Re: mathed AMS fonts

2002-02-05 Thread Jules Bean
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 10:10:40PM +0200, Dekel Tsur wrote: > On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 08:26:21PM +0100, Andre Poenitz wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 08:40:46PM +0200, Dekel Tsur wrote: > > > Comments ? (and can I do this before 1.2.0 ?) > > > > It would be nice if it worked. The new symbols a

Re: again: Umlauts in mathed [long]

2002-02-05 Thread Martin Vermeer
Apropos of this, the following comment patch. Please review. Martin Index: lyxfunc.C === RCS file: /cvs/lyx/lyx-devel/src/lyxfunc.C,v retrieving revision 1.288 diff -u -b -B -p -r1.288 lyxfunc.C --- lyxfunc.C 2002/01/20 23:17:1

list lag

2002-02-05 Thread Andre Poenitz
Has anybody else noticed lags of up to several hours for mail sent to the list? Andre' -- André Pönitz .. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: again: Umlauts in mathed [long]

2002-02-05 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 11:58:53PM +0100, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > | Wrong answer ;-) > > > | Being the academic you are, you should > | (a) wonder how something this simple can work this well, and > | (b) get angry why nobody steps in here to

Re: again: Umlauts in mathed

2002-02-05 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 07:32:45PM +0100, Herbert Voss wrote: > Thanks, it works :-) So since it seems to work and nobody explained why the current latinkeys.bind uses accents explicitly shouldn't we simply use this new latinkeys.bind? Andre' -- André Pönitz ...

Re: Delete myself?

2002-02-05 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 08:49:40PM +0100, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > | How can a FormulaInset (or FormulaMacroInset for that matter) 'delete > | itself' from the enclosing text? > > Why do you want that? To implement the reverse of 'convert marked text to math'. Nice for people jumping between

Re: Dreaming of plugins...

2002-02-05 Thread John Weiss
On Mon, Feb 04, 2002 at 04:55:07PM +0100, Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote: [snip] Boy, folks, he sure doesn't speak up much anymore, but when he does say something, he says a lot! ;) -- John Weiss

Graphics dialog: Bounding-box layout

2002-02-05 Thread R. Lahaye
Herbert Voss wrote: > > I tried these ones for the Bounding Box but after some time > I gave up and let it unchanged. Some other small changes, > especially the lyx-view folder were successful. Herbert, I've modified the Bounding-box-tab entry (see attachments). I believe this one is more intu

Re: LyX-Office ;-)

2002-02-05 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 10:54:58AM +0100, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: ... > | Personally I feel this is so practically useful that it should go in as > | soon as it is safe again (post-1.2.0pre1?). It is not a big patch and > | pretty self-contained. > > Not before 1.3 in my book. > > -- >

Re: again: Umlauts in mathed [long]

2002-02-05 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 07:32:45PM +0100, Herbert Voss wrote: > Martin Vermeer wrote: > > > If you \bind_file the attached file, after latinkeys.bind, you will > > find that the ö and other Umlaut keys will work again both inside > > and outside mathed. I.e., you can just type German. Even en

Re: Texinfo with genuine xforms tooltips

2002-02-05 Thread Angus Leeming
On Tuesday 05 February 2002 7:54 pm, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: > Great! I have proceeded myself and added help messages and a few > tooltips to the Citation and the Bibtex dialog. The patch features this > and the changes to Texinfo (including yours). > My english might be not perfect, the tip

Re: mathed AMS fonts

2002-02-05 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 08:26:21PM +0100, Andre Poenitz wrote: > On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 08:40:46PM +0200, Dekel Tsur wrote: > > Comments ? (and can I do this before 1.2.0 ?) > > It would be nice if it worked. The new symbols are a huge part of the user > visible changes to mathed and simply shou

Re: Texinfo with genuine xforms tooltips

2002-02-05 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Angus Leeming wrote: > Jürgen, > > it struck me that it was really lazy of me to not provide you with > genuine tooltips as well as the ability to print out a more verbose > method at the bottom of the screen. So, I've just committed a patch > to FormBase that gives us just that. These tooltips wi

Re: mathed AMS fonts

2002-02-05 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 08:40:46PM +0200, Dekel Tsur wrote: > Comments ? (and can I do this before 1.2.0 ?) It would be nice if it worked. The new symbols are a huge part of the user visible changes to mathed and simply should work. But wait for Lars ;-) Anayway: could you please explain once

Re: mathed AMS fonts

2002-02-05 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 06:49:11PM +, Angus Leeming wrote: > You may well now have some random rubbish in your font path. Use xset > -q to see what dirs you search and xset -fp rubbish_dir to remove. It works now but I tried similar things before *shrug* Thanks. Andre' -- André Pönitz ...

Re: mathed AMS fonts

2002-02-05 Thread Angus Leeming
On Tuesday 05 February 2002 6:40 pm, Andre Poenitz wrote: > On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 08:14:48PM +0200, Dekel Tsur wrote: > > The script only generates links for the fonts we are currently using. > > Should it be changed to create links for all fonts (which we might want to > > use in the future) ?

Re: mathed AMS fonts

2002-02-05 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 06:24:33PM +, Angus Leeming wrote: > Anyway, thanks for providing the HOWTO. Perhaps you might modify mathed.lyx > appropriately? I want to make the usage of these fonts fully automated. So what I think that what needs to be done is: 1) Run the ./create_fonts_dir scri

Re: mathed AMS fonts

2002-02-05 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 08:14:48PM +0200, Dekel Tsur wrote: > The script only generates links for the fonts we are currently using. > Should it be changed to create links for all fonts (which we might want to > use in the future) ? It should at least work in such a way that the proper symbols get

Re: again: Umlauts in mathed

2002-02-05 Thread Herbert Voss
Martin Vermeer wrote: > If you \bind_file the attached file, after latinkeys.bind, you will > find that the ö and other Umlaut keys will work again both inside > and outside mathed. I.e., you can just type German. Even entering > \textrm allows you to enter all German characters mixed with bla

Re: mathed AMS fonts

2002-02-05 Thread Angus Leeming
On Tuesday 05 February 2002 6:14 pm, Dekel Tsur wrote: > On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 05:58:46PM +, Angus Leeming wrote: > > On Tuesday 05 February 2002 5:49 pm, Dekel Tsur wrote: > > > ./create_fonts_dir > > > > doing that I discover: > > aleem@pneumon:lib-> ls fonts > > cmex10.pfb@ cmr10.pfb@

Re: [patch] graphics7.diff

2002-02-05 Thread Angus Leeming
On Tuesday 05 February 2002 6:13 pm, Herbert Voss wrote: > please apply. > > - deleting help-button > - make rotate similiar to subcaption > - LyXView-choice now radios like the one from pref > - changing some name to make things evident > - some cosmetics > - some small rearrangements > > With

Re: Graphics dialog: missing Apply button and Size layout

2002-02-05 Thread Herbert Voss
R. Lahaye wrote: > Martin Vermeer wrote: >> >>+-- Corner Coordinates (X,Y) ---+ >>| | >>| X Y _ | >>|( [___][pt] , [___][pt] ) | | >>| |_ ( [___][pt] , [___][pt] ) | >>|

Re: mathed AMS fonts

2002-02-05 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 05:58:46PM +, Angus Leeming wrote: > On Tuesday 05 February 2002 5:49 pm, Dekel Tsur wrote: > > ./create_fonts_dir > > doing that I discover: > aleem@pneumon:lib-> ls fonts > cmex10.pfb@ cmr10.pfb@eufm10.pfb@ fonts.scale msbm10.pfb@ > cmmi10.pfb@ cmsy10.pfb

[patch] graphics7.diff

2002-02-05 Thread Herbert Voss
please apply. - deleting help-button - make rotate similiar to subcaption - LyXView-choice now radios like the one from pref - changing some name to make things evident - some cosmetics - some small rearrangements With this patch the gui should be finished. Herbert -- http://www.lyx.org/help/

Re: mathed AMS fonts

2002-02-05 Thread Angus Leeming
On Tuesday 05 February 2002 5:49 pm, Dekel Tsur wrote: > ./create_fonts_dir doing that I discover: aleem@pneumon:lib-> ls fonts cmex10.pfb@ cmr10.pfb@eufm10.pfb@ fonts.scale msbm10.pfb@ cmmi10.pfb@ cmsy10.pfb@ fonts.dir msam10.pfb@ whilst the directory I created way back when h

Delete myself?

2002-02-05 Thread Andre Poenitz
How can a FormulaInset (or FormulaMacroInset for that matter) 'delete itself' from the enclosing text? Andre' -- André Pönitz .. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: mathed AMS fonts

2002-02-05 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 06:37:29PM +0100, Andre Poenitz wrote: > On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 05:17:56PM +, Angus Leeming wrote: > > Me neither. I haven't been able to since this happened (below). I assume that > > things aren't working because I haven't made the equivalent changes in > > font.di

Re: mathed AMS fonts

2002-02-05 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 05:17:56PM +, Angus Leeming wrote: > Me neither. I haven't been able to since this happened (below). I assume that > things aren't working because I haven't made the equivalent changes in > font.dir Hm. So what's the right thing now? It works again, if I revert Dek

Texinfo with genuine xforms tooltips

2002-02-05 Thread Angus Leeming
Jürgen, it struck me that it was really lazy of me to not provide you with genuine tooltips as well as the ability to print out a more verbose method at the bottom of the screen. So, I've just committed a patch to FormBase that gives us just that. These tooltips will work with either xforms 0.

Re: mathed AMS fonts

2002-02-05 Thread Angus Leeming
On Tuesday 05 February 2002 5:03 pm, Andre Poenitz wrote: > Are they still working? > > I can't get the AMS 'chars' displayed anymore. > > Andre' Me neither. I haven't been able to since this happened (below). I assume that things aren't working because I haven't made the equivalent changes in

mathed AMS fonts

2002-02-05 Thread Andre Poenitz
Are they still working? I can't get the AMS 'chars' displayed anymore. Andre' -- André Pönitz .. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Should I try the "ld -r" again now?

2002-02-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> Oh the abi is better, the library is better but it is not fully Lars> templatized as the standard says, and that helps with the large Lars> object files. Of course I also compile with rtti and Lars> exceptions... It is a bit l

Re: Should I try the "ld -r" again now?

2002-02-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> GCC 3.0.3 creates huge object files when compiled with -g I thought it was supposed to be the graal of C++ compilers. I remember reading about the new, more compact ABI... Lars> but still you have a ~40MB reduction. Agreed.

Re: Should I try the "ld -r" again now?

2002-02-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> Not more? Was this the latest patch? I saved 120MB in my build Lars> dir. Out of how much? Lars> I have no idea on how we can avoid the warnings. Lars> And as you can see the stuff in frontends is not very nice, it Lars> is

Re: Should I try the "ld -r" again now?

2002-02-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> This patch reduces the disk usage by about 120MB in my build Lars> dirs: I see a much smaller decrease... (gcc 2.96.something): compile timedu -s without patch 35'40'' 208532 with

Re: Patch ;-)

2002-02-05 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 05:57:32PM +0200, Martin Vermeer wrote: > Index: CREDITS Commited. Andre' -- André Pönitz .. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Patch ;-)

2002-02-05 Thread Martin Vermeer
-- Martin Index: CREDITS === RCS file: /cvs/lyx/lyx-devel/lib/CREDITS,v retrieving revision 1.22 diff -u -b -B -p -r1.22 CREDITS --- CREDITS 2001/11/27 15:13:39 1.22 +++ CREDITS 2002/02/05 15:32:44 @@ -245,7 +245,7 @@

Re: [PATCH] Help vs. Tooltips: something to discuss

2002-02-05 Thread John Levon
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 02:42:29PM +0100, Herbert Voss wrote: > while (true) { > my position is not important for me, only the ones from > the users... > } unfortunately we as developers have to second-guess what the users as a whole want, and come up with good compromises. In particular mot

Re: [PATCH] Help vs. Tooltips: something to discuss

2002-02-05 Thread John Levon
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 01:23:50PM +, Angus Leeming wrote: > It seems like you are in a minority of one here, Herbert. Here's my take on > it: I partly agree with Herbert - there is room for intermediate online help. But this should remain short and to the point. WhatsThis context sensiti

Re: [PATCH] Help vs. Tooltips: something to discuss

2002-02-05 Thread John Levon
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 01:54:08PM +0100, Herbert Voss wrote: > toolstips are one thing, every application has it more or > less. They are okay, but you are _very_ limited in the > length! The help-button gives you a help whuch is more than > a tip, it explains some important interaction which th

Re: 1.2.0pre1 Bug list

2002-02-05 Thread Jürgen Vigna
>> Description: Pasting from ERT retains latex/color etc. URL: >> http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143 Severity: critical > > John> wait till juergen has a moment again ... > Juergen said recently that this one should be applied. Yes I just sent it to the list so that maybe you and Lars co

Re: Graphics dialog: missing Apply button and Size layout

2002-02-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "R" == R Lahaye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: R> PS: how do you select another tab in a tabbed dialog without using R> the mouse? You can't. However, it _is_ possible to add shortcuts to tabs in xofmrs, but we did not do it yet. JMarc

Re: [PATCH] Help vs. Tooltips: something to discuss

2002-02-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "R" == R Lahaye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: R> Much better would be if a context sensitive help would open a R> documentation file and jump to the right spot automagically. A R> "Context Sensitive Help" entry under the help button could do that. That's what I proposed with some labels adde

Re: [PATCH] Help vs. Tooltips: something to discuss

2002-02-05 Thread Angus Leeming
On Tuesday 05 February 2002 1:44 pm, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: > Angus Leeming wrote: > > However, rather than define C_FormTexinfoFeedbackCB, setPreHandler, > > feedbackCB for every class, you should make these methods part of the > > FormBase collection of functions. Then the derived classes w

Re: Graphics dialog: missing Apply button and Size layout

2002-02-05 Thread R. Lahaye
Herbert Voss wrote: > > the problem is, that there are some users who are not > willing to use the mouse. And xforms doesn't allow > reaching nontextfields with the tabular key. So every > inputfield needs a label with a shortcut. Makes things > a bit ugly ... Currently, in some cases, the Tab-k

Bug 221: fixed?

2002-02-05 Thread Martin Vermeer
"Paste of figure float causes crash" I don't get the test case to crash (CVS of perhaps half an hour ago) So is it fixed, or should we have a better test case? -- Martin msg32500/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [PATCH] Help vs. Tooltips: something to discuss

2002-02-05 Thread R. Lahaye
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Knowing in which forms online help should be given is definitely a > question of design, yes. It is a matter of user knowing immediately > how to get help in a dialog. Presently there is a problem if you quickly want to be remembered how a certain feature works. Ope

Re: Graphics dialog: missing Apply button and Size layout

2002-02-05 Thread Herbert Voss
R. Lahaye wrote: >>> >>>+-- Coordinates (X,Y) --+ >>>| | >>>| X Y | >>>| Left Bottom ( [___][pt] , [___][pt] ) | >>>| Right Top ( [___][pt] , [___][pt] ) | >>>|

Re: [PATCH] Help vs. Tooltips: something to discuss

2002-02-05 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Herbert Voss wrote: > I never said that in all cases the help files are better than > tooltips. And I never said that every gui needs a help button. > But I said that the tabular-, the graphic-, the preferences-, > a.s.o should have one. > And don't tell me, that tooltips are really enough help in

Re: LyX 1.1.6fix4 crash on Solaris 8 sparc

2002-02-05 Thread Jenny Holmberg
> "Jean-Marc" == Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Jenny" == Jenny Holmberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jenny> LyX on my sparc running Solaris 8 crashes when I try to load an Jenny> existing document or create a new one. The format of the file Jenny> I'm trying to read m

Re: [PATCH] Help vs. Tooltips: something to discuss

2002-02-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Herbert" == Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> A good help system is really needed, but I have to say I am not >> sure your solution is a good help system. Herbert> while (true) { my position is not important for me, only the Herbert> ones from the users... } ... as long as you

Re: [PATCH] Help vs. Tooltips: something to discuss

2002-02-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> [Hint] here is one: the tooltips are not accessible with the mouse >> (I'm not sure this matters much, though). Angus> What d'ya mean? Sure they are. Have you ever moved your mouse Angus> over the preferences dialog? I meant _without

Re: [PATCH] Help vs. Tooltips: something to discuss

2002-02-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Herbert" == Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> So you say we should implement both and let people select one from >> prefs? Yuck! Herbert> cool conclusion ... the users can say: the help-buttons in Herbert> _some_ of the guis are very fine (do more) or totally Herbert> bullshit (

Re: [PATCH] Help vs. Tooltips: something to discuss

2002-02-05 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Angus Leeming wrote: > However, rather than define C_FormTexinfoFeedbackCB, setPreHandler, > feedbackCB for every class, you should make these methods part of the > FormBase collection of functions. Then the derived classes will need > only to override the virtual method Angus, can you give me a

Re: [PATCH] Help vs. Tooltips: something to discuss

2002-02-05 Thread Herbert Voss
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >>"Herbert" == Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > > Herbert> Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: > >>>Developers have to decide what is good and bad ui-design. >>> > > Herbert> you are kidding, or do you want to tell me, that one button > Herbert> is a qu

Re: [PATCH] Help vs. Tooltips: something to discuss

2002-02-05 Thread Angus Leeming
On Tuesday 05 February 2002 1:31 pm, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Herbert" == Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Herbert> Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: > >> Developers have to decide what is good and bad ui-design. > > Herbert> you are kidding, or do you want to tell me, that one

Re: [PATCH] Help vs. Tooltips: something to discuss

2002-02-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Herbert" == Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Herbert> Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: >> Developers have to decide what is good and bad ui-design. Herbert> you are kidding, or do you want to tell me, that one button Herbert> is a question of design ... Knowing in which forms online h

Re: CVS compile error - mathed

2002-02-05 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 02:22:58PM +0100, Herbert Voss wrote: > math_factory.C:26: math_xarrowinset.h: No such file or directory > math_factory.C:27: math_xymatrixinset.h: No such file or directory I forgot to 'cvs add' the files. Please try again. Andre' -- André Pönitz ..

Re: [PATCH] Help vs. Tooltips: something to discuss

2002-02-05 Thread Angus Leeming
On Tuesday 05 February 2002 1:13 pm, Herbert Voss wrote: > Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: > > > Developers have to decide what is good and bad ui-design. > > > you are kidding, or do you want to tell me, that one button > is a question of design ... > > > No one besides you knows better what user

CVS compile error - mathed

2002-02-05 Thread Herbert Voss
Andre ?? math_factory.C:26: math_xarrowinset.h: No such file or directory math_factory.C:27: math_xymatrixinset.h: No such file or directory Herbert -- http://www.lyx.org/help/

Re: [PATCH] Help vs. Tooltips: something to discuss

2002-02-05 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Herbert Voss wrote: > > Developers have to decide what is good and bad ui-design. > > you are kidding, or do you want to tell me, that one button > is a question of design ... It is of course not the button. It is the approach. But I think you know this. Juergen.

Re: can't type a zoom% in

2002-02-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Angus> Seriously, the counters all have single-click/per decrement Angus> functionality. I think that you dreamed the complaint. Not sure, there is some autorepeat going on too. JMarc

Re: can't type a zoom% in

2002-02-05 Thread Angus Leeming
On Tuesday 05 February 2002 1:06 pm, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Angus> That you couldn't type the desired value into it and had to use > Angus> the mouse. > > I thought somebody had been complaining that the arrows were too > fast

Re: [PATCH] Help vs. Tooltips: something to discuss

2002-02-05 Thread Herbert Voss
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: > Developers have to decide what is good and bad ui-design. you are kidding, or do you want to tell me, that one button is a question of design ... > No one besides you knows better what users want when it comes to help. aha ... > But UI-design is a thing that i

Re: [PATCH] Help vs. Tooltips: something to discuss

2002-02-05 Thread Herbert Voss
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > Herbert> This is _absolutely_ user-dependent and it will be the best > Herbert> way to let them decide which is more or less helpful! > > So you say we should implement both and let people select one from > prefs? Yuck! cool conclusion ... the users can say: th

Re: [PATCH] Help vs. Tooltips: something to discuss

2002-02-05 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Herbert Voss wrote: > toolstips are one thing, every application has it more or > less. They are okay, but you are _very_ limited in the > length! The help-button gives you a help whuch is more than > a tip, it explains some important interaction which the toolstips > can't. The next step are the

Re: can't type a zoom% in

2002-02-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Angus> That you couldn't type the desired value into it and had to use Angus> the mouse. I thought somebody had been complaining that the arrows were too fast... I may be dreaming (I have to admit I'm only pretending to be awake today).

Re: can't type a zoom% in

2002-02-05 Thread Angus Leeming
On Tuesday 05 February 2002 12:56 pm, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> So I won this round? > > Angus> Absolutely not. I'm happy with things as they are. If someone > Angus> wants to change them, then they should feel free to have a

Re: [PATCH] Help vs. Tooltips: something to discuss

2002-02-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Herbert" == Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Herbert> toolstips are one thing, every application has it more or Herbert> less. They are okay, but you are _very_ limited in the Herbert> length! The help-button gives you a help whuch is more than a Herbert> tip, it explains some impo

Re: can't type a zoom% in

2002-02-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> So I won this round? Angus> Absolutely not. I'm happy with things as they are. If someone Angus> wants to change them, then they should feel free to have a go. Hmm, what was the problem with this counter? JMarc

Re: [PATCH] Help vs. Tooltips: something to discuss

2002-02-05 Thread Herbert Voss
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: > IMHO a context sensitive help ("tooltips" like we have in preferences) > is much clearer than a help button, which opens another dialog > containing nothing else than (non-context-sensitive) tooltips. > > So I propose to replace the help stuff by context sensitive

Re: can't type a zoom% in

2002-02-05 Thread Angus Leeming
On Tuesday 05 February 2002 12:28 pm, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Angus> But I have just learnt in my french class how to say «Va t'en». > Angus> Not sure about it's strength of course... > > Probably as strong as 'go away!'. > >

Re: [PATCH] Help vs. Tooltips: something to discuss

2002-02-05 Thread Angus Leeming
On Tuesday 05 February 2002 11:28 am, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: > IMHO a context sensitive help ("tooltips" like we have in preferences) > is much clearer than a help button, which opens another dialog > containing nothing else than (non-context-sensitive) tooltips. > > So I propose to replac

Re: can't type a zoom% in

2002-02-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Angus> But I have just learnt in my french class how to say «Va t'en». Angus> Not sure about it's strength of course... Probably as strong as 'go away!'. So I won this round? JMarc

Re: can't type a zoom% in

2002-02-05 Thread Angus Leeming
On Tuesday 05 February 2002 9:45 am, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Angus> Moreover, you now are a proud parent yourself. Old enough to > Angus> know that parent's advice is to be ignored when appropriate ;-) > > For some unknown reas

[PATCH] Help vs. Tooltips: something to discuss

2002-02-05 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
IMHO a context sensitive help ("tooltips" like we have in preferences) is much clearer than a help button, which opens another dialog containing nothing else than (non-context-sensitive) tooltips. So I propose to replace the help stuff by context sensitive hints. The attached patch does this f

Re: LyX 1.1.6fix4 crash on Solaris 8 sparc

2002-02-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Jenny" == Jenny Holmberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jenny> LyX on my sparc running Solaris 8 crashes when I try to load an Jenny> existing document or create a new one. The format of the file Jenny> I'm trying to read makes no difference. I've checked both Jenny> bugzilla.lyx.org and the

Re: can't type a zoom% in

2002-02-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Angus> Moreover, you now are a proud parent yourself. Old enough to Angus> know that parent's advice is to be ignored when appropriate ;-) For some unknown reason, I don't like to hack UI. Maybe something bad that happened in my childhoo

Re: LyX-Office ;-)

2002-02-05 Thread Rainer Dorsch
Hello, having spreadsheet support is a very good idea, but is it not possible to embed gnumeric or kspread? Thanks. Rainer. > On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 04:55:53PM +0200, Martin Vermeer wrote: > > ... > > > Attached a patch that adds spreadsheet functionality to the tabular. > > Doesn't work

Re: [Patch] Graphics dialog

2002-02-05 Thread Angus Leeming
On Monday 04 February 2002 6:01 pm, Herbert Voss wrote: > This should be my last major patch for the gui. I always miss some > more discussion from the others about the sense of all these options. > Or of still missing ones. > This patch does > apply button, scale for LyXView, finishing handle of

Re: LyX-Office ;-)

2002-02-05 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 04:55:53PM +0200, Martin Vermeer wrote: ... > Attached a patch that adds spreadsheet functionality to the tabular. > Doesn't work very well yet and is obviously limited. But if you like > this kind of thing, give it a swirl. Here an improved version. The widgets are now

Re: can't type a zoom% in

2002-02-05 Thread Angus Leeming
On Tuesday 05 February 2002 9:19 am, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Angus> On Monday 04 February 2002 5:03 pm, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > >> > "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > Angus> You did. Unfortun

Re: Graphics dialog: missing Apply button and Size layout

2002-02-05 Thread R. Lahaye
Martin Vermeer wrote: > > Yes but, yes but... it is strange to see a reference to "Bottom" (or > "lower" appear *above* a reference to "Top" (or upper). And mathematicians > are a vanishingly small minority of mankind ;-) > > My modest, more visual proposal: > > +-- Corner Coordinates (

Re: Should I try the "ld -r" again now?

2002-02-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> Hmm... without -g it should be a bit more than 13MB ? I guess he is comparing two builds without -g. JMarc

Re: can't type a zoom% in

2002-02-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Angus> On Monday 04 February 2002 5:03 pm, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> > "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Angus> You did. Unfortunately for you, this "zoom" is a built-in Angus> xforms widget and we aren't l

Re: Graphics dialog: missing Apply button and Size layout

2002-02-05 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 09:08:17AM +0100, Herbert Voss wrote: > R. Lahaye wrote: > > >>>+-- Coordinates (X,Y) --+ > >>>| | > >>>| X Y | > >>>| Left Bottom ( [___][pt] , [___][pt] ) | > >>>

Re: again: Umlauts in mathed

2002-02-05 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 10:50:18AM +0200, Martin Vermeer wrote: > As this file effectively overrides the definitions in latinkeys.bind, > this begs the following *question*: > > Why are the accented keys all defined as accent + base-letter anyway? > The only reason I can think of, is

Re: Graphics dialog: missing Apply button and Size layout

2002-02-05 Thread R. Lahaye
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: > > R. Lahaye wrote: > > where "Show:" is one of the items in the selection, but it's in a > > very special bolt font with white filling and a box drawn around > > it This "Show:" should be removed from the selection list, if we > > keep this selection style. > > XFor

Re: again: Umlauts in mathed

2002-02-05 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Mon, Feb 04, 2002 at 11:01:54PM +0100, Herbert Voss wrote: > > When I insert with a texteditor something like > > \textrm{größer} > > in a mathinset in a lyxfile, LyX reads this very well > and shows correct the umlaut ö in roman. Seems to be very > easy, but not from the keyboard??? > > He

Re: Graphics dialog: missing Apply button and Size layout

2002-02-05 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
R. Lahaye wrote: > where "Show:" is one of the items in the selection, but it's in a > very special bolt font with white filling and a box drawn around > it This "Show:" should be removed from the selection list, if we > keep this selection style. XForms takes the label of a choice and generates

Re: paragraph skip

2002-02-05 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 09:13:54AM +0100, Herbert Voss wrote: > layout->document->(lower left) Duh... thank you. Andre' -- André Pönitz .. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Graphics dialog: missing Apply button and Size layout

2002-02-05 Thread R. Lahaye
Herbert Voss wrote: > > right, but the mathematicians look always from left to right > and therefore the real names are lower left and upper right. > Maybe better to choose these ones? I myself like the "Left Bottom" and "Right Top"; sounds more natural to me. But I believe we've reached the le