Re: Qt vs. Xforms dialogs; lots of differences

2002-08-13 Thread Rob Lahaye
Allan Rae wrote: > > Rob, what you have to understand is that John is obsessed with > complying with policies/directives/suggestions of what makes "Good > UI." Hence the number of postings and arguements in the last few > months in which John has provided URLs for various "Good UI" documents > o

Re: Qt vs. Xforms dialogs; lots of differences

2002-08-13 Thread Allan Rae
On Mon, 12 Aug 2002, Rob Lahaye wrote: > John Levon wrote: [...] > > Rob wrote: > >>The frontend's look&feel may be different, but items should be in exactly > >>the same dialog, > > > > Like I said, it's up to the xforms people to play catch up. > > Well, do the xforms people agree? Is Qt indeed

Re: Qt vs. Xforms dialogs; lots of differences

2002-08-12 Thread John Levon
On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 11:55:36AM +0900, Rob Lahaye wrote: > >I don't see these as problems. > > In my opinion this breaks the idea of GUII. Au contraire, this has been the intention of LyX's GUII work for a very long time. We are *not* going to go down the XUL path ;) > I'll report whenever

Re: Qt vs. Xforms dialogs; lots of differences

2002-08-12 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Rob" == Rob Lahaye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Like I said, it's up to the xforms people to play catch up. Rob> Well, do the xforms people agree? Is Qt indeed the UI default Rob> going-to-be and all other frontends should follow the Qt layout. Rob> Or is the underlying plan to abandon

Re: Qt vs. Xforms dialogs; lots of differences

2002-08-11 Thread Rob Lahaye
John Levon wrote: > On Sun, Aug 11, 2002 at 06:01:37PM +0900, Rob Lahaye wrote: > >> *) 4 tabs instead of 5 >> *) items are rearranged to different locations. > > > I don't see these as problems. In my opinion this breaks the idea of GUII. >> *) etc. etc. > > please elaborate ;) Okay.

Re: Qt vs. Xforms dialogs; lots of differences

2002-08-11 Thread John Levon
On Sun, Aug 11, 2002 at 06:01:37PM +0900, Rob Lahaye wrote: > First of all: am I right that Qt is still in the state of "under > construction", This is right. > implying we should not scrutinize the details too much? This is wrong. Please report ANY problems you have. I/Edwin may know about t

Re: Qt vs. Xforms dialogs; lots of differences

2002-08-11 Thread Rob Lahaye
John Levon wrote: > On Sat, Aug 10, 2002 at 09:22:06AM +0900, Rob Lahaye wrote: > >>This UI layout definitely needs to be equalized eventually! > > > This is up to the xforms people to do. Qt makes several things a LOT > easier to do. If you spot usability problems with the Qt dialogs, > please

Re: Qt vs. Xforms dialogs; lots of differences

2002-08-09 Thread Michael Koziarski
On Sat, Aug 10, 2002 at 09:22:06AM +0900 or thereabouts, Rob Lahaye wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm quite suprised how much the Qt dialogs differ from the Xform > ones. I don't mean the way they look, but their contents. Some Qt > dialogs have a totally different layout and arrangement of items. > > Thi

Re: Qt vs. Xforms dialogs; lots of differences

2002-08-09 Thread John Levon
On Sat, Aug 10, 2002 at 09:22:06AM +0900, Rob Lahaye wrote: > This should be avoided. Explaining how to use LyX will be unnecessarily > complicated: > if you use Xforms, do blablabla, however, in Qt you should do. > > This UI layout definitely needs to be equalized eventually! This is up t