Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-05-03 Thread Jose' Matos
On Monday 01 May 2006 13:09, Andre Poenitz wrote: > On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 11:35:32PM +0100, Jose' Matos wrote: > > PS: FWIW, Susana completed with success her PhD. :-) > > So you've finally got one in the family. Or did I miss anything? I hope to do the same next September/October. :-) So

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-05-03 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 11:35:32PM +0100, Jose' Matos wrote: > PS: FWIW, Susana completed with success her PhD. :-) So you've finally got one in the family. Or did I miss anything? Andre'

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-30 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 06:42:28PM +0200, Georg Baum wrote: > Am Freitag, 28. April 2006 17:35 schrieb Enrico Forestieri: > > On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 04:52:02PM +0200, Georg Baum wrote: > > > - send patches against 1.4 (step by step, one fix = one patch) > > > > I was asked to send patches for tr

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-30 Thread Georg Baum
Am Samstag, 29. April 2006 15:27 schrieb Enrico Forestieri: > Right. But you are not frustrated by someone who says that you are > also wasting his time, instead you get gratitude and, in turn, this > is rewarding for you. Who said you were waisting his time? I never did that. I said that I have

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-30 Thread Georg Baum
Am Freitag, 28. April 2006 17:35 schrieb Enrico Forestieri: > On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 04:52:02PM +0200, Georg Baum wrote: > > - send patches against 1.4 (step by step, one fix = one patch) > > I was asked to send patches for trunk. Please, make your mind. That is true. First comes trunk, then 1.4

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-30 Thread Georg Baum
Am Freitag, 28. April 2006 17:12 schrieb Angus Leeming: > I used to lurve fights on Fridays. Please be ruder! And then you write 'please'? That won't work :-) (no friday anymore). BTW what is lurve? I only know lure. Georg

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-30 Thread Georg Baum
Am Freitag, 28. April 2006 17:07 schrieb Bo Peng: > I am still wondering why people do not like my local-layout-cls > patch(es). Forcing users to put .layout and .cls in their respective > places, using that lengthy and troublesome procedure, is *not* nice. > Even latex allows local .cls file! II

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-29 Thread Jose' Matos
On Saturday 29 April 2006 16:25, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > > You mean nobody explained you? I understand your reaction then. I've > read a bit the archive and here is my interpretation: In the old old > days when men were men and lyx was a pioneer project, there were huge > flame wars among develo

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-29 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 05:25:44PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > Enrico Forestieri a écrit : > > On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 04:36:31PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > > > >> It was friday Enrico, Friday! > > > > Please, explain this Friday thing. In my culture Friday is like > > Saturday, or

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-29 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Enrico Forestieri a écrit : On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 04:36:31PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: It was friday Enrico, Friday! Please, explain this Friday thing. In my culture Friday is like Saturday, or Monday, or... (sorry for being so stupid). You mean nobody explained you? I understand yo

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-29 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 04:36:31PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > It was friday Enrico, Friday! Please, explain this Friday thing. In my culture Friday is like Saturday, or Monday, or... (sorry for being so stupid). -- Enrico

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-29 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Enrico Forestieri a écrit : On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 03:21:13PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Enrico Forestieri a écrit : On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 02:34:43PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Michael Gerz a écrit : Gentlemen, I think I have to give some comments on the heated 1.4 vs. 1.5 dis

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-29 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 03:21:13PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > Enrico Forestieri a écrit : > > On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 02:34:43PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > > > >> Michael Gerz a écrit : > >>> Gentlemen, > >>> > >>> I think I have to give some comments on the heated 1.4 vs. 1.5 discu

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-29 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 10:42:34AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Enrico" == Enrico Forestieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Enrico> It's a benefit/cost ratio, Jean-Marc. I gain nothing in having > Enrico> my patches applied. I can simply patch my version and have a > Enrico> very

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-29 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Enrico Forestieri a écrit : On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 02:34:43PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Michael Gerz a écrit : Gentlemen, I think I have to give some comments on the heated 1.4 vs. 1.5 discussion. I've hoped that it would be more heated... like it should be for a decent friday flame w

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-29 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 02:34:43PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > Michael Gerz a écrit : > > Gentlemen, > > > > I think I have to give some comments on the heated 1.4 vs. 1.5 discussion. > > I've hoped that it would be more heated... like it should be for a > decent friday flame war but I di

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-29 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Michael Gerz a écrit : Gentlemen, I think I have to give some comments on the heated 1.4 vs. 1.5 discussion. I've hoped that it would be more heated... like it should be for a decent friday flame war but I did not succeed. Except for Enrico and Georg who managed to write one or two bad words

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-29 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Enrico" == Enrico Forestieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Enrico> It's a benefit/cost ratio, Jean-Marc. I gain nothing in having Enrico> my patches applied. I can simply patch my version and have a Enrico> very high value for that ratio. This may seem selfish Enrico> behaviour but gives me m

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Michael Gerz
Gentlemen, I think I have to give some comments on the heated 1.4 vs. 1.5 discussion. I understand that everybody wants to have his favourite feature available as soon as possible. However, we are obliged to provide the LyX users with a series of stable versions at the same time. If someone w

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Angus Leeming
Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I used to lurve fights on Fridays. Please be ruder! > I am trying to revive the tradition but nobody follows... Do you think I > should be even ruder? Yeah. Tell 'em like it is!

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 03:12:57PM +, Angus Leeming wrote: > Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> So it is broken and will stay broken? It is not that important, after > >> all this simply avoids an empty "TeX Information", but I am really > >> annoyed that seemingly everything which is

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 06:38:04PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > Enrico Forestieri a écrit : > >On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 05:48:24PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > > > >>Please ask for that damn svn access! > > > >Abdel, > > > >I am not a programmer but a "power user" (using Windows parliance)

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 05:54:35PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Enrico" == Enrico Forestieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Enrico> Here is the problem. Nobody cares about cygwin, ergo it is not > Enrico> well accepted. I mean, you have to do something for nothing, I > Enrico> woul

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Enrico Forestieri a écrit : On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 05:48:24PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Please ask for that damn svn access! Abdel, I am not a programmer but a "power user" (using Windows parliance), and my contribution to LyX would be poor. bla bla bla... The native Windows port

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 05:48:24PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > Please ask for that damn svn access! Abdel, I am not a programmer but a "power user" (using Windows parliance), and my contribution to LyX would be poor. The native Windows port had screwed up the cygwin target and nobody care

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Angus Leeming a écrit : Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: So it is broken and will stay broken? It is not that important, after all this simply avoids an empty "TeX Information", but I am really annoyed that seemingly everything which is cygwin related is not well accepted. Bullshit. In

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Bo" == Bo Peng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I agree that getting some of the changes in was painful, but I >> think the quality of the patches improved. Bo> I agree with both, taking the recent example of Bo> Document->compressed. If I can get feedbacks at the current speed, Bo> I have n

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Bo Peng
I agree that getting some of the changes in was painful, but I think the quality of the patches improved. I agree with both, taking the recent example of Document->compressed. If I can get feedbacks at the current speed, I have no complain. That does not have to mean I will invest time on backpo

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Enrico" == Enrico Forestieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Enrico> Here is the problem. Nobody cares about cygwin, ergo it is not Enrico> well accepted. I mean, you have to do something for nothing, I Enrico> would not well accept it, too. It is not that we do not _care_. It is just that, si

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Enrico Forestieri a écrit : On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 04:52:02PM +0200, Georg Baum wrote: - explain why it is needed - explain how well it is tested - explain potential risks (or the lack thereof) - ask for inclusion I think I always did so. - commit it (yourself) if OK Cannot do it. Enric

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 04:52:02PM +0200, Georg Baum wrote: > Enrico Forestieri wrote: > > > So it is broken and will stay broken? It is not that important, after > > all this simply avoids an empty "TeX Information", but I am really > > annoyed that seemingly everything which is cygwin related is

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Bo Peng a écrit : I am sure that you will get more positive feedback if you follow this procedure. I really was interested in pushing some of my patches in, because I think they are important, if not essential, and other people can benefit from them. However, I feel less and less motivated in d

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Angus Leeming
Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> So it is broken and will stay broken? It is not that important, after >> all this simply avoids an empty "TeX Information", but I am really >> annoyed that seemingly everything which is cygwin related is not >> well accepted. > Bullshit. In my case I don't

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Bo Peng
I am sure that you will get more positive feedback if you follow this procedure. I really was interested in pushing some of my patches in, because I think they are important, if not essential, and other people can benefit from them. However, I feel less and less motivated in doing so. I am using

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Georg" == Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Georg> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> Also, (now that I tried it in 1.5) wouldn't it be more readable by >> trying to put the arrows on the left and bottom border of the >> inset? Georg> I did not increase the area covered by the phantom ins

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Georg Baum
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Also, (now that I tried it in 1.5) wouldn't it be more readable by > trying to put the arrows on the left and bottom border of the inset? I did not increase the area covered by the phantom inset in comparison to the contents on purpose, otherwise you would not get co

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Georg Baum
Enrico Forestieri wrote: > So it is broken and will stay broken? It is not that important, after > all this simply avoids an empty "TeX Information", but I am really > annoyed that seemingly everything which is cygwin related is not > well accepted. Bullshit. In my case I don't have the energy no

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 02:53:08PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > r13704 - EF - Account for Cygwin teTeX on Windows > > I'd say no. So it is broken and will stay broken? It is not that important, after all this simply avoids an empty "TeX Information", but I am really annoyed that seemin

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Georg" == Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Georg> That one is really easy indeed (only two new files and a couple Georg> of changed lines), and the most important thing is that it is Georg> self contained (if there should be a bug only phantom stuff Georg> will be affected). I'll prep

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Georg Baum
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> "Michael" == Michael Gerz >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > r13700 - GB - Make MathBigInset working > > I'd say no. I agree, because it is a) not finished yet and b) involves changes at central places that may have side effects. > There is also a phant

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Michael" == Michael Gerz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Michael> Hi Jean-Marc, here comes an updated list of potential 1.4.X Michael> patches. Michael> I guess that not all of them make sense for 1.4.X. Guys, Michael> please let me know if some revision can be removed from the Michael> list.

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-25 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Michael Gerz wrote: > Hi Jean-Marc, > > here comes an updated list of potential 1.4.X patches. Yes, mine (JS) should go in in any case (IMHO). Jürgen