Re: RMS Dinner

2003-01-09 Thread Uri Bruck
http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasite/pages/ShArtPE.jhtml?itemNo=247510&contrassID=2&subContrassID=13&sbSubContrassID=0 I couldn't find it in the English version of haaretz On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Shaul Karl wrote: > > 1. http://www.haaretz.co.il. > 2. Click near the upper left most corner for the Engli

PostgreSQL site survive hard time :)

2003-01-09 Thread Boulgakov Andrei
Title: PostgreSQL site survive hard time :) Look at http://www.postgresql.org/ Boulgakov Andrei

Re: IBM lecture(s) rant

2003-01-09 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Muli Ben-Yehuda, from the post of Thu, 09 Jan: > Again, the Haifa event has been slated from the beginning as > technical, while the TAU event has been slated as > "marketing/introductory" oriented. Hope to see you in Haifa! damn. for some reason I was convinced it was the same set of lect

Re: Strange cout behaviour

2003-01-09 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting guy keren, from the post of Thu, 09 Jan: > > On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Boulgakov Andrei wrote: > > > It doesn't matter __FILE__ : when I change it to "Hello, World" it doesn't > > print on speedy machine and print on slow machine! Something with time > > slice? > > someone said here something

Re: Cable-Modem Mini-Howto for Israeli Linux Users

2003-01-09 Thread Eliran
Amit Margalit wrote: Hi Eliran, Can you tell me what the 'VPN server' is? Probably something like matav.inter.net.il or something? I'll add this to the cable-modem mini-howto. Amit It doesn't relate to Matav neither any-other-cables-company, simply it is: pns.inter.net.il

Re: Cable-Modem Mini-Howto for Israeli Linux Users

2003-01-09 Thread Eliran
Alex Chudnovsky wrote: I'm using the default dialer that comes with Windows. As I've already said, all that Internet Zahav "dialer" does is to define a connection for the default Windows dialer. It's just some "run-once" program. I've tried anything... I read dozens of FAQs hundred of time

Re: Cable-Modem Mini-Howto for Israeli Linux Users

2003-01-09 Thread Alex Chudnovsky
On Thursday 09 January 2003 14:23, Eliran wrote: > Alex Chudnovsky wrote: > >>I'm using the default dialer that comes with Windows. > > > >As I've already said, all that Internet Zahav "dialer" does is to define a > >connection for the default Windows dialer. It's just some "run-once" > > program.

Stallman's speech

2003-01-09 Thread Nadav Har'El
I have just left Richard Stallman's lecture in IBM Haifa, and in my opinion is was a great lecture. He obviously repeated many of his old ideas that all us have heard before (but still it was nice hearing them from the man himself) but he talked on some points that I hadn't seen him writing about b

Re: IBM lecture(s) rant

2003-01-09 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > On Wed, Jan 08, 2003 at 06:18:26PM +0200, Ira Abramov wrote: > > Quoting Shlomi Fish, from the post of Wed, 08 Jan: > > > > > > Naturally, I was disappointed that Stallman did not show up, but still I > > > did not find it disappointed because I got to

OT: Sushi (was RE: IBM lecture(s) rant)

2003-01-09 Thread Arik Baratz
> -Original Message- > From: Shlomi Fish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Can you please not go to Sushi? Chinese food or Italian Food > or Pizza or > Nando's or Mizrahi or whatever will be much better for me. I > cannot think > of eating small servings of raw fish with a little rice. I hear

Re: IBM lecture(s) rant

2003-01-09 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Shlomi Fish wrote: > On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 08, 2003 at 06:18:26PM +0200, Ira Abramov wrote: > > > Quoting Shlomi Fish, from the post of Wed, 08 Jan: [snip] > Can you please not go to Sushi? Chinese food or Italian Food or Pizza or Chin

Re: IBM lecture(s) rant

2003-01-09 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Thu, Jan 09, 2003, Shlomi Fish wrote about "Re: IBM lecture(s) rant": > Can you please not go to Sushi? Chinese food or Italian Food or Pizza or > Nando's or Mizrahi or whatever will be much better for me. I cannot think And if Muli prefers Sushi over Italian/Nandos, isn't he entitled to sugges

Re: IBM lecture(s) rant

2003-01-09 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Nadav Har'El wrote: > On Thu, Jan 09, 2003, Shlomi Fish wrote about "Re: IBM lecture(s) rant": > > Can you please not go to Sushi? Chinese food or Italian Food or Pizza or > > Nando's or Mizrahi or whatever will be much better for me. I cannot think > > And if Muli prefers Sush

Re: IBM lecture(s) rant

2003-01-09 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote: > On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > > On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Jan 08, 2003 at 06:18:26PM +0200, Ira Abramov wrote: > > > > Quoting Shlomi Fish, from the post of Wed, 08 Jan: > > [snip] > > > Can you pleas

Another honorable(?) Linux-IL tradition (was: Re: IBM lecture(s)rant)

2003-01-09 Thread Omer Zak
I see that we (the Linux-IL participants) are being subjected to a yet another peculiar Linux-IL tradition: Each time someone suggests that we go to eat something, people start arguing which kinds of foods or restaurants to reject. Then there is a religious war which gets as obnoxious as the vi v

Re: OT: Sushi (was RE: IBM lecture(s) rant)

2003-01-09 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Arik Baratz, from the post of Thu, 09 Jan: > I'd like to offset the opinions that you have had by saying that Sushi > is delightfully tasety, and not at all disgusting. It is real food, > eaten by real people, many of which are in Japan. It is far from > poisonous, with the single exception

Re: OT: Sushi (was RE: IBM lecture(s) rant)

2003-01-09 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Ira Abramov wrote: > Quoting Arik Baratz, from the post of Thu, 09 Jan: > > I'd like to offset the opinions that you have had by saying that Sushi > > is delightfully tasety, and not at all disgusting. It is real food, > > eaten by real people, many of which are in Japan. It is

Re: Cable-Modem Mini-Howto for Israeli Linux Users

2003-01-09 Thread Eliran
Alex Chudnovsky wrote: Can you provide details of your Windows connection? Not username and password, but VPN server name? Is it PPTP or L2TP? Windows XP supports both, L2TP support in Linux is not so strong yet. VPN: pns.inter.net.il And why? What is their exact answer, "It's impossible" or

Re: IBM lecture(s) rant

2003-01-09 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Thu, Jan 09, 2003 at 06:20:06PM +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote: > On Thu, Jan 09, 2003, Shlomi Fish wrote about "Re: IBM lecture(s) rant": > > Can you please not go to Sushi? Chinese food or Italian Food or Pizza or > > Nando's or Mizrahi or whatever will be much better for me. I cannot think > > An

Re: IBM lecture(s) rant

2003-01-09 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > On Thu, Jan 09, 2003 at 06:20:06PM +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 09, 2003, Shlomi Fish wrote about "Re: IBM lecture(s) rant": > > > Can you please not go to Sushi? Chinese food or Italian Food or Pizza or > > > Nando's or Mizrahi or whateve

Re: IBM lecture(s) rant

2003-01-09 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Thu, Jan 09, 2003 at 07:30:29PM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote: > Do they serve other food there? If so I'll gladly come. (unless people > smoke there of course) They do, and people do smoke there. The number of completely non smoking restaurants in Haifa that I know of is far too small. In any ca

Re: IBM lecture(s) rant

2003-01-09 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
Shlomi Fish wrote: > We can easily go to Nando's instead. They serve only various variations of > Chicken and other entrees, but the food is very good. > > Do they serve other food there? If so I'll gladly come. (unless people > smoke there of course) No. I was not planing on going to this one

Re: Cable-Modem Mini-Howto for Israeli Linux Users

2003-01-09 Thread Alex Chudnovsky
On Thursday 09 January 2003 19:21, Eliran wrote: > Alex Chudnovsky wrote: > >Can you provide details of your Windows connection? Not username and > > password, but VPN server name? Is it PPTP or L2TP? Windows XP supports > > both, L2TP support in Linux is not so strong yet. > > VPN: pns.inter.net.i

Re: IBM lecture(s) rant

2003-01-09 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: > Shlomi Fish wrote: > > > We can easily go to Nando's instead. They serve only various variations of > > Chicken and other entrees, but the food is very good. > > > > Do they serve other food there? If so I'll gladly come. (unless people > > smoke

Fishy discussions

2003-01-09 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Shlomi Fish, from the post of Thu, 09 Jan: > > > > > We can easily go to Nando's instead. They serve only various variations of > > > Chicken and other entrees, but the food is very good. most restaurants (even japanese) which are not veggie or kosher-dairy serve "only" chicken and other t

Re: Cable-Modem Mini-Howto for Israeli Linux Users

2003-01-09 Thread Eliran
Alex Chudnovsky wrote: How doesn't it work? What happens if you run pptp pns.inter.net.il? What is your /etc/ppp/options? I checked the issue, and I DO SUCCEED to establish at least VPN connection. I can't establish PPP connection, as I haven't a username/password for Internet Zahav, so PPP au

Re: Stallman's speech

2003-01-09 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
"Nadav Har'El" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > track. Can the people who work in IBM and read this check whether the audio > of that lecture could be put online? We will ask. That's all I can promise. > these are "freedom-dereased software", not "value-added software". Nitpicking: he uses the ter

Re: Cable-Modem Mini-Howto for Israeli Linux Users

2003-01-09 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Eliran wrote: > Alex Chudnovsky wrote: > > >How doesn't it work? What happens if you run pptp pns.inter.net.il? What is > >your /etc/ppp/options? > >I checked the issue, and I DO SUCCEED to establish at least VPN connection. I > >can't establish PPP connection, as I haven't a u

Re: OT: Sushi (was RE: IBM lecture(s) rant)

2003-01-09 Thread Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader
Quoth Shlomi Fish: > Kudos to the pun. If there is cooked food, which is similar to something I > know, I'm all for it. I always like to taste new dishes. But Linux Dinners > are somewhere I'd rather stick to something I know would be tasty in > advance. The reason is that the point is the company

Stallman to speak on Monday, Jan. 13 at IBM

2003-01-09 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
For those of you who attended yesterday's GNU/Linux event and were disappointed that Stallman did not show up, I just saw on the event's website that he will be giving a lecture on Monday, Jan 13th, 1600-1800 at IBM in Petach Tikva. More details and RSVPs at: http://www-5.ibm.com/il/news/events/gn

A comment on GNU/Linux

2003-01-09 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
I would like to make a brief comment on the GNU/Linux issue, one of the things that get RMS all wound up so easily. I may disagree with RMS on a lot of things (not relevant to this posting), and one thing that I habitually do is referring to Linux as Linux [ducks!!!], but I think this is in fact

Re: Cable-Modem Mini-Howto for Israeli Linux Users

2003-01-09 Thread Amit Margalit
Hi, On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Eliran wrote: > After I connect, I can ping everything, but without watching any packets > moving around. (That's include Zahav's DNS servers). > Pinging pns.inter.net.il returns answer (packets.) though. > > I guess the main problem is on the routing table. Do you have a

Re: OT: Sushi (was RE: IBM lecture(s) rant)

2003-01-09 Thread boaz_mic
Hey! (What the hell is going on here?!) Is this the *REAL* MAV ? - I see no Zucchini banned below... . ;-) boaz. - Original Message - From: "Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Shlomi Fish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "My Own Private List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Ira

Re: IBM lecture(s) rant

2003-01-09 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Thu, Jan 09, 2003, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote about "Re: IBM lecture(s) rant": > I was not planing on going to this one, but if I did I could not even > go into a nando's (I'm allergic to chicken) It is not a place > for people who can't/won't eat chicken. Yes, Nandos is indeed not a very di

Re: IBM lecture(s) rant

2003-01-09 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
"Nadav Har'El" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yes, Nandos is indeed not a very diverse place. Chicken this, > chicken that. Just missing is Alcoholic chicken [1] :) Oh, but they do have "alcoholic chicken": they used to run a promotion (mivtsa) where you got a free beer (yeah, I managed to throw

Re: IBM lecture(s) rant

2003-01-09 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Ira Abramov, from the post of Thu, 09 Jan: > damn. for some reason I was convinced it was the same set of lectures in > two locations. now I'm sad I decided to go to TAU rather than the one in > Haifa... do send in notes and summeries (and anecdotes, and...) > > thanks :) WELL? what was