Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

2014-02-27 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Donnerstag 27 Februar 2014, 12:29:36 schrieb stefano franchi: > - Bibliography support with suitable styles is a must. This feature is as > crucial to someone working in the Humanities, as math support is for > someone working in the sciences. With the difference that scientists can > often avo

Re: [LyX/2.0.x] zh_TW.po: huge translation update by Mingyi Wu

2014-02-27 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 27.02.2014 03:19, schrieb Pavel Sanda: GPL statement missing. P I know and I already contacted him yesterday to send us a mail. regards Uwe

Re: 2.1 release status

2014-02-27 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 21.02.2014 21:55, schrieb Georg Baum: -- Documentation: Uwe updated it a lot. Is this finished, or are any updates still missing? There is still some work to do. I guess I will need at least 2 more weeks and I guess I will uncover further bugs. regards Uwe

Re: LyX on OS X 10.9

2014-02-27 Thread Benjamin Piwowarski
Hi Georg, here are some comments/answers on your questions: On 27 Feb 2014, at 22:36 , Georg Baum wrote: > Benjamin Piwowarski wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> While I was trying to update a patch for LyX, I had troubles compiling LYX >> on OS X 10.9 introduces quite some changes: - QT5 is required (as

Re: About XML LyX file format [was: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats]

2014-02-27 Thread Alex Vergara Gil
Do you mean a native LyX file format which would be the primary format, or an auxiliary format for interfacing with external tools? I mean xml as primary format. The native file format would need to be non-static and would need format changes as LyX develops (so would face similar problems to

Re: LyX on OS X 10.9

2014-02-27 Thread Georg Baum
Benjamin Piwowarski wrote: > Hi, > > While I was trying to update a patch for LyX, I had troubles compiling LYX > on OS X 10.9 introduces quite some changes: - QT5 is required (as > discussed on the mailing list) - libc++ (instead of libstdc++) is used by > default systemwide > > So here are som

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

2014-02-27 Thread stefano franchi
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Richard Heck wrote: > On 02/27/2014 01:29 PM, stefano franchi wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> I'd like to hear other people's opinions on this. Here is what I think: >> >> - Bibliography support with suitable styles is a must. This feature is as >> crucial to someone work

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

2014-02-27 Thread Georg Baum
Richard Heck wrote: > Some of this stuff will have to be exported as comments that we can > reparse on import. I believe that is already done with some math stuff > in TeX export. Really? Do you have an example? I always thought LyX math is 100% equivalent to LaTeX math (with the exception of ma

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

2014-02-27 Thread Georg Baum
stefano franchi wrote: > The mentioned fixes are fixes to tex2lyx? No, the math parser in LyX (2.1 of course). tex2lyx did not need any fixes regarding the math. Georg

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

2014-02-27 Thread stefano franchi
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Rob Oakes wrote: > As I've followed the pandoc conversation, I've been concerned about the > introduction of another dependency. If the import/export tools can be > kept to LyX and some processing script, that seems easier to maintain > than a complex chain of to

Re: About XML LyX file format [was: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats]

2014-02-27 Thread Georg Baum
Richard Heck wrote: > On 02/27/2014 11:27 AM, Alex Vergara Gil wrote: >> >> I´m a LyX enthusiast and I can see how great this software is because >> I have used it for 5 years by now. I´ve always asked in this list for >> a static target lyx format that should be an intrinsic xml format, >> which

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

2014-02-27 Thread stefano franchi
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 2:53 PM, stefano franchi wrote: > On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Richard Heck wrote: >> On 02/27/2014 03:47 PM, stefano franchi wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Richard Heck wrote: On 02/27/2014 01:29 PM, stefano franchi wrote: > > I'd l

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

2014-02-27 Thread stefano franchi
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Richard Heck wrote: > On 02/27/2014 03:47 PM, stefano franchi wrote: >> >> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Richard Heck wrote: >>> >>> On 02/27/2014 01:29 PM, stefano franchi wrote: I'd like to hear other people's opinions on this. Here is what I think:

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

2014-02-27 Thread Richard Heck
On 02/27/2014 03:47 PM, stefano franchi wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Richard Heck wrote: On 02/27/2014 01:29 PM, stefano franchi wrote: I'd like to hear other people's opinions on this. Here is what I think: - Bibliography support with suitable styles is a must. This feature is as

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

2014-02-27 Thread stefano franchi
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Georg Baum wrote: > Georg Baum wrote: > >> We still need to decide what >> part of math should be supported for the round trip, but for this decision >> you can assume that all amsmath commands work in LyX (if not I'll fix >> them), and only concentrate on what is

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

2014-02-27 Thread Georg Baum
Georg Baum wrote: > We still need to decide what > part of math should be supported for the round trip, but for this decision > you can assume that all amsmath commands work in LyX (if not I'll fix > them), and only concentrate on what is problematic in docx/odt and what is > needed. Proof: With

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

2014-02-27 Thread stefano franchi
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Richard Heck wrote: > On 02/27/2014 01:29 PM, stefano franchi wrote: >> >> I'd like to hear other people's opinions on this. Here is what I think: >> >> - Bibliography support with suitable styles is a must. This feature is as >> crucial to someone working in the H

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

2014-02-27 Thread Richard Heck
On 02/27/2014 01:29 PM, stefano franchi wrote: I'd like to hear other people's opinions on this. Here is what I think: - Bibliography support with suitable styles is a must. This feature is as crucial to someone working in the Humanities, as math support is for someone working in the scien

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

2014-02-27 Thread Richard Heck
On 02/27/2014 11:23 AM, stefano franchi wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Richard Heck wrote: On 02/27/2014 03:44 AM, Prannoy Pilligundla wrote: I also had a look at pandoc and tex4ht but as they are converters from Latex,i feel we should only consider them as secondary options. I bel

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

2014-02-27 Thread Richard Heck
On 02/27/2014 11:08 AM, stefano franchi wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Richard Heck wrote: On 02/27/2014 03:44 AM, Prannoy Pilligundla wrote: I also had a look at pandoc and tex4ht but as they are converters from Latex,i feel we should only consider them as secondary options. I bel

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

2014-02-27 Thread Richard Heck
On 02/27/2014 01:47 PM, Georg Baum wrote: Rainer M Krug wrote: I assume that in LyX, there is an API which could be used to convert *independent* from the file format? The closest to this are probably the different writing methods of each individual inset, e.g. Inset::latex(), Inset::xhtml() e

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

2014-02-27 Thread Richard Heck
On 02/27/2014 11:38 AM, Scott Kostyshak wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Richard Heck wrote: The downside to any python-based approach, though, is that the LyX format is a moving target. The script would need to be updated with every syntax change. Or could just rely on lyx2lyx. Yes

Re: About XML LyX file format [was: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats]

2014-02-27 Thread Richard Heck
On 02/27/2014 11:27 AM, Alex Vergara Gil wrote: The downside to any python-based approach, though, is that the LyX format is a moving target. The script would need to be updated with every syntax change. I assume this problem would persist with a pandoc approach, isn't it? The Lyx reader mod

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

2014-02-27 Thread Rob Oakes
Dear Developers, I've been following this conversation from the shadows, but I had one thought that they be relevant. I think everyone agrees that we want to avoid reimplementing the internal logic of a LyX document. While thinking about what might be the best way to implement a converter, it

About XML LyX file format [was: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats]

2014-02-27 Thread Alex Vergara Gil
The downside to any python-based approach, though, is that the LyX format is a moving target. The script would need to be updated with every syntax change. I assume this problem would persist with a pandoc approach, isn't it? The Lyx reader module would still be format-dependent, unless we go

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

2014-02-27 Thread Georg Baum
Rainer M Krug wrote: > Richard Heck writes: > >> The downside to any python-based approach, though, is that the LyX >> format is a moving target. The script would need to be updated with >> every syntax change. Not necessarily - one could use lyx2lyx to convert to a fixed format. However, the

LyX on OS X 10.9

2014-02-27 Thread Benjamin Piwowarski
Hi, While I was trying to update a patch for LyX, I had troubles compiling LYX on OS X 10.9 introduces quite some changes: - QT5 is required (as discussed on the mailing list) - libc++ (instead of libstdc++) is used by default systemwide So here are some patches for compiling LyX on OS X 10.9 th

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

2014-02-27 Thread stefano franchi
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Prannoy Pilligundla < prannoy.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > ᐧ > > stefano franchi wrote: >> >> > Well, pandoc handles LaTex already (although not very successfully in >> > my tests. Management of citation, for instance leaves a lot to be >> > desired), so all it's mis

Re: [GSOC 2014] - Implement 3-box drawing of insets

2014-02-27 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Donnerstag 27 Februar 2014, 05:00:43 schrieb Mitul Modi: > I have read IDEA page for GSOC 2014 and I am interested to contribute > to project : " Implement 3-box drawing of insets". Since it is > mentioned that C++ and Qt are prerequisites I am looking forward to > work on this project. If someo

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

2014-02-27 Thread Georg Baum
stefano franchi wrote: > On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Georg Baum > wrote: >> >> I'd use the AMS math test document testmath.tex, this one does not >> contain too much fancy text stuff. I just fixed some obvious bugs in the >> LyX math parser. > > testmath.tex looks very very complicated to m

Re: [GSOC 2014] - Implement 3-box drawing of insets

2014-02-27 Thread Mitul Modi
Thank you sir for your quick reply. These links will be really helpful to get started. I will go through tutorials and try to use LyX as end user and also try to understand structure of LyX code base. I will try to solve few bugs and will reply you when I will be ready to go ahead. regards, Mitul

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

2014-02-27 Thread Prannoy Pilligundla
ᐧ stefano franchi wrote: > > > Well, pandoc handles LaTex already (although not very successfully in > > my tests. Management of citation, for instance leaves a lot to be > > desired), so all it's missing is a docx "reader" to make the > > back-conversion possible. > > > > That is, I understand pa

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

2014-02-27 Thread stefano franchi
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Scott Kostyshak wrote: > On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:39 AM, stefano franchi > wrote: > >> Correction after morning coffee: >> >> The needed modules would be: >> >> 1. a docx|odt reader module >> 2. (possibly) a LyX reader module >> >> No writer module would be nee

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

2014-02-27 Thread stefano franchi
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:39 AM, stefano franchi wrote: > On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:23 AM, stefano franchi > wrote: >> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Richard Heck wrote: >>> On 02/27/2014 03:44 AM, Prannoy Pilligundla wrote: I also had a look at pandoc and tex4ht but as they a

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

2014-02-27 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:39 AM, stefano franchi wrote: > Correction after morning coffee: > > The needed modules would be: > > 1. a docx|odt reader module > 2. (possibly) a LyX reader module > > No writer module would be needed, as pandoc has an extensive collection > already > > From Pandoc's

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

2014-02-27 Thread stefano franchi
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:23 AM, stefano franchi wrote: > On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Richard Heck wrote: >> On 02/27/2014 03:44 AM, Prannoy Pilligundla wrote: >>> >>> >>> I also had a look at pandoc and tex4ht but as they are converters from >>> Latex,i feel we should only consider them as

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

2014-02-27 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Richard Heck wrote: > The downside to any python-based approach, though, is that the LyX format is > a moving target. The script would need to be updated with every syntax > change. Or could just rely on lyx2lyx. Scott

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

2014-02-27 Thread stefano franchi
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Richard Heck wrote: > On 02/27/2014 03:44 AM, Prannoy Pilligundla wrote: >> >> >> I also had a look at pandoc and tex4ht but as they are converters from >> Latex,i feel we should only consider them as secondary options. > > > I believe pandoc is pretty modular. One

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

2014-02-27 Thread stefano franchi
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote: > I assume that in LyX, there is an API which could be used to convert > *independent* from > the file format? I don't assume they are exposed outside LyX so that > they can be accessed from e.g. python? I don't thinks that's the case. Tha

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

2014-02-27 Thread stefano franchi
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Richard Heck wrote: > On 02/27/2014 03:44 AM, Prannoy Pilligundla wrote: >> >> >> I also had a look at pandoc and tex4ht but as they are converters from >> Latex,i feel we should only consider them as secondary options. > > > I believe pandoc is pretty modular. One

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

2014-02-27 Thread stefano franchi
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 3:45 AM, Wilfried wrote: > Wilfried wrote: > >> Georg Baum wrote: >> >> > stefano franchi wrote: >> > >> AOO and LO help contain a comprehensive list of the formula sytax: >> in Help - Formulas - General Information - Math Features >> there is a hyperlink pointing to the r

Re: [GSOC 2014] - Implement 3-box drawing of insets

2014-02-27 Thread stefano franchi
Hi Mitul, Welcome to LyX! It's great to hear you're interested in participating in GSOC 2014 with us. First of all, are you familiar with LyX itself as a user? If not, I would recommend start using it, and perhaps going quickly through the tutorial. That will give you an idea of its general str

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

2014-02-27 Thread Rainer M Krug
Richard Heck writes: > On 02/27/2014 03:44 AM, Prannoy Pilligundla wrote: >> >> I also had a look at pandoc and tex4ht but as they are converters >> from Latex,i feel we should only consider them as secondary options. > > I believe pandoc is pretty modular. One would only need to add LyX to > the

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

2014-02-27 Thread Richard Heck
On 02/27/2014 03:44 AM, Prannoy Pilligundla wrote: I also had a look at pandoc and tex4ht but as they are converters from Latex,i feel we should only consider them as secondary options. I believe pandoc is pretty modular. One would only need to add LyX to the list of formats that it handles

Re: 2.1 release status

2014-02-27 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 26.02.2014 um 22:11 schrieb Georg Baum : > Richard Heck wrote: > >> On 02/26/2014 08:54 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: >>> 2014-02-26 14:12 GMT+01:00 Stephan Witt: >>> >>>I don't have a Mac OS X 10.9 retail version. >>> >>> >>> Given the importance of this task and the effort you invest

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

2014-02-27 Thread Wilfried
Wilfried wrote: > Georg Baum wrote: > > > stefano franchi wrote: > > > > > Also, I had a quick look at the equation editor for LibreOffice (the > > > LO's Math component accessible from Insert>>Object>>Formula). It seems > > > incredibly primitive. But perhaps it's just the interface that gives

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

2014-02-27 Thread Wilfried
Georg Baum wrote: > stefano franchi wrote: > > > Also, I had a quick look at the equation editor for LibreOffice (the > > LO's Math component accessible from Insert>>Object>>Formula). It seems > > incredibly primitive. But perhaps it's just the interface that gives > > that impression. Before I s

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

2014-02-27 Thread Rainer M Krug
Prannoy Pilligundla writes: > I have been following the discussion going on in this thread and have been > exploring Lyx at the same time.I understood how to integrate python scripts > into the editor and all but i have a some queries regarding the round trip > conversion > > Since we have someth

Re: [GSoC 2014]Interested in Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx formats

2014-02-27 Thread Prannoy Pilligundla
I have been following the discussion going on in this thread and have been exploring Lyx at the same time.I understood how to integrate python scripts into the editor and all but i have a some queries regarding the round trip conversion Since we have something like eLyxer which parses the Lyx form