Hi everyone,

Please, if we can; let’s just celebrate the good of the holiday and the decent 
sentiment behind the original post and leave the rest.

These are strange times to be sure, which I think we can all agree on.

I hope you all had a lovely celebration yesterday (for those who celebrate) and 
I wish those of us both in the US and around the world well.

We should probably just move on from this before it gets even more politically 
charged than it already has.

Thanks to Chuck for the post and to all of you who have carried on the well 
wishes. Have a great day and thanks for being a part of this list!

Cheers!

Cara

On Jul 5, 2018, at 6:38 AM, alia robinson <ali...@gmail.com> wrote:

if you think the US isn’t the laughing stock of the rest of the world because 
trump the incompetent is president you are the one who is uneducated!

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On 
Behalf Of Charlie Doremus
Sent: Thursday, 5 July 2018 9:10 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Happy Independence day USA!!!

Kindly keep your snide uneducated opinions to yourself this is not a forum for 
that stuff

Aloha,

Charlie 

> On Jul 4, 2018, at 11:07 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Isn't indipendance day the one where the aliens come down in the big ship and 
> try to take over?
> 
> Oh that's right he's already in charge.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On 
> Behalf Of regina alvarado
> Sent: Thursday, 5 July 2018 5:29 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Happy Independence day USA!!!
> 
> 
> Um, Mac, just a bit political for this group don't you think? However, agree 
> with you. Happy fourth to all,  and be kind to your fellow man and woman and 
> creatures too!
> Reggie and Lex
> 
> On Jul 4, 2018, at 12:20 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> American democracy is under siege from within, so celebrate this 4th while 
> you can. (smiles)
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of 
> spirituality.| --Carl Sagan
> 
>> On 7/4/2018 8:47 AM, CHUCK REICHEL wrote:
>> Ahoy Listers!
>> Happy Independence day USA!
>> celebrate America today
>> The Very Idea of America
>> The Fourth of July is about the very Idea of America.
>> We forget this sometimes. America wasn’t founded on a government, or a 
>> political system. All of that came much later.
>> It began with this beautiful idea, that our rights come from God. It began 
>> with this idea of a society based on these natural rights, on liberty, 
>> freedom, free enterprise, self-determination.
>> It is our duty to preserve this idea—this Great Experiment—and just as 
>> important, to preserve the spirit in which it was conceived.
>> That sacred pledge made on this day, they made it to each other. Everything 
>> depended on that. Everything after—every success, every sacrifice—came from 
>> that common cause.
>> Tocqueville thought this was the genius of our country. “Americans of all 
>> ages, all conditions, all minds constantly unite,” he wrote.
>> Every day, we unite in some small way. We forget this too.
>> We give back in our communities, we look for ways to solve problems, we look 
>> out for neighbors in need. Those things—civility and civil society—they are 
>> what connect us to one another. And by doing our part—whatever it may be—we 
>> keep this great experiment going.
>> So, celebrate America today. Fire up the grill. Light up the sky.
>> Charge up those Apple devices, and give thanks to GOD!
>> GOD Bless the USA! :)
>> Chuck
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