I agree I’m glad this came up. I’m happy to answer for anyone outside the country the procedural stuff and how we do things and how our constitution works. It’s an important topic, I’m glad the moderators allowed a little leeway but I don’t want to offend folks not interested in the topic either. I’m happy to answer questions off list though if any remain. Just like we had I think an important conversation on Brexit our election, especially the non partisan procedural stuff is important and effects the rest of the world in a similar way. I’m glad the moderators allowed a bit of wiggle room in the rules but I don’t want to abuse that generosity either.
> On Nov 5, 2016, at 12:18 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote: > > It's all been interesting and thanks for replying to my question. I'd love > to talk about this some more but am thinking there will be another > moderator's note asking us to close this topic. > > On 5 Nov 2016, at 14:33, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Donna, I went Gary Johnson but leaving it blank is another option. You >> probably also have Jill Stein as your green party option. You might pick >> one of them whom ever closest matches your beliefs. Or, you could write in, >> I hear Kermit needs the votes. >> >> >>> On Nov 5, 2016, at 9:36 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote: >>> >>> I'm with you, Scott! I'll be going to early vote this morning, and I plan >>> to vote for None of the Above. I can't vote for Donald Trump, but nor can >>> I vote for Hilary. Even though I know no one will notice, I want my vote >>> to be registered as not supporting either of those two whack jobs. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>>> On Nov 5, 2016, at 5:36 AM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Well, you can’t say Hilary isn’t racist either. Being outside the country >>>> you may not know but she calls young black men Super predators and her >>>> husband has a long racist history. Also, Hilaries mentor was a guy named >>>> Robert Bird from West Virginia. Robert Bird was a Klu Klux Klan member >>>> and openly used the N Bomb on US television while Hilary was following in >>>> his foot steps. So let’s not give her a pass either, she has a long >>>> checker history not only of criminal behavior, pay to play business >>>> dealings but anti black pro KKK dealings. Both candidates are flawed and >>>> in full disclosure, I voted for neither option. >>>> >>>> To answer your question, yes there are 3rd party options but none have any >>>> sizable following. The Libertarians of which I am a member are best >>>> described as economically conservative and socially liberal meaning for >>>> example we want small government but also support Gay Marriage or pro >>>> choice viewpoints. (just an example) There is also the Green party this >>>> year which is a very left leaning group heavily environmentally focused >>>> and I believe has historical connections to the communist workers party. >>>> To give you an idea of the percentage breakdown, about 45% of the >>>> population of the US will vote Democrat, about 45% will vote Republican >>>> and the remainder will vote 5 - 8% Libertarian, the remainder will be the >>>> Green party and the write in option. Voters have the option to write the >>>> name of anyone they wish on the ballot as well instead of picking one of >>>> the listed options. I know for example someone who is writing in Kermit >>>> The Frog. >>>> >>>> Personally, I know the candidate I voted for won’t win, I hope Hillary >>>> does not as I view her as more dangerous to the country over all being a >>>> complete gun grabbing criminal. I do support Trump’s economic plan but >>>> like you Simon I don’t feel either candidate is a great option and in >>>> order to sleep at night I couldn’t in good conscience vote for either >>>> option, so I didn’t. >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Nov 5, 2016, at 5:20 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> SO who do you vote for when your choices are both untrustworthy lying >>>>> scum are teere other unknown of parties that can be voted for?from the >>>>> outside Hillary is the better of the 2 evils but even so I don't think >>>>> she's the right person as for Donny >>>>> His womanising sexist attitude and general racest ignorance makes me want >>>>> to shoot myself. >>>>> >>>>> And I don’t even live in that country but he's a bad representation of >>>>> the male species if he is actually a male! >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Phil Halton >>>>> Sent: Saturday, 5 November 2016 11:33 AM >>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Wifi VS. Cellular? >>>>> >>>>> I get cited assistance from a poll worker. They take my ballot, read it >>>>> to me, and Mark my selections for me, and then insert the ballot into the >>>>> reading machine for me. I think of it as the same kind of relationship as >>>>> that between priest and penitent. They don't judge me for my choices and >>>>> I have complete faith that they are marking the selections I tell them. >>>>> Sometimes just got to go on faith and don't be embarrassed to let another >>>>> person know what you thinking. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my IPhone >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 4, 2016, at 4:12 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Those of you who vote, do you get templates on your ballot paper in a >>>>>> braille format? Of course you can only have one of those if you go to a >>>>>> local polling station. How do blind people vote in America if they have >>>>>> no useful vision? May be you can reply to me off list so as not to jamb >>>>>> people's inboxes as it's nothing to do with Macs etc. This is for my >>>>>> knowledge. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for any replies. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kawal. >>>>>>> On 4 Nov 2016, at 17:29, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We don’t get election day as a holiday, things are pretty much open. >>>>>>> Sometimes they close the schools because they may use schools as >>>>>>> polling places but that’s not a universal thing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Nov 4, 2016, at 3:05 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> O, Ok, >>>>>>>> You guys get all kinds of crazy holidays. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Waw really a holiday for electing a muppet in to a position of power? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It really doesn't matter which one wins, the worlds in danger >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. >>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, 4 November 2016 3:16 AM >>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Wifi VS. Cellular? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes a big one, next Tuesday, when we celebrate the end of a crazy >>>>>>>> insane political campaign that dragged on far too long. (rolls eyes) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>>>>> Without H2O there is no life! >>>>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 11/3/2016 1:48 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hi Mark, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Could you clarify for me please? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What holiday season is it you are referring to? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Does America have big holidays coming up for some reason? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Simon F >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor >>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, 3 November 2016 7:52 AM >>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> Subject: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Wifi VS. Cellular? >>>>>>>>> Importance: High >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello All, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It's been a while since last I posted as a moderator. This is >>>>>>>>> because as responsible men and women, I trust that everyone in this >>>>>>>>> community will conduct themselves in a gracious and kind manner. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Having said this, in light of the post, upon which I am commenting, I >>>>>>>>> say the following: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Scott, (and everyone, for that matter), name calling is unacceptable >>>>>>>>> and inexcusable in this community and it simply will not be tolerated. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In my world, this sentiment is clear but just in case you live in a >>>>>>>>> different world, this means that should anyone persists with this >>>>>>>>> kind of behavior, they will be banned from the list. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I will post this in a completely separate thread, also, just so >>>>>>>>> everyone will see it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To end on a positive note, I wish you all the best holiday season, >>>>>>>>> ever. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Mark >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott >>>>>>>>> Granados >>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 9:41 AM >>>>>>>>> To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Wifi VS. Cellular? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It’s to bad you’re both wrong and Chris asked the question because >>>>>>>>> this is right in my area but since he blocks me and since he’s such >>>>>>>>> an ass to everybody I guess the wrong information will have to be out >>>>>>>>> there. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Anyone who wishes the correct answer including you Ray please contact >>>>>>>>> me off list. Aside from Chris of course. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Nov 2, 2016, at 12:37 PM, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Seems to me you might try it this way. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you have cellular service turned off for any apps, those apps >>>>>>>>> WILL, NOT, be able to use data if you go outside of Wifi range. IF >>>>>>>>> you turn cellular off all together, and have only Wifi calling >>>>>>>>> inabled, you WILL, NOT, be able to make or receive calls unless you >>>>>>>>> are in range of your WIFI network. Can’t see what’s so hard to >>>>>>>>> understand about that myself. Seems very basic to me. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the >>>>>>>>> blind built-in >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon >>>>>>>>> Wireless iPhone7+ and Apple TV user! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Nov 2, 2016, at 11:30 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >>>>>>>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Guys, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't know how to better explain this, and honestly, I'm getting a >>>>>>>>> bit agrevated trying to do so. Maybe one of you can chime in and help >>>>>>>>> me out. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have a friend who is on this list. I'm not going to reveal which >>>>>>>>> member it is, as I don't wish to put anyone here on the spot. I'm not >>>>>>>>> even going to reveal their gender. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Anyway, he/she has just recently obtained an iPhone. They are >>>>>>>>> incredibly new to the iPhone world. In fact, they are new to the >>>>>>>>> smart phone world in general. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> When they go into settings, Cellular, they see things using data like >>>>>>>>> Apple Music, YOutube, etc. I tried to explain to them that yes, those >>>>>>>>> things are turned on, as they are set to where cellular data is >>>>>>>>> allowed to be used with the apps. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I told them that if they either turn off any of those apps, or for >>>>>>>>> that mind, do what they wanna do by totally turning cellular off >>>>>>>>> completely, that's not a very wise idea in most cases. I tried >>>>>>>>> explaining that when cellular is off, then nothing will work if >>>>>>>>> they're on the Verizon cellular 4G/LTE network. The only time they'd >>>>>>>>> have data internet connectivity would be if they were on a wifi >>>>>>>>> network. Obviously, they don't believe me, or don't understand, one >>>>>>>>> of the two. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't know how to explain this any easier. I told them that all >>>>>>>>> they're doing by disabling those apps under there like Apple Music, >>>>>>>>> etc. is, they're not disabling the apps from currently! using data. >>>>>>>>> All they're doing is disabling the apps so they never! will use >>>>>>>>> cellular. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The example I gave them was, if they turn off Apple Music, then any >>>>>>>>> time they move out of range of their wifi, they won't be able to use >>>>>>>>> Apple Music, as they've disabled it from being able to be used with >>>>>>>>> Cellular. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I told them, if they turn off cellular entirely, then they won't be >>>>>>>>> able to receive phone calls nor make calls, etc. unless they are on a >>>>>>>>> wifi network, as they do have wifi calling enabled. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Of corse, if they're on wifi, then their internet would also work >>>>>>>>> regardless, but as soon as they move away from the wifi range, their >>>>>>>>> internet would go kaput and so would their incoming and outgoing >>>>>>>>> calls. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I tried explaining that by it saying those apps use cellular data, >>>>>>>>> that doesn't mean they're necessarily using their 6 gigs of data >>>>>>>>> right then and there. The only time that happens is if they're not on >>>>>>>>> a wifi network, at which point, it falls back to their LTE cellular >>>>>>>>> data. As long as they are on a wifi network, it would not use their >>>>>>>>> 6GB data plan. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Again, I'm not gonna reveal who it is, but they are on this list, and >>>>>>>>> they definitely do check their mail from this list on a regular >>>>>>>>> basis, so if you respond, I know they'll see it, beyond a doubt. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Perhaps one of you all who're a little more patient today can explain >>>>>>>>> this. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> They told me that they called Verizon, and Verizon is telling them to >>>>>>>>> always leave cellular completely turned off regardless if they are on >>>>>>>>> wifi or not. I find that extremely perplexing, as why the hell would >>>>>>>>> you want your cellular to always be off. O, Kayyy. I know places >>>>>>>>> where yes, you may want it off, but not 100% of the time. Come on! >>>>>>>>> Really? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't doubt what they're telling me Verizon said to them, and >>>>>>>>> honestly, it doesn't exactly surprise me that a rep would a told them >>>>>>>>> this, but I will leavbe my personal opinions out, and spare you all. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Anyway, how else do I explain how that cellualr screen works, and >>>>>>>>> what it does? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Also, they're wonderring in that screen at the veryh bottom what wifi >>>>>>>>> assist is. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I wish they'd leave that stuff back their alone, as I know what's >>>>>>>>> probably gonna happen. They're gonna start turning stuff on/off then >>>>>>>>> will dm me on Twitter and be like, Chris, why is X, y, and Z not >>>>>>>>> working? Then, I'm gonna be lost, as I don't know what they shut on >>>>>>>>> and off. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I keep telling them, if it isn't broken, don't try fixing it, but, >>>>>>>>> they wanna obviously be adventurous, which is fine, to a point, but >>>>>>>>> why ask me what something does, if you're only then gonna turn around >>>>>>>>> and say, well, not according to what x person/persons tell/tells me. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I mean, Gawod! Why're you asking me my opinion if you're then gonna >>>>>>>>> say, not true from what I hear. They tell me they believe me, but, if >>>>>>>>> they do, then why do they contradict every blessid thing I say? I >>>>>>>>> don't clame to know everything, no, and I have no issues with getting >>>>>>>>> 2nd opinions, but that's really rude when asked for help, I provide, >>>>>>>>> then you turn around in my face and say well, that's not true >>>>>>>>> according to whoever intity. If you think what I'm saying isn't gonna >>>>>>>>> be true, then why're you asking me to start with! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> OK, rant over. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Does anyone know how better to explain this screen, and maybe why >>>>>>>>> ideally, you'd want to leave cellular on? Does anyone know further >>>>>>>>> how to convince this person that as long as they're on a wifi >>>>>>>>> network, that they're not eating up their 6GB data? I'm! obviously >>>>>>>>> not gonna convince them, and frankly, I'm tired of trying to do so, >>>>>>>>> with all due respect to them. 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