Am Dienstag, 6. Februar 2007 20:40 schrieb Uwe Stöhr:

> That's the same problematic as with the Solaris ImageMagick problem. I 
don't understand why the 
> Linux-distributions ship 5 years old stuff.

I don't know current distros that ship tetex 2, but at work I am forced to 
use tetex 2 unless I want to maintain a complete tex installation on my 
own.

You simply have to accept that many users can not upgrade their OS at will 
for various reasons.

> Stability is one point but when it leads to  
> incompatibilites. The distros for example always ship the latest Gnome 
and KDE, so why not also the 
> other stuff.
> teTeX 3 is now 3 years old and I it is recommended not to use teTeX 2 
anymore. There are many 
> changes concerning pdftex, dvips, and teTeX 2 doesn't have the since a 
while required 
> eTeX-extensions. So using teTeX 2 could also cause troubles with other 
programs.

Sure, but OTH it works fine for everything I need at work. I did install a 
few extra packages (such as prettyref), but thats it.

> You said that the prettyref support was a fault, why? Because it's not in 
a certain LaTeX-distro? 
> This rule doesn't apply for MiKTeX, where many of the packages LyX 
supports are not in the basic 
> installation and must be installed on demand. So where should be the 
border?
> For example we often have requests to support the listings package. I 
also would like to support it 
> but as this is not in MiKTeX's default installation, it cannot be 
supported? Aren't the 
> LaTeX-distros for Linux not also only basic installations and you have to 
install missing packages 
> on demand?

That depends. Some distros have only basic tex support, others have very 
good one, for example debian even has a beamer packages since years that 
installs the layout file into the lyx folder.

> Btw. As teTeX is no longer developed the Linux distros have to switch to 
TeXLive the next times. 
> With TeXLive you are always up to date because it has a build in update 
manager.

I doubt that. I install what comes via "apt-get update; apt-get upgrade", 
and I know many people who do the same. A "latex package manager" is 
simply a much less urgent issue on linux, and not needed at all if you use 
a distro with good tex support.
In fact, based on my experience with application specific package managers 
(for perl and php) I would not be surprised if it would be much harder to 
use than manual installation from ctan.


Georg

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