On Thu, 10 May 2007 15:10:12 +0200 "Julio Rojas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bad thing most of us work in Windows. Hope someday PDF's can be > commented by default, or at least that you don't need Acrobat > Professional to make them able for comments. Virtualize! no need to get Adobe, just run a flavour of *nix in your *doz box and enjoy annotating pdf via vmware.... "Run multiple operating systems on the same PC – with 19 flavors of Windows and 26 flavors of Linux/UNIX, Workstation has the broadest OS selection to choose from" http://info.vmware.com/content/GLP_VMwareWkstn?urlcode=Google_Products_Workstation&gclid=CPX_w-zpg4wCFQurhgod-D39wQ weekends coming up....have fun! - R > > On 5/10/07, Russell Davie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 10 May 2007 08:24:34 +0200 > > "Julio Rojas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > What I'm really amazed of, is the quantity of technical and > > > engineering congresses that "ask" the authors to submit their papers > > > is Word format and don't have (and don't support) LaTeX styles. > > > > > > I'm doing some evangelism with my friends that are working on their > > > PhD's to switch to LyX/LaTeX. They instantly love the typesetting, the > > > styles and the formula typing. The problem is not only congresses > > > their making articles for, but their own tutors don't work and never > > > have worked with LaTeX. That by itself, stop them in their effort. If > > > at least LyX/LaTeX generated PDF's could be commented by default (or > > > using a switch), their switch would be smoother. > > > > I proof read and commented a friend's thesis that they wrote in latex and > > which was sent to me as pdf or ps. > > This used flpsed which places a comment into the a ps or pdf. Only > > one series of comments can be done. > > Later I was able to check to comments using psdiff. > > It all worked perfectly. There was a very tight time schedule and I was > > able to easily submit the proofs to the author who went to submit the > > final version on time. > > > > flpsed: http://www.ecademix.com/JohannesHofmann/flpsed.html > > psdiff: http://www.intermemory.org/pny/software/psdiff/main.html > > I used Linux and the flsped is available as a Ubuntu deb package. > > > > Annotating pdf? no excuses now! > > > > cheers > > > > Russell > > > > > > > > On 5/9/07, David L. Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Steve Litt wrote: > > > > > > > > > Big publishers like O'Reilly (or in the case of my Samba Unleashed, > > > > > Sams) take > > > > > complete control of the book's layout. Working with a mainstream > > > > > publisher is > > > > > the ultimate WYSIWYM experience -- you as the author are responsible > > > > > only for > > > > > content. Your publisher gives you a list of styles you may (and must) > > > > > use and > > > > > a stylesheet telling how and when to use them. You do that, and the > > > > > publisher > > > > > takes care of the rest. > > > > > > > > > > If the publisher were to accept a LyX document (or LaTeX), they'd > > > > > either need > > > > > to accept the author's layout (bad idea when you publish a uniform > > > > > series > > > > > like Unleashed or Nutshell), or they'd need to translate back into MS > > > > > Word > > > > > with appropriate styles. > > > > > > > > Not at all. Some publishers (granted, all I know about are math > > > > journals, which form a biased and tiny subset of publishers) simply > > > > require you to use their specific TeX style files --- which is easy to > > > > do in TeX, and not so bad in LyX either, in fact, some of the Springer > > > > styles (kluwer) are already included in LyX. No reason to translate > > > > into Word. Also, going from one TeX style to another is far easier than > > > > trying to do the same thing in Word. > > > > > > > > > > Another reason they use MS Word is because MS Word has facilities to > > > > > track > > > > > changes, so the chapter documents that keep getting sent back and > > > > > forth > > > > > contain a complete history of queries, reponses and changes. > > > > > > > > This is also easy to do in LyX/TeX, but it is also dangerous to keep > > > > such information in a document by default. It can be very embarrassing, > > > > say, in a job offer letter, to be able to see what the original salary > > > > offer was, before upper management cut it by 25%. This may be less of a > > > > problem in this case, but still unwanted information can be transmitted. > > > > > > > > > > Of course, one could ask "why not make LyX the official > > > > > "wordprocessor" > > > > > instead of MS Word, and supply a LyX layout instead of a MS Word style > > > > > template. The answer is simply that it's very hard to find willing and > > > > > qualified authors for the amount mainstream publishers are willing to > > > > > pay, > > > > > and it would be far easier to get the few LyX/LaTeX users to switch > > > > > to MS > > > > > Word than to get the multitudes of MS Word users to switch to LyX, > > > > > which many > > > > > haven't heard of, don't have, and don't know how to install. > > > > > > > > This should be less of a concern for the likes of O'Reilly, who really > > > > do support open source, the antithesis of MS practice. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > David L. Johnson > > > > > > > > Let's be straight here. If we find something we can't understand > > > > we like to call it something you can't understand, > > > > or indeed even pronounce. -- Douglas Adams > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > Julio Rojas > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -- > > Please, if possible, don't send me MS Word or Powerpoint attachments. > > Send plain text, rich text format, html, or pdf instead. > > Why? See: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/sylvester-response.html > > > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------- > Julio Rojas > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please, if possible, don't send me MS Word or Powerpoint attachments. Send plain text, rich text format, html, or pdf instead. Why? See: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/sylvester-response.html
