On Mon, 12 Aug 2002, Rob Lahaye wrote:

> John Levon wrote:
[...]
> > Rob wrote:
> >>The frontend's look&feel may be different, but items should be in exactly
> >>the same dialog,
> >
> > Like I said, it's up to the xforms people to play catch up.
>
> Well, do the xforms people agree? Is Qt indeed the UI default going-to-be and all
> other frontends should follow the Qt layout. Or is the underlying plan to abandon
> Xforms completely as soon as Qt is fully implemented?

Rob, what you have to understand is that John is obsessed with
complying with policies/directives/suggestions of what makes "Good
UI."  Hence the number of postings and arguements in the last few
months in which John has provided URLs for various "Good UI" documents
on the web.

As such, John, as one of main Qt porters, is trying to ensure that
that port gets the best possible, friendliest, coherent, "standard"
and whatever else "Good UI" he can create.  This is a Good Thing.

As one of the developers responsible for the much of look and feel of
the XForms reference port I can safely say that I'm glad it's him and
not me.  The XForms port works for me but I'm into "Bad UI" so if
getting a better interface for XForms simply means copying the Qt
layout for 90% of the stuff and arguing about the remaining 10% then
I'd be happy "to play catch up".

After all we'd only be catching up to better layout not necessarily
functionality.

As for which will be the default or if XForms will be abandoned only
time, installed libraries, `./configure` options and user/developer
interest will tell.


For some history of why most of the developers are interested in GUII
and why the frontends are allowed (even encouraged) to be different
see:
        http://www.lyx.org/news/20001220.php3#item2

This is the now famous "GUII Debate" article.

Allan. (ARRae)

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