Re: popup IPA toolbar

2018-03-19 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 19/03/2018 à 12:09, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit : The menu is inserting an inset, it does not insert any IPA character (that is done via the toolbar or the keyboard [if you prefer IPA shortcuts] or the Symbols dialog or via Paste). IOW we could certainly force the toolbar to check whether the

Re: popup IPA toolbar

2018-03-19 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Montag, den 19.03.2018, 12:06 +0100 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller: > The toolbar actually always does the same thing: Inserting an IPA > character. _Where_ this character is inserted, is open (but this is > also the case for any other toolbar). > > The menu is inserting an inset, it does not inser

Re: popup IPA toolbar

2018-03-19 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Montag, den 19.03.2018, 11:55 +0100 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > While I am not a IPA user at all, this strikes me as a very weird > thing > to do. How is the user supposed to know that the toolbar and the menu > do > different things? The toolbar actually always does the same thing: Inser

Re: popup IPA toolbar

2018-03-19 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 14/03/2018 à 16:35, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit : 2018-03-14 16:20 GMT+01:00 mike >: You are absolutely right.  I missed that sorry.  Thank you very much for your answer.  I'm in heaven now. What this doesn't do, though, is to insert an IPA "inset" (which

Re: popup IPA toolbar

2018-03-15 Thread mike
On 14/03/2018 18:59, mike wrote: On 14/03/2018 18:45, Richard Heck wrote: On 03/14/2018 01:19 PM, mike wrote: On 14/03/2018 16:55, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: 2018-03-14 17:43 GMT+01:00 mike >: Is there anything else I need to know on this general topic beca

Re: popup IPA toolbar

2018-03-15 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am 14.03.2018 6:19 nachm. schrieb "mike" Thank you very very much. This is all totally brilliant. Is this all documented in one place? It should be. I did look at the manual and the wiki but if the content of today's discussion is all in one place in either of them I missed it which is entirel

Re: popup IPA toolbar

2018-03-14 Thread mike
On 14/03/2018 18:45, Richard Heck wrote: On 03/14/2018 01:19 PM, mike wrote: On 14/03/2018 16:55, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: 2018-03-14 17:43 GMT+01:00 mike >: Is there anything else I need to know on this general topic because I intend to do some serious wo

Re: popup IPA toolbar

2018-03-14 Thread Richard Heck
On 03/14/2018 01:19 PM, mike wrote: > On 14/03/2018 16:55, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: >> 2018-03-14 17:43 GMT+01:00 mike > >: >> >> Is there anything else I need to know on this general topic >> because I intend to do some serious work using all this? >> >> >> If

Re: popup IPA toolbar

2018-03-14 Thread mike
On 14/03/2018 16:55, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: 2018-03-14 17:43 GMT+01:00 mike >: Is there anything else I need to know on this general topic because I intend to do some serious work using all this? If you mean work as in "using the feature", then no. I sup

Re: popup IPA toolbar

2018-03-14 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2018-03-14 17:43 GMT+01:00 mike : > Is there anything else I need to know on this general topic because I > intend to do some serious work using all this? > If you mean work as in "using the feature", then no. I suppose you have read Help > Specific Manuals > Linguistics, and you are aware of the

Re: popup IPA toolbar

2018-03-14 Thread mike
On 14/03/2018 16:40, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: 2018-03-14 17:36 GMT+01:00 mike >: So if I generate the inset and then use the toolbar to insert the symbols (not the popup one) will that still give me improved output? Correct. It's the same toolbar. Jürgen

Re: popup IPA toolbar

2018-03-14 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2018-03-14 17:36 GMT+01:00 mike : > So if I generate the inset and then use the toolbar to insert the symbols > (not the popup one) will that still give me improved output? > Correct. It's the same toolbar. Jürgen PS. Note that you can easily bind the function "ipa-insert" to a key to get the i

Re: popup IPA toolbar

2018-03-14 Thread mike
On 14/03/2018 16:19, mike wrote: On 14/03/2018 16:09, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: 2018-03-14 16:57 GMT+01:00 mike >: May I ask why going thru the toolbar directly doesn't do that but going thru Special Characters does?  I assume the distinction is intentio

Re: popup IPA toolbar

2018-03-14 Thread mike
On 14/03/2018 16:09, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: 2018-03-14 16:57 GMT+01:00 mike >: May I ask why going thru the toolbar directly doesn't do that but going thru Special Characters does?  I assume the distinction is intentional.  AFAICT the toolbar elements

Re: popup IPA toolbar

2018-03-14 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2018-03-14 16:57 GMT+01:00 mike : > May I ask why going thru the toolbar directly doesn't do that but going > thru Special Characters does? I assume the distinction is intentional. > AFAICT the toolbar elements are identical either way but please tell me if > I'm wrong. > The toolbar just holds t

Re: popup IPA toolbar

2018-03-14 Thread mike
On 14/03/2018 15:35, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: 2018-03-14 16:20 GMT+01:00 mike >: You are absolutely right.  I missed that sorry.  Thank you very much for your answer.  I'm in heaven now. What this doesn't do, though, is to insert an IPA "inset" (which hap

Re: popup IPA toolbar

2018-03-14 Thread mike
On 14/03/2018 15:35, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: 2018-03-14 16:20 GMT+01:00 mike >: You are absolutely right.  I missed that sorry.  Thank you very much for your answer.  I'm in heaven now. What this doesn't do, though, is to insert an IPA "inset" (which hap

Re: popup IPA toolbar

2018-03-14 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2018-03-14 16:20 GMT+01:00 mike : > You are absolutely right. I missed that sorry. Thank you very much for > your answer. I'm in heaven now. > What this doesn't do, though, is to insert an IPA "inset" (which happens when you go via Special Characters). This conforms to \textipa{...} in the ou

Re: popup IPA toolbar

2018-03-14 Thread mike
On 14/03/2018 15:00, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: 2018-03-14 15:51 GMT+01:00 mike: For my purposes the popup IPA toolbar is ideal allowing me to select an IPA character and to optionally add diacritics to it.It seems to me that the developers have done all the work required to get

Re: popup IPA toolbar

2018-03-14 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2018-03-14 15:51 GMT+01:00 mike: > For my purposes the popup IPA toolbar is ideal allowing me to select an > IPA character and to optionally add diacritics to it. It seems to me > that the developers have done all the work required to get the popup IPA > toolbar but they haven'

popup IPA toolbar

2018-03-14 Thread mike
ave toggled on by default.  It acts just like the two math toolbars. For my purposes the popup IPA toolbar is ideal allowing me to select an IPA character and to optionally add diacritics to it.It seems to me that the developers have done all the work required to get the popup IPA toolbar but t