is below in my signature. We don't have junk like this going on. And not a lot of traffic either. Joseph Hudson Group administrator for the following groups chat http://list.ntxability.org/ma

Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Global Warming

2016-11-10 Thread gs
I waste a considerable amount of my time reviewing this list each day because it is a valuable resource to those who use VoiceOver on the Mac. If you have the time to wade through the bull, do so. I don't. On Nov 10, 2016, at 4:47 PM, Todor Fassl wrote: Lighten up, Francis. On 11/10/2016 03:

Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Global Warming

2016-11-10 Thread Todor Fassl
Lighten up, Francis. On 11/10/2016 03:45 PM, gs wrote: Hmm. Well I have contributed because the thread is split. I'm sick of it. This should have been addressed before and you need to remove people instead of making a generic announcement such as the one below. On Nov 10, 2016, at 2:12 PM, M

Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Global Warming

2016-11-10 Thread gs
Hmm. Well I have contributed because the thread is split. I'm sick of it. This should have been addressed before and you need to remove people instead of making a generic announcement such as the one below. On Nov 10, 2016, at 2:12 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Everyone, This thread is now considered c

MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Global Warming

2016-11-10 Thread M. Taylor
Everyone, This thread is now considered closed. Do not send anymore on-list posts regarding this subject or contribute to this thread. Thank you, Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Todor Fassl Sent: Th

RE: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Wifi VS. Cellular?

2016-11-07 Thread Simon Fogarty
Ating an apple now, it keeps the doctor away! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Monday, 7 November 2016 3:44 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Wifi VS. Cellular

Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Wifi VS. Cellular?

2016-11-06 Thread elayneh
people. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin Sent: Sunday, 6 November 2016 5:20 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Wifi VS. Cellular? Hi Chuck, Sorry, just

RE: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Wifi VS. Cellular?

2016-11-06 Thread M. Taylor
unday, November 06, 2016 2:40 PM To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Wifi VS. Cellular? Does it count I used an Apple product to write it? ;) > On Nov 6, 2016, at 9:44 AM, E.T. wrote: > > How did this morph from a moderator's note to h

Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Wifi VS. Cellular?

2016-11-06 Thread Scott Granados
>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin >>> Sent: Sunday, 6 November 2016 5:20 AM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE

Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Wifi VS. Cellular?

2016-11-06 Thread E.T.
s.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin Sent: Sunday, 6 November 2016 5:20 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Wifi VS. Cellular? Hi Chuck, Sorry, just saw this and have already voted. Honestly there's nothing that you could show me about either of the candid

Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Wifi VS. Cellular?

2016-11-06 Thread Scott Granados
- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin > Sent: Sunday, 6 November 2016 5:20 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Wifi VS. Cellular? > > Hi Chuck, > > Sorry, just saw

RE: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Wifi VS. Cellular?

2016-11-05 Thread Simon Fogarty
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin Sent: Sunday, 6 November 2016 5:20 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Wifi VS. Cellular? Hi Chuck, Sorry, just saw this and have already voted. Honestly there's nothing that you could show me about either o

Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Wifi VS. Cellular?

2016-11-05 Thread Scott Granados
;> On Nov 5, 2016, at 5:20 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: >>>>> >>>>> SO who do you vote for when your choices are both untrustworthy lying >>>>> scum are teere other unknown of parties that can be voted for?from the >>>>> outside Hillary is the bet

Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Wifi VS. Cellular?

2016-11-05 Thread Scott Granados
th untrustworthy lying >>>>> scum are teere other unknown of parties that can be voted for?from the >>>>> outside Hillary is the better of the 2 evils but even so I don't think >>>>> she's the right person as for Donny >>>>> His w

Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Wifi VS. Cellular?

2016-11-05 Thread E.T.
Halton Sent: Saturday, 5 November 2016 11:33 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Wifi VS. Cellular? I get cited assistance from a poll worker. They take my ballot, read it to me, and Mark my selections for me, and then insert the ballot into the reading machine for me.

Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Wifi VS. Cellular?

2016-11-05 Thread Donna Goodin
t think she's the >>>> right person as for Donny >>>> His womanising sexist attitude and general racest ignorance makes me want >>>> to shoot myself. >>>> >>>> And I don’t even live in that country but he's a bad representation of the

Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Wifi VS. Cellular?

2016-11-05 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
;>>> His womanising sexist attitude and general racest ignorance makes me want >>>> to shoot myself. >>>> >>>> And I don’t even live in that country but he's a bad representation of the >>>> male species if he is actually a male! >&g

Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Wifi VS. Cellular?

2016-11-05 Thread Donna Goodin
gt;>>> right person as for Donny >>>> His womanising sexist attitude and general racest ignorance makes me want >>>> to shoot myself. >>>> >>>> And I don’t even live in that country but he's a bad representation of the >>>&g

Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Wifi VS. Cellular?

2016-11-05 Thread CHUCK REICHEL
he 2 evils but even so I don't think she's the >>> right person as for Donny >>> His womanising sexist attitude and general racest ignorance makes me want >>> to shoot myself. >>> >>> And I don’t even live in that country but he's a bad repre

Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Wifi VS. Cellular?

2016-11-05 Thread Scott Granados
2 evils but even so I don't think she's the >>> right person as for Donny >>> His womanising sexist attitude and general racest ignorance makes me want >>> to shoot myself. >>> >>> And I don’t even live in that country but he's a bad

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