Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book

2007-05-18 Thread Helge Hafting
Stefano Franchi wrote: Yes. In my field---Humanities---this is the almost universal rule. The "academically serious publishers" (i.e. those you need to publish with to get tenure ;-) ) want complete control and use MS Word as an editing format which they will input, typically, into InDesign (

[SLOVED] Re: RTF export not present on Ubunutu (Lyx 1.4.3) [was: Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book]

2007-05-15 Thread Tim Michelsen
Tim Michelsen schrieb: I believe that there is also an option to export as rtf. Not in my 1.4.3on Ubuntu Lyx-Qt. What program is used for that export? Maybe I missed to install it... You need latex2rtf at http://latex2rtf.sourceforge.net/ I did install it and reconfigured it. But the RTF-Exp

RTF export not present on Ubunutu (Lyx 1.4.3) [was: Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book]

2007-05-14 Thread Tim Michelsen
I believe that there is also an option to export as rtf. Not in my 1.4.3on Ubuntu Lyx-Qt. What program is used for that export? Maybe I missed to install it... You need latex2rtf at http://latex2rtf.sourceforge.net/ I did install it and reconfigured it. But the RTF-Export is still not presen

Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book

2007-05-14 Thread Jean-Pierre Chretien
>>Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 00:57:03 +0300 >>From: Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org >>Subject: Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book >> >>On Sun, 13 May 2007 13:07:03 +0200 >>Tim Michelsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book

2007-05-13 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sun, 13 May 2007 13:07:03 +0200 Tim Michelsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > I still use Word for the final spell check of my documents. After the > LyX spell checker run and proof-reading everything, I just copy the > whole text into an empty word document and look for

Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book

2007-05-13 Thread Tim Michelsen
Hello, I still use Word for the final spell check of my documents. After the LyX spell checker run and proof-reading everything, I just copy the whole text into an empty word document and look for suspicious red and green lines. How to you do this? I can't copy anything from Lyx to another prog

Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book

2007-05-13 Thread Tim Michelsen
I would hope to see LyX concentrate on export to OpenDocumentFormat, for several reasons 1. MS is developing supporting ODF import, so RTF will not be necessary to get into Word, and the Sun ODF Plug-in for Microsoft Word is already available 2. ODF realy is a *documented* format, while RTF i

Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book

2007-05-11 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 08:48:07PM -0400, Alan G Isaac wrote: > As other comments have highlighted, even though WYSIWYG word > processors are generally cumbersome for writing, they can be > subsequently useful for editing and for interoperability. > > Some people need to get from LyX to Word. Th

Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book

2007-05-11 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 09:53:10AM +1200, Stefano Franchi wrote: > Yes. In my field---Humanities---this is the almost universal rule. The > "academically serious publishers" (i.e. those you need to publish with > to get tenure ;-) ) want complete control and use MS Word as an editing > format wh

Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book

2007-05-11 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Fri, 11 May 2007, José Matos wrote: On Friday 11 May 2007 09:16:49 Helge Hafting wrote: This is a problem.  High on the 1.6 wishlist is a "no language" language. LyX should then skip anything in this language when spellchecking. Apply this to computer code and such and be fine. . . Is thi

Re[2]: How to Spot a Word Processed Book

2007-05-11 Thread Alan G Isaac
As other comments have highlighted, even though WYSIWYG word processors are generally cumbersome for writing, they can be subsequently useful for editing and for interoperability. Some people need to get from LyX to Word. The core question seems to be whether to - write LyX directly to RTF, or

Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book

2007-05-11 Thread Stefano Franchi
On 10 May, 2007, at 6:45 AM, Steve Litt wrote: On Wednesday 09 May 2007 14:23, Rich Shepard wrote: On Wed, 9 May 2007, Steve Litt wrote: Interesting article: How to Spot a Word Processed Book What jumps out at me when I look at a processed word book is the uneven spacing between words

Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book

2007-05-11 Thread José Matos
On Friday 11 May 2007 09:16:49 Helge Hafting wrote: > This is a problem.  High on the 1.6 wishlist is a "no language" > language. LyX should then skip anything in this language > when spellchecking. Apply this to computer code and such > and be fine. . . Is this request posted somewhere? This

Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book

2007-05-11 Thread Micha Feigin
On Fri, 11 May 2007 09:45:58 +0200 Daniel Lohmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tim Michelsen wrote: > > > > Very good point. I often do get the comment that I should run the spell > > checker. But it takes the same amount of time to check with the Lyx > > spell checker and train it all the techn

Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book

2007-05-11 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Tim Michelsen wrote: Another unique selling point of Word is the language checker (spell and grammar), which is an order of magnitude better than aspell, ispell and everything else I have seen so far. For a publisher this might be a strong argument, as submitted documents already contain signi

Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book

2007-05-11 Thread Daniel Lohmann
Helge Hafting wrote: > Daniel Lohmann wrote: >> Tim Michelsen wrote: >> >>> Very good point. I often do get the comment that I should run the spell >>> checker. But it takes the same amount of time to check with the Lyx >>> spell checker and train it all the technical terms as >>> printing and co

Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book

2007-05-11 Thread Helge Hafting
Daniel Lohmann wrote: Tim Michelsen wrote: Very good point. I often do get the comment that I should run the spell checker. But it takes the same amount of time to check with the Lyx spell checker and train it all the technical terms as printing and correcting it manually. Especially

Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book

2007-05-11 Thread Daniel Lohmann
Tim Michelsen wrote: > > Very good point. I often do get the comment that I should run the spell > checker. But it takes the same amount of time to check with the Lyx > spell checker and train it all the technical terms as > printing and correcting it manually. Especially if you write a lot of c

Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book

2007-05-10 Thread Niklas Huldén
Julio Rojas wrote: Bad thing most of us work in Windows. Hope someday PDF's can be commented by default, or at least that you don't need Acrobat Professional to make them able for comments. Windoes users can also use Arenable http://sourceforge.net/projects/arenable/ On 5/10/07, Russell Dav

Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book

2007-05-10 Thread Tim Michelsen
Another unique selling point of Word is the language checker (spell and grammar), which is an order of magnitude better than aspell, ispell and everything else I have seen so far. For a publisher this might be a strong argument, as submitted documents already contain significantly fewer languag

Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book

2007-05-10 Thread Daniel Lohmann
Russell Davie wrote: > Annotating pdf? no excuses now! > Well, the tools to annotate PDFs -- including Acrobat -- are quite clumsy. And of course there is a significant difference between editing (in the sense of performing visible changes to the document, each of which can later be approved or

Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book

2007-05-10 Thread Julio Rojas
Thanks for the tip. I think I'll install in on my tutor's computer ASAP!!! :D On 5/10/07, Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Julio Rojas wrote: > Bad thing most of us work in Windows. Hope someday PDF's can be > commented by default, or at least that you don't need Acrobat > Profession

Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book

2007-05-10 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Julio Rojas wrote: Bad thing most of us work in Windows. Hope someday PDF's can be commented by default, or at least that you don't need Acrobat Professional to make them able for comments. Last version of foxit supports annotation for free. Some other programs can do that too. Acrobat is not

Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book

2007-05-10 Thread Russell Davie
On Thu, 10 May 2007 15:10:12 +0200 "Julio Rojas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bad thing most of us work in Windows. Hope someday PDF's can be > commented by default, or at least that you don't need Acrobat > Professional to make them able for comments. Virtualize! no need to get Adobe, just run

Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book

2007-05-10 Thread Steve Litt
On Thursday 10 May 2007 07:40, William Adams wrote: > > As regards why publishers choose the tools they do, well it's > complicated. I wrote up my take on it on comp.text.tex a while back: > > http://groups.google.com/group/comp.text.tex/msg/36401bceced0ee9a Very interesting analogy. I'd say for

Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book

2007-05-10 Thread Steve Litt
On Thursday 10 May 2007 07:20, Helge Hafting wrote: > > Or alternatively, they could supply a latex class seeing that tex > probably is one of the larger "minority" formats. Might be useful > if they have enough people wanting to use tex. This generally works for > lyx users too. I think this w

Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book

2007-05-10 Thread Julio Rojas
Bad thing most of us work in Windows. Hope someday PDF's can be commented by default, or at least that you don't need Acrobat Professional to make them able for comments. On 5/10/07, Russell Davie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 10 May 2007 08:24:34 +0200 "Julio Rojas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro

Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book

2007-05-10 Thread Russell Davie
On Thu, 10 May 2007 08:24:34 +0200 "Julio Rojas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What I'm really amazed of, is the quantity of technical and > engineering congresses that "ask" the authors to submit their papers > is Word format and don't have (and don't support) LaTeX styles. > > I'm doing some eva

Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book

2007-05-10 Thread William Adams
On May 10, 2007, at 7:31 AM, Daniel Lohmann wrote: Rich Shepard wrote: [...] When I wrote Tim O'Reilly to ask why they have that policy he never responded. I guess they do it for pragmatic reasons. It is just the "editor" that is most common among writers - and documents are most probably

Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book

2007-05-10 Thread Daniel Lohmann
Rich Shepard wrote: > [...] > When I wrote Tim O'Reilly to ask why they have that policy he > never responded. > I guess they do it for pragmatic reasons. It is just the "editor" that is most common among writers - and documents are most probably converted into an in-house format for the types

Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book

2007-05-10 Thread Helge Hafting
Steve Litt wrote: On Wednesday 09 May 2007 14:23, Rich Shepard wrote: On Wed, 9 May 2007, Steve Litt wrote: Interesting article: How to Spot a Word Processed Book What jumps out at me when I look at a processed word book is the uneven spacing between words on each line. The

Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book

2007-05-09 Thread Julio Rojas
What I'm really amazed of, is the quantity of technical and engineering congresses that "ask" the authors to submit their papers is Word format and don't have (and don't support) LaTeX styles. I'm doing some evangelism with my friends that are working on their PhD's to switch to LyX/LaTeX. They i

Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book

2007-05-09 Thread David L. Johnson
Steve Litt wrote: Big publishers like O'Reilly (or in the case of my Samba Unleashed, Sams) take complete control of the book's layout. Working with a mainstream publisher is the ultimate WYSIWYM experience -- you as the author are responsible only for content. Your publisher gives you a list

Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book

2007-05-09 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 9 May 2007, Steve Litt wrote: Big publishers like O'Reilly (or in the case of my Samba Unleashed, Sams) take complete control of the book's layout. Working with a mainstream publisher is the ultimate WYSIWYM experience -- you as the author are responsible only for content. Your publisher

Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book

2007-05-09 Thread Steve Litt
On Wednesday 09 May 2007 14:23, Rich Shepard wrote: > On Wed, 9 May 2007, Steve Litt wrote: > > Interesting article: > > How to Spot a Word Processed Book > >What jumps out at me when I look at a processed word book is the uneven > spacing between words on each l

Re: How to Spot a Word Processed Book

2007-05-09 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 9 May 2007, Steve Litt wrote: Interesting article: How to Spot a Word Processed Book What jumps out at me when I look at a processed word book is the uneven spacing between words on each line. The interletter and interword spacing on a typeset page is much more subtle and the white

How to Spot a Word Processed Book

2007-05-09 Thread Steve Litt
Interesting article: How to Spot a Word Processed Book http://www.midwestbookreview.com/bookbiz/advice/wordproc.htm Did I ever mention how glad I am that you all created LyX? Thank you! SteveT Steve Litt Author: Universal Troubleshooting Process books and courseware http