On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 06:42:28PM +0200, Georg Baum wrote:

> Am Freitag, 28. April 2006 17:35 schrieb Enrico Forestieri:
> > On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 04:52:02PM +0200, Georg Baum wrote:
> > > - send patches against 1.4 (step by step, one fix = one patch)
> > 
> > I was asked to send patches for trunk. Please, make your mind.
> 
> That is true. First comes trunk, then 1.4.

I have no problem to provide patches for both. BTW I always test
them on both trunk and 1.4 to see if they apply unmodified to both.
Not only, I also try compiling on Solaris to check that they break
nothing in a non-cygwin environment. I could do it also on Debian,
but that's installed on another partition of my laptop and would
be too cumbersome.

All in all, I send a patch only after testing such that to be sure
that no obious bug is introduced. You know, it takes a life to
build a reputation and one minute to lose it.

> > > - explain why it is needed
> > > - explain how well it is tested
> > > - explain potential risks (or the lack thereof)
> > > - ask for inclusion
> > 
> > I think I always did so.
> 
> Yes, for trunk.
> 
> > > - commit it (yourself) if OK
> > 
> > Cannot do it.
> 
> But that is not set in stone. BTW I got commit access because André was 
> tired to put my tex2lyx fixes in.

I am neither a developer nor proficient in C++, so I don't think that I
can give a significant contribution to LyX.

> > > I am sure that you will get more positive feedback if you follow this
> > > procedure. Obviously nobody has enough time, therefore everybody does 
> what
> > > he cares about most.
> > 
> > Here is the problem. Nobody cares about cygwin, ergo it is not well 
> accepted.
> 
> If you mean by not well accepted that nobody besides you (and Abdel and Bo 
> sometimes) is actively trying to fix it, then I agree. If you mean that 
> cygwin fixes are ignored although you do your share of the work then I 
> don't agree. After all several fixes made it into 1.5.

It is a problem conveying a concept when you don't speak in your
mother tongue, but you got it. I meant right that, ie, if nobody of
you can appreciate or take advantage of a fix, it simply is a waste
of time. I understand that.

> > I understand you and I don't want to be a PITA, so I think that the only
> > solution is that I should give up trying to have my patches applied
> > to the official sources.
> 
> Maybe it was not such a good idea of mine to post that friday-language 
> post one minute before going away, but I thought that everybody knew 
> about that rule. Anyway, since it has now been explained I hope you did 
> not take any offense.

Yep, I didn't know that. I had only got that on Friday no smileys
could be used (for a misterious reason to me). Anyway, I didn't take
any offense. I think that it also happened to me to say something
above the lines, with the aggravating circumstance that perhaps it
was not on Friday ;-)

-- 
Enrico

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