Re: the PAIN that is Adaptec

2006-06-07 Thread marc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gilboa Davara wrote: > Just a small addition: > What is the going price of a hot-spare, hot-plug, resize-supporting, > RAID6 capable SCSI RAID controller? > I doubt that you'll be able to find one for 400$; eBay included. An LSI MegaRAID 300-8X (8 po

Re: the PAIN that is Adaptec

2006-06-07 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Tue, 2006-06-06 at 21:06 +0300, Ira Abramov wrote: > Quoting Gilboa Davara, from the post of Tue, 06 Jun: > > > > I've switched controllers, mixed drive types (SCSI 68/80, IDE/SATA), > > disconnected IDE drivers by mistake (IDE doe not support hot-plug), > > killed the kernel, killed the md dri

Re: the PAIN that is Adaptec

2006-06-06 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Gilboa Davara, from the post of Tue, 06 Jun: > > I've switched controllers, mixed drive types (SCSI 68/80, IDE/SATA), > disconnected IDE drivers by mistake (IDE doe not support hot-plug), > killed the kernel, killed the md drivers... I've managed to screw it > all, you DO realize that thi

Re: the PAIN that is Adaptec

2006-06-06 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Tue, 2006-06-06 at 19:56 +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote: > On Mon, 2006-06-05 at 08:00 +0300, Marc A. Volovic wrote: > > Quoth Shachar Shemesh: > > > > > Marc A. Volovic wrote: > > > > 2. in case of drive failure, recovery process is a pain > > > > > > > Well, doing "sfdisk -l /dev/sda > partiti

Re: the PAIN that is Adaptec

2006-06-06 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Mon, 2006-06-05 at 08:00 +0300, Marc A. Volovic wrote: > Quoth Shachar Shemesh: > > > Marc A. Volovic wrote: > > > 2. in case of drive failure, recovery process is a pain > > > > > Well, doing "sfdisk -l /dev/sda > partitions" in advance, and then doing > > "sfdisk /dev/sdb < partitions" isn

Re: the PAIN that is Adaptec

2006-06-05 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Ira Abramov wrote: After having delved a little into your message, I have to say I stand by my previous statement. > umm, the ServeRAID drivers are on IBM's site, binary only. If you search > for drivers from the main page you get this: > > http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?ln

Re: the PAIN that is Adaptec

2006-06-05 Thread Ehud Karni
On Mon, 5 Jun 2006 08:20:17 +0300, Marc A. Volovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [snip] > > 1. LSI Logic - both SCSI controllers and SATA/SCSI Raid > controllers > 2. Mylex - RAID controllers > 3. Cough, sputter, wash mouth with carbolic - HP ICCS RAID > 4. ICP Vor

Re: the PAIN that is Adaptec

2006-06-05 Thread Marc A. Volovic
Quoth Shachar Shemesh: > Hmm. Ok. I cannot argue with *you* being unfond of it. To me it is a > simple matter of budget trade offs. Speaking of budget tradeoffs: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8820211099&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.

Re: the PAIN that is Adaptec

2006-06-05 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Shachar Shemesh, from the post of Sun, 04 Jun: > > Take note, amigos! If you buy an IBM server with an Adaptec ServerRAID > > onboard, you may find that even after initializing the mirror, your > > Linux will STILL see two LUNs! aic7xxx drivers are very stable with it, > > but they lack the

Re: the PAIN that is Adaptec

2006-06-05 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Marc A. Volovic, from the post of Mon, 05 Jun: > > > > So today I'm trying again. wish me luck If you want, although I'm an > > Atheist and I know it doesn't exist, and sometimes, that notion is a > > bummer... > > Note that this is exactly the situation I was descring in labour-intensive

Re: the PAIN that is Adaptec

2006-06-05 Thread Marc A. Volovic
Quoth Ira Abramov: [snip] > resizing MD partitions, which I did, and it reset again on X and no grub > on reboot, at which point I was too tired and left it. > > So today I'm trying again. wish me luck If you want, although I'm an > Atheist and I know it doesn't exist, and sometimes, that notion

Re: the PAIN that is Adaptec

2006-06-04 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Marc A. Volovic wrote: > Quoth Lionel Elie Mamane: > > 1. Am very unfond of doing raid ops on main processor. > Hmm. Ok. I cannot argue with *you* being unfond of it. To me it is a simple matter of budget trade offs. > 2. in case of drive failure, recovery process is a pain > Well, doing "

Re: the PAIN that is Adaptec

2006-06-04 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Ariel Biener, from the post of Sun, 04 Jun: > On Sunday 04 June 2006 21:37, Ira Abramov wrote: > > On a separate issue, the machine crashed when I let Anaconda boot into > > the Graphic install mode, so I had to do a text install. But that blew > > up when I booted into the OS because it de

Re: the PAIN that is Adaptec

2006-06-04 Thread Marc A. Volovic
Quoth Shachar Shemesh: > Marc A. Volovic wrote: > > 2. in case of drive failure, recovery process is a pain > > > Well, doing "sfdisk -l /dev/sda > partitions" in advance, and then doing > "sfdisk /dev/sdb < partitions" isn't all that hard, really. Which - especially in the case of complex rai

Re: the PAIN that is Adaptec

2006-06-04 Thread Marc A. Volovic
Quoth Lionel Elie Mamane: > On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 10:19:12PM +0300, Marc A. Volovic wrote: > > No - do NOT use MD for anything except kiddie-games. > Care to elaborate? I actually *prefer* to use the Linux Software RAID 1. Am very unfond of doing raid ops on main processor. 2. in case of drive

Re: the PAIN that is Adaptec

2006-06-04 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 10:19:12PM +0300, Marc A. Volovic wrote: > Quoth Ira Abramov: >> I got into a fight this week with an Adaptec onboard RAID in an IBM >> x346 >> Is it worth all the trouble or should I stick to Linux' own MDadm? > No - do NOT use MD for anything except kiddie-games. Care

Re: the PAIN that is Adaptec

2006-06-04 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 09:37:38PM +0300, Ira Abramov wrote: > I got into a fight this week with an Adaptec onboard RAID in an IBM > x346 server. > Is it worth all the trouble or should I stick to Linux' own MDadm? I > think in this case I just might as well. I may lose the ability to > HotSwap i

Re: the PAIN that is Adaptec

2006-06-04 Thread Diego Iastrubni
Marc A. Volovic wrote: On a separate issue, the machine crashed when I let Anaconda boot into Boot single, switch to initlevel 3, rest. What? Fedora sux...? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the wor

Re: the PAIN that is Adaptec

2006-06-04 Thread Ariel Biener
On Sunday 04 June 2006 21:37, Ira Abramov wrote: > On a separate issue, the machine crashed when I let Anaconda boot into > the Graphic install mode, so I had to do a text install. But that blew > up when I booted into the OS because it defaulted to Runlevel 5 (the > text mode installation does not

Re: the PAIN that is Adaptec

2006-06-04 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Ira Abramov wrote: > Take note, amigos! If you buy an IBM server with an Adaptec ServerRAID > onboard, you may find that even after initializing the mirror, your > Linux will STILL see two LUNs! aic7xxx drivers are very stable with it, > but they lack the ability to work with the RAID. to do that

Re: the PAIN that is Adaptec

2006-06-04 Thread Marc A. Volovic
Quoth Ira Abramov: > I got into a fight this week with an Adaptec onboard RAID in an IBM x346 Serves you right. Use LSI Logic. > Is it worth all the trouble or should I stick to Linux' own MDadm? I No - do NOT use MD for anything except kiddie-games. If you're using SATA - buy LSI SATA 150-6 o

Re: the PAIN that is Adaptec

2006-06-04 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Ira Abramov wrote: > I got into a fight this week with an Adaptec onboard RAID in an IBM x346 > server. See if http://israblog.nana.co.il/blogread.asp?blog=35850&blogcode=1367360 is any help to you. Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting ltd. Have you backed up today'

the PAIN that is Adaptec

2006-06-04 Thread Ira Abramov
I got into a fight this week with an Adaptec onboard RAID in an IBM x346 server. For the last 3 years, Adaptec have been changing their approach to Free Software. The company that released the first enterprise-certified SCSI drivers and rewrote the SCSI layer in the kernel has started making binary