Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-05-03 Thread Jose' Matos
On Monday 01 May 2006 13:09, Andre Poenitz wrote: > On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 11:35:32PM +0100, Jose' Matos wrote: > > PS: FWIW, Susana completed with success her PhD. :-) > > So you've finally got one in the family. Or did I miss anything? I hope to do the same next September/October. :-) So

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-05-03 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 11:35:32PM +0100, Jose' Matos wrote: > PS: FWIW, Susana completed with success her PhD. :-) So you've finally got one in the family. Or did I miss anything? Andre'

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-30 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 06:42:28PM +0200, Georg Baum wrote: > Am Freitag, 28. April 2006 17:35 schrieb Enrico Forestieri: > > On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 04:52:02PM +0200, Georg Baum wrote: > > > - send patches against 1.4 (step by step, one fix = one patch) > > > > I was asked to send patches for tr

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-30 Thread Georg Baum
Am Samstag, 29. April 2006 15:27 schrieb Enrico Forestieri: > Right. But you are not frustrated by someone who says that you are > also wasting his time, instead you get gratitude and, in turn, this > is rewarding for you. Who said you were waisting his time? I never did that. I said that I have

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-30 Thread Georg Baum
Am Freitag, 28. April 2006 17:35 schrieb Enrico Forestieri: > On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 04:52:02PM +0200, Georg Baum wrote: > > - send patches against 1.4 (step by step, one fix = one patch) > > I was asked to send patches for trunk. Please, make your mind. That is true. First comes trunk, then 1.4

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-30 Thread Georg Baum
Am Freitag, 28. April 2006 17:12 schrieb Angus Leeming: > I used to lurve fights on Fridays. Please be ruder! And then you write 'please'? That won't work :-) (no friday anymore). BTW what is lurve? I only know lure. Georg

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-30 Thread Georg Baum
Am Freitag, 28. April 2006 17:07 schrieb Bo Peng: > I am still wondering why people do not like my local-layout-cls > patch(es). Forcing users to put .layout and .cls in their respective > places, using that lengthy and troublesome procedure, is *not* nice. > Even latex allows local .cls file! II

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-29 Thread Jose' Matos
On Saturday 29 April 2006 16:25, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > > You mean nobody explained you? I understand your reaction then. I've > read a bit the archive and here is my interpretation: In the old old > days when men were men and lyx was a pioneer project, there were huge > flame wars among develo

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-29 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 05:25:44PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > Enrico Forestieri a écrit : > > On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 04:36:31PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > > > >> It was friday Enrico, Friday! > > > > Please, explain this Friday thing. In my culture Friday is like > > Saturday, or

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-29 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Enrico Forestieri a écrit : On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 04:36:31PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: It was friday Enrico, Friday! Please, explain this Friday thing. In my culture Friday is like Saturday, or Monday, or... (sorry for being so stupid). You mean nobody explained you? I understand yo

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-29 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 04:36:31PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > It was friday Enrico, Friday! Please, explain this Friday thing. In my culture Friday is like Saturday, or Monday, or... (sorry for being so stupid). -- Enrico

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-29 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Enrico Forestieri a écrit : On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 03:21:13PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Enrico Forestieri a écrit : On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 02:34:43PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Michael Gerz a écrit : Gentlemen, I think I have to give some comments on the heated 1.4 vs. 1.5 dis

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-29 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 03:21:13PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > Enrico Forestieri a écrit : > > On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 02:34:43PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > > > >> Michael Gerz a écrit : > >>> Gentlemen, > >>> > >>> I think I have to give some comments on the heated 1.4 vs. 1.5 discu

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-29 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 10:42:34AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Enrico" == Enrico Forestieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Enrico> It's a benefit/cost ratio, Jean-Marc. I gain nothing in having > Enrico> my patches applied. I can simply patch my version and have a > Enrico> very

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-29 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Enrico Forestieri a écrit : On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 02:34:43PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Michael Gerz a écrit : Gentlemen, I think I have to give some comments on the heated 1.4 vs. 1.5 discussion. I've hoped that it would be more heated... like it should be for a decent friday flame w

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-29 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 02:34:43PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > Michael Gerz a écrit : > > Gentlemen, > > > > I think I have to give some comments on the heated 1.4 vs. 1.5 discussion. > > I've hoped that it would be more heated... like it should be for a > decent friday flame war but I di

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-29 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Michael Gerz a écrit : Gentlemen, I think I have to give some comments on the heated 1.4 vs. 1.5 discussion. I've hoped that it would be more heated... like it should be for a decent friday flame war but I did not succeed. Except for Enrico and Georg who managed to write one or two bad words

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-29 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Enrico" == Enrico Forestieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Enrico> It's a benefit/cost ratio, Jean-Marc. I gain nothing in having Enrico> my patches applied. I can simply patch my version and have a Enrico> very high value for that ratio. This may seem selfish Enrico> behaviour but gives me m

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Michael Gerz
Gentlemen, I think I have to give some comments on the heated 1.4 vs. 1.5 discussion. I understand that everybody wants to have his favourite feature available as soon as possible. However, we are obliged to provide the LyX users with a series of stable versions at the same time. If someone w

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Angus Leeming
Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I used to lurve fights on Fridays. Please be ruder! > I am trying to revive the tradition but nobody follows... Do you think I > should be even ruder? Yeah. Tell 'em like it is!

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 03:12:57PM +, Angus Leeming wrote: > Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> So it is broken and will stay broken? It is not that important, after > >> all this simply avoids an empty "TeX Information", but I am really > >> annoyed that seemingly everything which is

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 06:38:04PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > Enrico Forestieri a écrit : > >On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 05:48:24PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > > > >>Please ask for that damn svn access! > > > >Abdel, > > > >I am not a programmer but a "power user" (using Windows parliance)

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 05:54:35PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Enrico" == Enrico Forestieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Enrico> Here is the problem. Nobody cares about cygwin, ergo it is not > Enrico> well accepted. I mean, you have to do something for nothing, I > Enrico> woul

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Enrico Forestieri a écrit : On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 05:48:24PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Please ask for that damn svn access! Abdel, I am not a programmer but a "power user" (using Windows parliance), and my contribution to LyX would be poor. bla bla bla... The native Windows port

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 05:48:24PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > Please ask for that damn svn access! Abdel, I am not a programmer but a "power user" (using Windows parliance), and my contribution to LyX would be poor. The native Windows port had screwed up the cygwin target and nobody care

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Angus Leeming a écrit : Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: So it is broken and will stay broken? It is not that important, after all this simply avoids an empty "TeX Information", but I am really annoyed that seemingly everything which is cygwin related is not well accepted. Bullshit. In

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Bo" == Bo Peng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I agree that getting some of the changes in was painful, but I >> think the quality of the patches improved. Bo> I agree with both, taking the recent example of Bo> Document->compressed. If I can get feedbacks at the current speed, Bo> I have n

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Bo Peng
I agree that getting some of the changes in was painful, but I think the quality of the patches improved. I agree with both, taking the recent example of Document->compressed. If I can get feedbacks at the current speed, I have no complain. That does not have to mean I will invest time on backpo

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Enrico" == Enrico Forestieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Enrico> Here is the problem. Nobody cares about cygwin, ergo it is not Enrico> well accepted. I mean, you have to do something for nothing, I Enrico> would not well accept it, too. It is not that we do not _care_. It is just that, si

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Enrico Forestieri a écrit : On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 04:52:02PM +0200, Georg Baum wrote: - explain why it is needed - explain how well it is tested - explain potential risks (or the lack thereof) - ask for inclusion I think I always did so. - commit it (yourself) if OK Cannot do it. Enric

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 04:52:02PM +0200, Georg Baum wrote: > Enrico Forestieri wrote: > > > So it is broken and will stay broken? It is not that important, after > > all this simply avoids an empty "TeX Information", but I am really > > annoyed that seemingly everything which is cygwin related is

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Bo Peng a écrit : I am sure that you will get more positive feedback if you follow this procedure. I really was interested in pushing some of my patches in, because I think they are important, if not essential, and other people can benefit from them. However, I feel less and less motivated in d

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Angus Leeming
Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> So it is broken and will stay broken? It is not that important, after >> all this simply avoids an empty "TeX Information", but I am really >> annoyed that seemingly everything which is cygwin related is not >> well accepted. > Bullshit. In my case I don't

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Bo Peng
I am sure that you will get more positive feedback if you follow this procedure. I really was interested in pushing some of my patches in, because I think they are important, if not essential, and other people can benefit from them. However, I feel less and less motivated in doing so. I am using

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Georg" == Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Georg> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> Also, (now that I tried it in 1.5) wouldn't it be more readable by >> trying to put the arrows on the left and bottom border of the >> inset? Georg> I did not increase the area covered by the phantom ins

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Georg Baum
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Also, (now that I tried it in 1.5) wouldn't it be more readable by > trying to put the arrows on the left and bottom border of the inset? I did not increase the area covered by the phantom inset in comparison to the contents on purpose, otherwise you would not get co

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Georg Baum
Enrico Forestieri wrote: > So it is broken and will stay broken? It is not that important, after > all this simply avoids an empty "TeX Information", but I am really > annoyed that seemingly everything which is cygwin related is not > well accepted. Bullshit. In my case I don't have the energy no

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 02:53:08PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > r13704 - EF - Account for Cygwin teTeX on Windows > > I'd say no. So it is broken and will stay broken? It is not that important, after all this simply avoids an empty "TeX Information", but I am really annoyed that seemin

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Georg" == Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Georg> That one is really easy indeed (only two new files and a couple Georg> of changed lines), and the most important thing is that it is Georg> self contained (if there should be a bug only phantom stuff Georg> will be affected). I'll prep

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Georg Baum
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> "Michael" == Michael Gerz >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > r13700 - GB - Make MathBigInset working > > I'd say no. I agree, because it is a) not finished yet and b) involves changes at central places that may have side effects. > There is also a phant

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-28 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Michael" == Michael Gerz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Michael> Hi Jean-Marc, here comes an updated list of potential 1.4.X Michael> patches. Michael> I guess that not all of them make sense for 1.4.X. Guys, Michael> please let me know if some revision can be removed from the Michael> list.

Re: Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-25 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Michael Gerz wrote: > Hi Jean-Marc, > > here comes an updated list of potential 1.4.X patches. Yes, mine (JS) should go in in any case (IMHO). Jürgen

Potential LyX 1.4.X patches

2006-04-24 Thread Michael Gerz
Hi Jean-Marc, here comes an updated list of potential 1.4.X patches. I guess that not all of them make sense for 1.4.X. Guys, please let me know if some revision can be removed from the list. Michael Changes that went into trunk but not into 1.4.X: ---