Not a big deal, but just a note that our Embedded Objects manual will
fail to compile with LuaTeX when 2025-06-01 is released due to this
issue:
https://github.com/latex3/latex2e/issues/1725
I'll invert the corresponding tests when it's released.
Scott
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On Sun, Jun 09, 2024 at 01:21:16PM GMT, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 09, 2024 at 07:44:58AM GMT, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> > Am Samstag, dem 08.06.2024 um 12:17 -0400 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
> > > Can anyone else confirm (or refute) on latest TeX Live?
> >
> > Yes. It seems the package
On Sun, Jun 09, 2024 at 07:44:58AM GMT, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> Am Samstag, dem 08.06.2024 um 12:17 -0400 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
> > Can anyone else confirm (or refute) on latest TeX Live?
>
> Yes. It seems the package arydshln does not work anymore with the
> tabular changes in LaTeX 6/24.
Am Samstag, dem 08.06.2024 um 12:17 -0400 schrieb Scott Kostyshak:
> Can anyone else confirm (or refute) on latest TeX Live?
Yes. It seems the package arydshln does not work anymore with the
tabular changes in LaTeX 6/24.
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Am Sat, 8 Jun 2024 12:17:35 -0400
schrieb Scott Kostyshak :
> This time I waited a a few days before complaining ;)
>
> Our Embedded Objects manual fails to compile for me on updated TeX Live
> with pdflatex.
>
> Can anyone else confirm (or refute) on latest TeX Live? If so
This time I waited a a few days before complaining ;)
Our Embedded Objects manual fails to compile for me on updated TeX Live
with pdflatex.
Can anyone else confirm (or refute) on latest TeX Live? If so, I will
make an example and post a question on tex.se.
Scott
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 at 00:15, Thibaut Cuvelier wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 at 04:11, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
>
>> I'll paste the errors at the bottom of this message. Thibaut, is this
>> related to recent work?
>>
>
> It's highly likely, I'm having a look!
>
That problem should be fixed at
fb70
On Tue, 10 Jan 2023 at 04:11, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> I'll paste the errors at the bottom of this message. Thibaut, is this
> related to recent work?
>
It's highly likely, I'm having a look!
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to recent work?
Scott
-- Calling: /usr/bin/xmllint --loaddtd --noout
"/home/scott/lyxbuilds/master-master/CMakeBuild/autotests/out-home/AbC_jpU8NF/doc/EmbeddedObjects.xhtml"
-- Errors from xmllint: doc/EmbeddedObject
2014-05-15 21:56 GMT+02:00 Georg Baum:
> IMHO we should
> never try to interpret ERT.
>
In the beamer case, it was necessary, since old ERT arguments cease to work
due to the redefinitions.
Jürgen
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> As I wrote, I do not understand what the method is supposed to do. When we
> have argument insets for initials, why bother converting ERT?
It is not only used for initials, but in a lot more places. It is supposed
to resolve hacks like an ERT "}{" or which Uwe used a
2014-05-15 15:37 GMT+02:00 Richard Heck:
> The attached puts limits on all the various searches. It also re-organizes
> some of the code, as we don't need to hardcode quite so many things. Can
> someone have a quick look before I commit.
>
The patch makes sense AFAICS.
Jürgen
>
> Richard
>
>
On 05/15/2014 05:19 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
2014-05-14 21:18 GMT+02:00 Richard Heck:
This:
Todo: this routine can currently handle only one mandatory
argument of envi
'''
+end_layout = find_end_of_layout(document.body, line)
lineERT = line
2014-05-14 21:18 GMT+02:00 Richard Heck:
> This:
>
>
> Todo: this routine can currently handle only one mandatory argument
> of envi
> '''
> +end_layout = find_end_of_layout(document.body, line)
> lineERT = line
> endn = line
> loop = 1
> -while lineERT != -1 and
On 05/14/2014 05:35 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
2014-05-13 19:22 GMT+02:00 Jürgen Spitzmüller:
The attached fixes the thinko in the lyx2lyx method. However, I do
not know what this method actually is supposed to convert, so I
cannot really test if the conversion works. The respecti
2014-05-14 8:52 GMT+02:00 Jürgen Spitzmüller:
> LyX: \end_deeper: depth is already null [around line 2762 of file
> /tmp/lyx_tmpdir.pyVFzUDL2492/Buffer_convertLyXFormatXX.lyx.uWhbNdtI2492
> current token: '\end_deeper' context: 'InsetText::read']
>
False alarm. This was a particular beamer do
2014-05-13 19:22 GMT+02:00 Jürgen Spitzmüller:
> The attached fixes the thinko in the lyx2lyx method. However, I do not
> know what this method actually is supposed to convert, so I cannot really
> test if the conversion works. The respective commit (by Uwe) is this:
>
> http://www.lyx.org/trac/ch
2014-05-13 21:27 GMT+02:00 Enrico Forestieri :
> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 07:22:37PM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> >
> > The attached fixes the thinko in the lyx2lyx method.
>
> However, if you insert any ERT in the Initials layout, the conversion
> will still fail in the same manner. There is
Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> A simple and fast set of tests that could be run is to use lyx2lyx to
> do the roundtrip but not to export. Perhaps this is what you're
> referring to? Now that I reread my original email, this is what it
> sounds like I did. But really what I did was this and then I ran t
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 07:22:37PM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
>
> The attached fixes the thinko in the lyx2lyx method.
However, if you insert any ERT in the Initials layout, the conversion
will still fail in the same manner. There is something wrong here.
> BTW I still get a console messag
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Richard Heck wrote:
> On 05/13/2014 02:51 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
>> A simple and fast set of tests that could be run is to use lyx2lyx to
>> do the roundtrip but not to export.
>
>
> Yes. We should check that the exported files open properly in the previous
>
On 05/13/2014 02:51 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Richard Heck wrote:
On the wiki, there's a page about release procedures.
Do you mean the following?
http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/ReleaseProcedure
Does anything need to be updated on that page for 2.1.x? (it is
talki
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Richard Heck wrote:
> On the wiki, there's a page about release procedures.
Do you mean the following?
http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/ReleaseProcedure
Does anything need to be updated on that page for 2.1.x? (it is
talking about 2.0.0 and 2.0.x)
> Can you add a note
On 05/13/2014 01:22 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
2014-05-13 16:56 GMT+02:00 Enrico Forestieri:
Doesn't seem to be related to roundtrips. The problem seems to be
related
to the conversion of arguments. See attached example.
The attached fixes the thinko in the lyx2lyx method. Howev
2014-05-13 16:56 GMT+02:00 Enrico Forestieri:
> Doesn't seem to be related to roundtrips. The problem seems to be related
> to the conversion of arguments. See attached example.
>
The attached fixes the thinko in the lyx2lyx method. However, I do not know
what this method actually is supposed to
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 09:34:14AM -0400, Richard Heck wrote:
> On 05/13/2014 04:18 AM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> >On master branch, if I open the embedded objects manual, I can compile
> >with pdflatex. If I then export the manual to 2.0.x format and then
> >reopen the export
On 05/13/2014 04:18 AM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
On master branch, if I open the embedded objects manual, I can compile
with pdflatex. If I then export the manual to 2.0.x format and then
reopen the exported file in the master branch, I get the following
error:
! Package xcolor Error: Undefined
On 05/13/2014 04:18 AM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
On master branch, if I open the embedded objects manual, I can compile
with pdflatex. If I then export the manual to 2.0.x format and then
reopen the exported file in the master branch, I get the following
error:
! Package xcolor Error: Undefined
On master branch, if I open the embedded objects manual, I can compile
with pdflatex. If I then export the manual to 2.0.x format and then
reopen the exported file in the master branch, I get the following
error:
! Package xcolor Error: Undefined color `Color'.
Is this finding interesting/u
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
rgheck writes:
This must be a problem with my setup. On both branch and trunk, I get
errors of the form "caption undefined" when trying to compile this
manual. Help?
I do not see this. Do you have a recent latex. This manual uses as many
things as possible
rgheck writes:
> This must be a problem with my setup. On both branch and trunk, I get
> errors of the form "caption undefined" when trying to compile this
> manual. Help?
I do not see this. Do you have a recent latex. This manual uses as many
things as possible, and you;d better have texlive200
This must be a problem with my setup. On both branch and trunk, I get
errors of the form "caption undefined" when trying to compile this
manual. Help?
Richard
> "Uwe" == Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Uwe> Hey, you don't need to show your muscles! ;-)
:)
Uwe> As I stated in this thread before I will remove the prettyref
Uwe> description right now, but I need some time for it!. I'll see if
Uwe> I find the time today.
Thanks a lot.
JMarc
>Uwe> He want to have it removed before LyX 1.4.4 comes out because he
>Uwe> see this as showstopper.
>
> Yes. And the alternative is to remove EmbeddedObjects for this release
> (to have more time to fix the problem correctly). I think I know what
> choice you prefer :)
Hey, you don't need to sh
> "Uwe" == Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Uwe> That's the same problematic as with the Solaris ImageMagick
Uwe> problem. I don't understand why the Linux-distributions ship 5
Uwe> years old stuff. Stability is one point but when it leads to
Uwe> incompatibilites. The distros for example
Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> > Do you know why he had problems?
>
> Yes, he didn't know that the packages are on CTAN and that the .sty-files
> are generated by LaTeX out of the .ins/dtx files
>
> > Or he as an experienced LyX user, but never needed to install latex
> > packages so far. Or he did not d
> "Jürgen" == Jürgen Spitzmüller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Jürgen> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
>> I would define it (personally) as "not described in the UK TUG TeX
>> FAQ". arydshln falls in this category. There are many things that
>> can be done in LaTeX, there are fewer things that are a
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> I would define it (personally) as "not described in the UK TUG TeX
> FAQ". arydshln falls in this category. There are many things that can
> be done in LaTeX, there are fewer things that are advisable.
Or: described in the LaTeX companion (as long as the 2nd edition i
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> So teTeX3 has prettyref.sty?
No. I have that in my home texmf. I forgot about that.
Jürgen
> "Uwe" == Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Uwe> So you don't need to know the LaTeX internals or the package
Uwe> repositories but are able to install packages. Maybe you
Uwe> misunderstood me, I don't mean a package manager for LyX but one
Uwe> that should be shipped by LaTeX-distributi
> "Uwe" == Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Hm, that's probably a bit late for 1.4.4. But Jean-Marc is to
>> decide.
Uwe> He want to have it removed before LyX 1.4.4 comes out because he
Uwe> see this as showstopper.
Yes. And the alternative is to remove EmbeddedObjects for this rel
> "Uwe" == Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> But the text I read did not have much information that was special
>> to floats. Do you plan to repeat the same text over and over?
Uwe> In this manual are two contruct types that can bereferenced:
Uwe> Floats and Longtables. Reference handl
> "Jürgen" == Jürgen Spitzmüller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Jürgen> what is "esoteric"? Can we define that as "not in teTeX"?
I would define it (personally) as "not described in the UK TUG TeX
FAQ". arydshln falls in this category. There are many things that can
be done in LaTeX, there are
Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> > \usepackage[labelfont={bf,sf}, tableposition=top]{caption}[2004/07/16]
>
> Done.
Thanks.
> > Also, user friendliness is in the eye of the beholder. A LaTeX package
> > manager is really nothing I miss on Linux.
>
> OK, but I think Harmut is an experienced LyXer on Linux and s
> Do you know why he had problems?
Yes, he didn't know that the packages are on CTAN and that the .sty-files are generated by LaTeX out
of the .ins/dtx files
> Or he as an experienced LyX user, but never needed to install latex packages
so far.
> Or he did not do it for a long time and forgot
Am Dienstag, 6. Februar 2007 22:43 schrieb Uwe Stöhr:
> Jürgen Spitzmüller schrieb:
> > Also, user friendliness is in the eye of the beholder. A LaTeX package
manager
> > is really nothing I miss on Linux.
Me neither.
> OK, but I think Harmut is an experienced LyXer on Linux and should
therefo
Am Dienstag, 6. Februar 2007 20:40 schrieb Uwe Stöhr:
> That's the same problematic as with the Solaris ImageMagick problem. I
don't understand why the
> Linux-distributions ship 5 years old stuff.
I don't know current distros that ship tetex 2, but at work I am forced to
use tetex 2 unless I
Jürgen Spitzmüller schrieb:
Nevertheless, please load it with the release date as optional argument
\usepackage[labelfont={bf,sf}, tableposition=top]{caption}[2004/07/16]
Done.
Also, user friendliness is in the eye of the beholder. A LaTeX package manager
is really nothing I miss on Linux.
Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> > You probably have caption.sty v1 and v2 (a.k.a. caption2.sty) on your
> > box, but Uwe's manual requires a (fairly recent) version of caption.sty
> > v. 3 (which is again called caption.sty for some odd reason).
>
> The version 3 of caption.sty was not published as caption3.
> You probably have caption.sty v1 and v2 (a.k.a. caption2.sty) on your box, but
> Uwe's manual requires a (fairly recent) version of caption.sty v. 3 (which is
> again called caption.sty for some odd reason).
The version 3 of caption.sty was not published as caption3.sty but again as caption.sty
But the text I read did not have much information that was special to
floats. Do you plan to repeat the same text over and over?
In this manual are two contruct types that can bereferenced: Floats and Longtables. Reference
handling for Longtable is quite different and decribed in the correspond
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> > "Jürgen" == Jürgen Spitzmüller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Jürgen> You probably have caption.sty v1 and v2 (a.k.a. caption2.sty)
> Jürgen> on your box, but Uwe's manual requires a (fairly recent)
> Jürgen> version of caption.sty v. 3 (which is again called ca
> "Jürgen" == Jürgen Spitzmüller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Jürgen> You probably have caption.sty v1 and v2 (a.k.a. caption2.sty)
Jürgen> on your box, but Uwe's manual requires a (fairly recent)
Jürgen> version of caption.sty v. 3 (which is again called caption.sty
Jürgen> for some odd reason
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> I tried to work around prettyref problems to see how far I could get
> and the result is not very nice on my teTeX 2 setup.
>
> - caption.sty does not load (I do not know why). It is probably
> related to some package interaction.
You probably have caption.sty v1 an
> "Jürgen" == Jürgen Spitzmüller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Jürgen> Agreed. I think the only thing we can do now is to describe
Jürgen> prettyref without actually using it in the docs, like
Jürgen> "Formatted reference: prints a self defined cross-reference
Jürgen> format including a prefix
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> Uwe> I don't know, I only decribed what LyX supports, so when I should
> Uwe> remove it in the doc, it should also be removed in LyX or better
> Uwe> replaced by another command from a similar package to prettyref.
>
> The problem is that there is no drop-in replacemen
> "Uwe" == Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> So your EmbeddedObjects help file cannot be typeset. This is a
>> blocker for 1.4.4. As a temporary measure, shall we remove
>> reference to prettyref in the 1.4 version of the manual at least?
Uwe> I don't know, I only decribed what LyX sup
A worse problem is that prettyref is not in teTeX 2 (at least) because
of unknown license:
http://www.mail-archive.com/tetex@dbs.uni-hannover.de/msg00342.html
So your EmbeddedObjects help file cannot be typeset. This is a blocker
for 1.4.4. As a temporary measure, shall we remove reference to
pre
> "Uwe" == Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Uwe> - when using a prettyref inset \usepackage{prettyref} is set to
Uwe> the preamble. What when the user needs to load this package with
Uwe> an option?
A worse problem is that prettyref is not in teTeX 2 (at least) because
of unknown licens
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> It can be done as easily without package
You're right, thanks.
Jürgen
Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> We have a general problem here: Everything that LyX adds to the preamble is
> not editable by the user. The preamble stuff that is inserted by Lyx
> without setting an option in the preferences should appear in the normal
> preamble dialog. This would solve various problems like
> "Uwe" == Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Uwe> This seems to be a smart solution. I'll have a closer look and
Uwe> implement this. Thanks for the hint, I wasn't aware that there is
Uwe> a \setboolean command.
It can be done as easily without package
% used for tables with dashed lines
> I disagree with the
> recommendation to use pdf images for pdf output, because other formats
> would slow down the workflow.
When I want to compile a document with e.g. 100 GIF-images to PDF it takes about 10 minutes until
they are converted and I see the PDF result. I did not only recommend t
Am Sonntag, 4. Februar 2007 14:39 schrieb Uwe Stöhr:
> > I disagree with the
> > recommendation to use pdf images for pdf output, because other formats
> > would slow down the workflow.
>
> When I want to compile a document with e.g. 100 GIF-images to PDF it
takes about 10 minutes until
> the
Am Samstag, 3. Februar 2007 14:11 schrieb Uwe Stöhr:
> > I did not read it, but noticed an error by chance in section 1.3 image
> > formats: pdf can embed natively png, jpg and pdf (and LyX makes use of
> > that), you write that it only can embed pdf. I wanted to create a
patch
> > instead of
Jürgen Spitzmüller schrieb:
% used for tables with dashed lines
\newboolean{arydshln}
\IfFileExists{arydshln} ...
(It must be
\IfFileExists{arydshln.sty} )
It's in. There's now only one problem: Besides arydshln and marginnote the package prettyref is not
on all LaTeX-systems. As LyX support
Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> This seems to be a smart solution. I'll have a closer look and implement
> this. Thanks for the hint, I wasn't aware that there is a \setboolean
> command.
This is part of the ifthen package.
Jürgen
Georg Baum schrieb:
It would also be good to describe the conversion strategy here: bitmap
images in formats other than png and jpg are converted to png for
pdflatex, and vector images other than pdf are converted to pdf. That
might be helpful for users to decide which format they use.
And s
Jürgen Spitzmüller schrieb:
What you could do is the following:
\usepackage{ifthen}
% used for tables with dashed lines
\newboolean{arydshln}
\IfFileExists{arydshln}{%
\usepackage{arydshln}
\setboolean{arydshln}{true}
}{\setboolean{arydshln}{false}}
and then wrap section 2.12.
Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> This has the same effect as marginnote is then also used.
What I meant is:
\IfFileExists{marginnote}{}{%
\usepackage{marginnote}
\let\marginpar\marginnote
}
but see below.
> > And then tell the readers they should install that package if they need
> to > s
> For instance, you could use:
>
> % use the marginnote package for margin notes
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> \usepackage{marginnote}
> \let\marginpar\marginnote
> }
This has the same effect as marginnote is then also used.
> And then tell the readers they should install that package if
> I did not read it, but noticed an error by chance in section 1.3 image
> formats: pdf can embed natively png, jpg and pdf (and LyX makes use of
> that), you write that it only can embed pdf. I wanted to create a patch
> instead of complaining, but since you ask...
Where is this, I can't find wh
Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> Yes beause it's an "extended" manual. As in Extended.lyx there are also
> descriptions how to solve special problems using ERT and preamble commands.
> (I collected this stuff over the last two years from answers I gave on the
> users-list.)
But it is a help manual, so users sho
Am Samstag, 3. Februar 2007 00:18 schrieb Uwe Stöhr:
> portfolio. Until now I only got positive reactions and only from users, I
would like to hear what
> you developers think about it. (The manual can also be used to find ideas
about further LyX features.)
I did not read it, but noticed an er
Uwe,
with an ordinary teTeX setup from openSuse 10.2, I get the following errors
when trying to view that document:
Error 1:
\ProcessOptionsWithKV{caption}
Try typingto proceed.
If that doesn't work, type X to quit.
Error 2:
marginnote.sty not foun
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