Re: Uncle Sam Wants YOU!

2001-07-02 Thread James A . Sutherland
On Sun, 1 Jul 2001 20:19:07 -0500 Mon, 2 Jul 01 12:25:43 BST, you wrote: >- Original Message - >From: "William T Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> On Sun, 1 Jul 2001, Ben Ford wrote: >> >> > This seems to be meant as a joke, but I don't think it's all that >unlikely. >> > >> > I seem to reca

Re: [PATCH] Prevent OOM from killing init

2001-03-23 Thread James A. Sutherland
On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Guest section DW wrote: > On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 08:48:54PM -0300, Rik van Riel wrote: > > On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Patrick O'Rourke wrote: > > > > Since the system will panic if the init process is chosen by > > > the OOM killer, the following patch prevents select_bad_process()

Re: [PATCH] Prevent OOM from killing init

2001-03-22 Thread James A. Sutherland
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Rik van Riel wrote: > On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Patrick O'Rourke wrote: > > > Since the system will panic if the init process is chosen by > > the OOM killer, the following patch prevents select_bad_process() > > from picking init. > > One question ... has the OOM killer ever sele

Re: new generic content schemes popping up everywhere...

2001-03-13 Thread James A. Sutherland
On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Thomas Dodd wrote: > Andre Hedrick wrote: > > >From siliconvalley.com's GMSV column today: > >self-destruct if it's tampered with. The utility is enabled > >with 11 layers of security defenses, all of which must be > >successfully navigated to disable the system.

Re: [OT] Re: Microsoft begining to open source Windows 2000?

2001-03-08 Thread James A. Sutherland
On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Stuart MacDonald wrote: > From: "Venkatesh Ramamurthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > http://www.zdnet.com/enterprise/stories/main/0,10228,2692987,00.html > > "As such, clients will not be allowed to alter the code in any form and > may not give any other party access to any aspect o

RE: Microsoft begining to open source Windows 2000?

2001-03-08 Thread James A. Sutherland
On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Anton Altaparmakov wrote: > At 16:04 08/03/01, Venkatesh Ramamurthy wrote: > >My initial thought after seeing this article was that microsoft was testing > >its waters on open sourcing. If i have 1500 licenses then i would get the > >source. If i find any bug in thier source ,

Re: Microsoft ZERO Sector Virus, Result of Taskfile WAR

2001-03-06 Thread James A. Sutherland
On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Andre Hedrick wrote: > On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Jens Axboe wrote: > > > But I might want to do this (write sector 0), why would we want > > to filter that? If someone a) uses an email client that will execute > > java script code (or whatever) and b) runs that as root (which > > he

Re: binfmt_script and ^M

2001-03-06 Thread James A. Sutherland
On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Sean Hunter wrote: > > I propose > >/proc/sys/kernel/im_too_lame_to_learn_how_to_use_the_most_basic_of_unix_tools_so_i_want_the_kernel_to_be_filled_with_crap_to_disguise_my_ineptitude > > Any support? Hrm - make it part of the "fscking_moron" subsystem. /proc/sys/kernel/fsc

Re: my first post to the list - newbie alert

2001-03-03 Thread James A. Sutherland
On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, bert hubert wrote: > On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 11:52:22AM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > > is there a more suitable mailing list for me to sign up for? debian has a > > mailing list both for package maintainers and those who are trying to learn > > how to be package mainta

Re: Unmounting and ejecting the root fs on shutdown.

2001-02-28 Thread James A. Sutherland
On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Mr. James W. Laferriere wrote: > > Hello James , Yup that works alright . But the difficulty > Per & I were talking about is after the system (such as > slackware's live-fs) is -shutdown- the CD drive bay is still > locked , One has to hard-reset (o

Re: Unmounting and ejecting the root fs on shutdown.

2001-02-28 Thread James A. Sutherland
On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Mr. James W. Laferriere wrote: > > Hello Per , Has anyone gotten back to you on this subject ? > I as well am very interested in any information about releiving > this difficulty . Tia , JimL Such a CD would be very nice; one or two people do have this a

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread James A. Sutherland
On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, Michael Bacarella wrote: > On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 02:38:29PM -0500, Dennis wrote: > > >It's not about facts, it's not about the truth, it's not about Jim > > >Allchin being an idiot or deluded. It's about propaganda, > > >misinformation, and marketing. It's about business. N

Re: Linux stifles innovation...

2001-02-17 Thread James A. Sutherland
On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, Dennis wrote: > At 07:01 PM 02/16/2001, Alan Olsen wrote: > >On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Dennis wrote: > > > > > There is much truth to the concept, although Microsoft should not be ones > > > to comment on it as such. > > > >What truth? I have seen more "innovation" in the Open So

Re: high load & poor interactivity on fast thread creation

2000-11-30 Thread James A Sutherland
On Thu, 30 Nov 2000, Arnaud Installe wrote: > On Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 08:47:49AM -0600, Ray Bryant wrote: > > The IBM implementations of the Java language use native threads -- > > the result is that every time you do a Java thread creation, you > > end up with a new cloned process. Now this shou

Re: Fasttrak100 questions...

2000-11-29 Thread James A Sutherland
On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, Andre Hedrick wrote: > On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, Alan Cox wrote: > > > > You are wrong: If you modify the kernel you have to make it available for > > > anyone who wishes to use it; that's also in the GPL. You can't add stuff > > > > No it isnt. Some people seem to think it is. Y

Re: IDE-SCSI/HPT366 Problem

2000-11-29 Thread James A Sutherland
On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, Kurt Garloff wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 01:06:16PM -0600, --Damacus Porteng-- wrote: > > Problem: > > The problem lies with using my EIDE CDRW - I set it up properly using > > IDE-SCSI. I can use my mp3tocdda shell script to encode mp3s to CD > > (uses cd

Re: [PATCH] removal of "static foo = 0"

2000-11-25 Thread James A Sutherland
On Sat, 25 Nov 2000, Tim Waugh wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 25, 2000 at 10:53:00PM +, James A Sutherland wrote: > > > Which is silly. The variable is explicitly defined to be zero > > anyway, whether you put this in your code or not. > > Why doesn't the compil

Re: [PATCH] removal of "static foo = 0"

2000-11-25 Thread James A Sutherland
On Sat, 25 Nov 2000, Andries Brouwer wrote: > On Sun, Nov 26, 2000 at 09:11:18AM +1100, Herbert Xu wrote: > > > No information is lost. > > Do I explain things so badly? Let me try again. > The difference between > > static int a; > > and > > static int a = 0; > > is the " = 0". The comp

Re: ECN causing problems

2000-11-22 Thread James A Sutherland
On Wed, 22 Nov 2000, Joseph Gooch wrote: > My RaptorNT 6.5 firewall rejects all connections from my linux box when ECN > is enabled. The error is attached. Perhaps this feature should be disabled > by default? Or is there already an option of the sort that i'm missing? I > only got the idea to

Re: XMMS not working on 2.4.0-test11-pre7

2000-11-19 Thread James A . Sutherland
On Sun, 19 Nov 2000, David Ford wrote: > > My guess is that it's a plugin, the source for xmms doesn't have "cpuinfo" anywhere >in it. > > -d > > Gianluca Anzolin wrote: > > > it seems there has been a change in the format of the /proc/cpuinfo file: infact >'flags: ' became 'features: ' > >

Re: Dual XEON - >>SLOW<< on SMP

2000-11-13 Thread James A . Sutherland
On Mon, 13 Nov 2000, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: > On Sat, Nov 11, 2000 at 08:26:55PM +0100, Marc Lehmann wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 04:03:25PM -0700, "Jeff V. Merkey" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Marc Lehman verified that PII systems will generate tons of AGIs with > > > gcc. > >

Re: bzImage ~ 900K with i386 test11-pre2

2000-11-11 Thread James A . Sutherland
On Sat, 11 Nov 2000, Max Inux wrote: > >gzip, actually. I can verify here "make bzImage" does the expected thing > >and it looks normal-sized to me. > > I believe there is zImage (gzip) and bzImage (bzip2). (Or is it compress > vs gzip, but then why bzImage vs gzImage?) Neither. They are both c

Re: Installing kernel 2.4

2000-11-09 Thread James A . Sutherland
On Thu, 09 Nov 2000, David Woodhouse wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > I think a default whereby the kernel built will run on any > > Linux-capable machine of that architecture would be sensible - so if I > > grab the 2.4.0t10 tarball and build it now, with no changes, I'll be > > able to boot

Re: Installing kernel 2.4

2000-11-08 Thread James A . Sutherland
On Wed, 08 Nov 2000, George Anzinger wrote: > "James A. Sutherland" wrote: > > > > On Wed, 08 Nov 2000, George Anzinger wrote: > > > But, here the customer did run the configure code (he said he did not > > > change anything). Isn't this where the

Re: Installing kernel 2.4

2000-11-08 Thread James A . Sutherland
On Wed, 08 Nov 2000, George Anzinger wrote: > But, here the customer did run the configure code (he said he did not > change anything). Isn't this where the machine should be diagnosed and > the right options chosen? Need a way to say it is a cross build, but > that shouldn't be too hard. Why d

Re: Installing kernel 2.4

2000-11-08 Thread James A . Sutherland
On Wed, 08 Nov 2000, Horst von Brand wrote: > "Jeff V. Merkey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > [...] > > > Your way out in the weeds. What started this thread was a customer who > > ended up loading the wrong arch on a system and hanging. I have to > > post a kernel RPM for our release, and it's

Re: Persistent module storage [was Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page]

2000-11-07 Thread James A . Sutherland
On Tue, 07 Nov 2000, Alan Cox wrote: > > In the NIC example, I might well want the DHCP client to run whenever I > > activate the card. Bringing the NIC up with the old configuration - which, with > > dynamic IP addresses, could now include someone else's IP address! - is worse > > than useless. >

Re: Persistent module storage [was Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page]

2000-11-07 Thread James A . Sutherland
On Tue, 07 Nov 2000, Alan Cox wrote: > > When I plug it in and modprobe is triggered to load the driver, a script then > > runs to feed the device appropriate configuration info. Since the driver only > > resets the hardware when it is given the correct configuration, there's no > > problem. > >

Re: Persistent module storage [was Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page]

2000-11-07 Thread James A . Sutherland
On Mon, 06 Nov 2000, Horst von Brand wrote: > "James A. Sutherland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > On Mon, 06 Nov 2000, Horst von Brand wrote: > > [...] > > > > The problem (AFAIU) is that if the levels aren't set on startup, they are > >

Re: Persistent module storage [was Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page]

2000-11-07 Thread James A . Sutherland
On Tue, 07 Nov 2000, Gerhard Mack wrote: > > Then none of this is relevant to you, since you can't unload any modules! And > > now you're the one doing the trolling... WTF do you think module code is > > supposed to do when you don't use modules?! > > > > Simple ... I'd rather the hardware was s

Re: Persistent module storage [was Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page]

2000-11-06 Thread James A . Sutherland
On Tue, 07 Nov 2000, Gerhard Mack wrote: > On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, James A. Sutherland wrote: > > > On Mon, 06 Nov 2000, Gerhard Mack wrote: > > > Sure .. lets see you start a laptop in class or buisness meeting and have > > > everyone turn to look at you wondering

Re: Persistent module storage [was Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page]

2000-11-06 Thread James A . Sutherland
On Tue, 07 Nov 2000, Alan Cox wrote: > > changing settings. If I plug in a hotplug soundcard and load the driver, I do > > NOT want the driver to decide to set some settings. If I want settings set, > > I'll do it myself (or have a script to do it). > > How about if your stuff is already nicely s

Re: Persistent module storage [was Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page]

2000-11-06 Thread James A . Sutherland
On Mon, 06 Nov 2000, Gerhard Mack wrote: > On Mon, 6 Nov 2000, James A. Sutherland wrote: > > > Except this isn't possible with the hardware in question! If it were, there > > would be no problem. In cases where the hardware doesn't support the > > functional

Re: Persistent module storage [was Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page]

2000-11-06 Thread James A . Sutherland
On Mon, 06 Nov 2000, Evan Jeffrey wrote: > > On Mon, 06 Nov 2000, David Woodhouse wrote: > > > > > > No. You have to reset the hardware fully each time you load the module. > > > Although you _expect_ it to be in the state in which you left it, you can't > > > > > be sure of that. > > > > If

Re: Persistent module storage [was Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page]

2000-11-06 Thread James A . Sutherland
On Mon, 06 Nov 2000, Dan Hollis wrote: > On Mon, 6 Nov 2000, James A. Sutherland wrote: > > So autoload the module with a "dont_screw_with_mixer" option. When the kernel > > first boots, initialise the mixer to suitable settings (load the module with > > &q

Re: Persistent module storage [was Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page]

2000-11-06 Thread James A . Sutherland
On Mon, 06 Nov 2000, David Woodhouse wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > Except this isn't possible with the hardware in question! If it were, > > there would be no problem. In cases where the hardware doesn't support > > the functionality userspace "needs", why put the kludge in the kernel? >

Re: Persistent module storage [was Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page]

2000-11-06 Thread James A . Sutherland
On Mon, 06 Nov 2000, David Woodhouse wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > So set them on startup. NOT when the driver is first loaded. Put it > > in the rc.d scripts. > > No. You should initialise the hardware completely when the driver is > reloaded. Although the expected case is that the lev

Re: Persistent module storage [was Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page]

2000-11-06 Thread James A . Sutherland
On Mon, 06 Nov 2000, Alan Cox wrote: > > So autoload the module with a "dont_screw_with_mixer" option. When the kernel > > first boots, initialise the mixer to suitable settings (load the module with > > "do_screw_with_mixer" or whatever); thereafter, the driver shouldn't change > > the mixer set

Re: Persistent module storage [was Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page]

2000-11-06 Thread James A . Sutherland
On Mon, 06 Nov 2000, David Woodhouse wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > Yippee. As we all know, implementing GUI volume controls and putting > > the slider in the right place is a kernel function, and nothing to do > > with userspace... > > Don't troll, James. The kernel needs to provide the

Re: Persistent module storage [was Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page]

2000-11-06 Thread James A . Sutherland
On Mon, 06 Nov 2000, Horst von Brand wrote: > [Chopped down Cc: list] > "James A. Sutherland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > On Mon, 06 Nov 2000, David Woodhouse wrote: > > [...] > > > > It does not know them. Correct. But with persistent module stor

Re: Persistent module storage [was Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page]

2000-11-06 Thread James A . Sutherland
On Mon, 06 Nov 2000, David Woodhouse wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > Irrelevant. The current mixer settings don't matter: what matters is > > that the driver does not change them. > > It does matter. The sound driver needs to be able to _read_ the current > levels. So do so. That's a hard

Re: Persistent module storage [was Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page]

2000-11-06 Thread James A . Sutherland
On Mon, 06 Nov 2000, David Woodhouse wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > So autoload the module with a "dont_screw_with_mixer" option. When > > the kernel first boots, initialise the mixer to suitable settings > > (load the module with "do_screw_with_mixer" or whatever); thereafter, > > the dri

Re: [PATCH] document ECN in 2.4 Configure.help

2000-11-06 Thread James A . Sutherland
On Mon, 06 Nov 2000, Andi Kleen wrote: > On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 11:02:47AM +, Alan Cox wrote: > > >with the TCP ECN_ECHO and CWR flags set, to indicate > > >ECN-capability, then the sender should send its second > > >SYN packet without these flags set. This is because

Re: Persistent module storage [was Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page]

2000-11-06 Thread James A . Sutherland
On Mon, 06 Nov 2000, David Woodhouse wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > > * User continues to happily listen to radio through sound card > > You're using the sound card without a driver? > > Yes. The sound card allows itself to be unloaded when the pass-through mixer > levels are non-zero. This